HELP- REVi=gear grind according to dealership
 

whats up,
so yea, i installed a REVi system a few months back and had been running fine, no problems. The check engine light turned on almost as soon as i installed it, i checked it out and everything was ok, i figured the MAF sensor was just getting used to the new intake. I went to the dealership for a flash upgrade and asked the question, they said the same thing, so i did not worry about it. About 4 months later, my 2nd gear started grinding, first when downshifting from third, then anytime i tried to put it in with rpms below 5k :eek: . I stopped using second gear unless necessary until i brought it in to the dealership to fix a few other problems. They called me today and told me the reason my second gear was grinding was because of the intake and the change in MAF. He said some bs and said some difficult terms to try and convince me, i couldnt really argue because i was driving so we said we would talk later. Im not really buying it. He said i should put the stock system back in and it should fix it, but i dont see how it can be related at all. They are already plannin on charging me about $50 for "figuring out" what the problem was, but i doubt it was that at all. Does anyone have any input, has this happend to anyone?. And if so how does it happen?. Is there anyway i can argue with facts against this and actually get them to fix the problem without bringing the REVi into it. Thanks

Total lies.

I don't see how they can claim an intake has anything to do with the gear box, the two are a good 4 feet apart and not touching!

A correctly installed REVi does nothing to the MAF.

Take it to another dealer, this should be a warranty issue, these liars are nothing but BS!

Are you still getting a CEL?

When you checked it out, did u check the condition of the MAF(oily, dusty)? U installed the screen, right?

If it was a problem with airflow, or the car reading airflow with the MAF, (assuming that the MAF is throwing a cel, and not some other part of your car that just by chance went out at the same time, i would get that checked tho if it is still throwing a CEL), then the car would have idle issues or be stalling, not grinding a gear!

I have had the REVi intake installed for a long time now, I bought mine during second production run, and I have not had problems with the gear box. I am not sure how the service dept. figures they can blame a gear box problem on an intake, I would press the issue a little more, and tell them that you are not buying their line of crap.

One post is usually enough...

Good luck with your problem. Go to another dealer. Oh, I don't know, maybe they see the REVi and are just trying to get out of a warranty cost -- because they can?

This is the best I've heard in a long time.............I'd like to see their justification on this one :D

I love that fake diagnosis charge. I can understand when they do find the problem but you don't want them fix it, want to fix it yourself, or want to take it somewhere else. I hate it when they don't find the problem, so they make something up just so they can say that the diagnosis was done. I had problems with my car intermittently stalling. Nissan said the idle was too high which that was causing the problem. I called B.S. but I still go hit with a $75 diagnosis fee. The real problem was that my MAF connector was dirty.


Your intake has nothing to do with your second gear syncro.

thanks guys. Yea i kinda knew they were BS ing, but i couldnt really prove or argue with him because i dont really know alot about this. Im going to go talk to him. Can anyone give me something to tell him or argue against, so that he think that i know what im talking about???. What should i tell him to disprove him. Thanksss

Just say what I said,

btw, dont double post.

Two different things. Intake part of fuels system. Gears part of transmission.

No correlation, seperate entities. Work independently of each other.

I bought new Dunlap tires, now my car keeps stalling, but some times it goes fast. Therefore, the problem is the tires ( they are not stock Bridgestones). Come on get real this makes no sense. Just like their BS.

Wow. What some dealers will say and/or do.

Mine grinds second occasionally, at high rpm's up and downshifting. I had a 626 that had the same problem with 3rd. The synchronizer went out at about 90,000 miles. I'm trying to get them to work on the 8. They are resisting but I am not going to be satisfied until it is fixed.

watup guys, so yea i talked to the dealership's service representative, and tried telling him what u guys told me. That how could the intake have anything to do with it, that the MAF was barely affected, hp gains were minimal, and that even then this had nothing to do with the gearbox, and what was wrong with the car was the syncrhonizer.

Well, he gave me this explanation that the gear was not griding, and that what i was experiencing was a spark knock. He said the intake was making the fuel run richer and this was the cause of the knock. He said i should replace the stick intake and use 93 octance fuel (i use 87), and that it should go away.

Are these guys right?, could this actually be true? And if so are these really ways i can fix it. Or what else can i do. But yea, i really dont see myself taking my REVi off :p

This is total BS. The intake actually makes the car run leaner, not richer. I'm quite sure you can tell the difference between engine knock (spark knock? Is this guy serious?) and only 2nd gear grinding. If the engine was knocking it would knock in every gear, not just second. These clowns have no clue what they are doing and can't possibly help you. Send in a report to Mazda corporate about this dealer and go find another dealer.

Tell me what the dealership name is and what the service managers name is. I want to go to Sevenstock this weekend and tell Mazda in person just how dumb one of their dealership employees is and I want to do it in front of a couple of thousand people.

not a bad idea RG. This is one of the biggest loads of crap that I have heard coming out of a Mazda dealer. It is unfortunate that the dealerships out there are treating their customers this way.

Take you service tech for a drive, show them what gear grind is, and ask them how the hell they call that knocking.

Ask for the diagnosis in writing on dealer letterhead. Make them state in writing all this crap...so then when they refuse to fix it you can sue the crap out of them. I dont care if they bring in all the engineers in Japan...because not a single one is going to agree that adding more air is making the care run richer or that the intake somehow affects the tranny

Rotarygod, If you could take video clip of the asking of the stupid question at sevenstock, I am sure we would all like to see it ;-)

u guys think i should go trough all that, or just go to another dealership. I have had problems with this dealership before, and i dont feel like arguing again. There must be at least one decent dealership in the chicagoland area, dont u guys think?

go somewhere else first, but hell, just for shits and giggles, id get it in writing and show it to the other dealership so they know how retarded those guys are.

I would definately get it in writing from them, so you can send it to corporate after the other dealer fixes the actual problem and they can get their peepee's slapped for being morons and trying to get out of warranty work.

To: Veilsidev1
Re: Warranty Claims

Dear Mr. Veilsidev1:

I have been informed that you are seeking warranty claims on what you believe to be a transmission problem, after installing the Racing Beat "REVi" intake manifold. While I sympathize with your situation, I feel I must spell out which portions of the warranty will be voided by this modification.

The problem is, you're not taking into account the massive surge of raw, unbridled horsepower unleashed by your new intake. That is what's behind your broken transmission. You may wish to call Jerico transmissions, and see if they have a replacement that is strong enough to suit your needs; but at any rate the factory transmission warranty must be considered null and void. The same goes for your engine, clutch, driveshaft, differential, and U-joints. Also keep in mind that increased speeds cause increased stress on your brakes (voiding their warranty), and the increased heat of combustion voids your A/C warranty as well. High speeds have also been known to stress out weatherstripping, glass, power steering systems, and even upholstery (due to the increased lateral stress applied by the driver's gluetous), so none of those can be covered either. And of course, paint is more quickly eroded and degraded at high speed impact with road contaminants, so that warranty will be void as well.

However, please note that your power window motor warranties shall remain intact, and we will happily repair any claims you may have in this regard.




Sincerely,

Your Dealership

it only grinds everytime you put it in 2nd BELOW 5k rpms ???

RG you are the man.

Hahaha, we wish.

was that stupid nonsense really their reply?
that is the worst nonsense i have ever heard in my life.
wtf, "massive Hp gain". you got to be joking. one intake destroyes all. wtf is wrong with them?