Help!! Advice on buying a Turbo kit
03-24-2008, 10:30 PM
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Help!! Advice on buying a Turbo kit
Hello All,
New to the site and I need some help. I got my '04 8 about a year ago and I've done a few minor things to it like a GReddy SP2 cat-back exhaust and an AEM intake.
My question is which turbo kit would you guys reccomend? I drive the car every day and I would like to get it installed in a weekend if possible. I've been looking at the GReddy kits.
Where could I get it the cheapest?
Are they hard to install?
Do they need some kind of tuning after installation?
Is this something I can do myself or should I have someone do it?
Again I am new to this whole thing. I have always just driven cars to get where I want to go but after getting this car I realized that I want to have fun while driving and why not go faster for more fun.
Any help would be awesome.
Thanks,
Chris
New to the site and I need some help. I got my '04 8 about a year ago and I've done a few minor things to it like a GReddy SP2 cat-back exhaust and an AEM intake.
My question is which turbo kit would you guys reccomend? I drive the car every day and I would like to get it installed in a weekend if possible. I've been looking at the GReddy kits.
Where could I get it the cheapest?
Are they hard to install?
Do they need some kind of tuning after installation?
Is this something I can do myself or should I have someone do it?
Again I am new to this whole thing. I have always just driven cars to get where I want to go but after getting this car I realized that I want to have fun while driving and why not go faster for more fun.
Any help would be awesome.
Thanks,
Chris
03-24-2008, 10:55 PM
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If you feel like jumping into the darkside...it will not be a cheap endeavor....as far as kits go, I decided to go with the Esmeril kit with the interceptor-x upgrade, yes it is recommended to get dyno tuning, however with the maps Chris provides you dont HAVE to but why wouldn't you.
03-25-2008, 08:15 AM
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The thing I've always viewed as most important is a kit that spools up quickly and isn't laggy, but I've never owned a turbocharged car, hoping to soon though....
The kit that looks the best on the dyno I think is the Greddy kit w/ the MazdaManiac upgrade.
The kit that looks the best on the dyno I think is the Greddy kit w/ the MazdaManiac upgrade.
03-25-2008, 09:35 PM
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If you feel like jumping into the darkside...it will not be a cheap endeavor....as far as kits go, I decided to go with the Esmeril kit with the interceptor-x upgrade, yes it is recommended to get dyno tuning, however with the maps Chris provides you dont HAVE to but why wouldn't you.
03-27-2008, 03:34 PM
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03-27-2008, 03:39 PM
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https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=132628
supercharger is nice for drifting purposes due to the linear power increase
i think mazsports is good for daily driving in helping keep mpg close to stock at low rpms
mm greddy is awsome for power in the low range . (and possibly better for drag and short acceleration?)
supercharger is nice for drifting purposes due to the linear power increase
i think mazsports is good for daily driving in helping keep mpg close to stock at low rpms
mm greddy is awsome for power in the low range . (and possibly better for drag and short acceleration?)
03-27-2008, 03:48 PM
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Be warned that having a FI RX-8 isn't all fun and games. You really need to keep an eye on things, or your engine will be blown up in no time flat.
For example, just recently I added T fitting into my boost only line from the turbo. I removed the passenger side wheel to make sure I was getting the turbo side and not the wastegate side of the vacuum line. I use zip ties to secure the vacuum hose, and sure enough, the zip ties ate into the silicone hose (This isn't the cheap stuff either). A few more weeks or months without checking up on it might have resulted with the hose coming off the turbo, and the wastegate not getting signal = dead engine.
Here's a pic .. I pulled the vacuum hose off, it wasn't ripped in half earlier, but you can see how much the hose was cracked.
For example, just recently I added T fitting into my boost only line from the turbo. I removed the passenger side wheel to make sure I was getting the turbo side and not the wastegate side of the vacuum line. I use zip ties to secure the vacuum hose, and sure enough, the zip ties ate into the silicone hose (This isn't the cheap stuff either). A few more weeks or months without checking up on it might have resulted with the hose coming off the turbo, and the wastegate not getting signal = dead engine.
Here's a pic .. I pulled the vacuum hose off, it wasn't ripped in half earlier, but you can see how much the hose was cracked.
03-27-2008, 03:49 PM
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Be warned that having a FI RX-8 isn't all fun and games. You really need to keep an eye on things, or your engine will be blown up in no time flat.
For example, just recently I added T fitting into my boost only line from the turbo. I removed the passenger side wheel to make sure I was getting the turbo side and not the wastegate side of the vacuum line. I use zip ties to secure the vacuum hose, and sure enough, the zip ties ate into the silicone hose (This isn't the cheap stuff either). A few more weeks or months without checking up on it might have resulted with the hose coming off the turbo, and the wastegate not getting signal = dead engine.
Here's a pic .. I pulled the vacuum hose off, it wasn't ripped in half earlier, but you can see how much the hose was cracked.
For example, just recently I added T fitting into my boost only line from the turbo. I removed the passenger side wheel to make sure I was getting the turbo side and not the wastegate side of the vacuum line. I use zip ties to secure the vacuum hose, and sure enough, the zip ties ate into the silicone hose (This isn't the cheap stuff either). A few more weeks or months without checking up on it might have resulted with the hose coming off the turbo, and the wastegate not getting signal = dead engine.
Here's a pic .. I pulled the vacuum hose off, it wasn't ripped in half earlier, but you can see how much the hose was cracked.
03-27-2008, 04:47 PM
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putting a turbo on the 8 requires a lot of research. i am reading two 300 page books on tuning and the process and upkeep of turbo'ing a car.
03-27-2008, 05:52 PM
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^^^ yup, it's not just a 'get it and forget it' type of mod.
Ask yourself the following question:
- how much am I willing to spend?
- will I have the discipline to check the car from time to time?
- do I know enough about cars to properly monitor readouts (boost , AFR, etc)
- What are my goals for HP? (Max hp, track car, etc)
Ask yourself the following question:
- how much am I willing to spend?
- will I have the discipline to check the car from time to time?
- do I know enough about cars to properly monitor readouts (boost , AFR, etc)
- What are my goals for HP? (Max hp, track car, etc)
03-27-2008, 09:23 PM
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^^^ yup, it's not just a 'get it and forget it' type of mod.
Ask yourself the following question:
- how much am I willing to spend?
- will I have the discipline to check the car from time to time?
- do I know enough about cars to properly monitor readouts (boost , AFR, etc)
- What are my goals for HP? (Max hp, track car, etc)
Ask yourself the following question:
- how much am I willing to spend?
- will I have the discipline to check the car from time to time?
- do I know enough about cars to properly monitor readouts (boost , AFR, etc)
- What are my goals for HP? (Max hp, track car, etc)
Here is the thing. I am kinda new to the whole F/I thing.
-I was looking to do my homework while I saved enough money for what I find.
-I will definatly have the discipline to check it. I would proly spend more time doing that than anything else.
-I think I know enough about cars to properly maintain a turbo 8.
- I'm looking for more like a hobby. I'm not too interested in going to the track or racing it. I just want to get up fast and enjoy it. Nothing too special.
All that being said Which one in you guys opinion would be a reasonable comprimise between all these factors - Price, Ease of maintenance, Need for more upgrades. I guess what I really would like to know is can I just buy the Greddy kit and be good (happy with the results and safe for the car)?
Bottom line is this crap is addicting. and these little bolt ons that I am buying doesn't cut it.
Thanks for listening and all the input. You guys are awesome!!!
03-27-2008, 09:40 PM
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from the sound of it, the most information, the widest availability, and the most active support and surprisingly the cheapest is the MM + greddy. start saving, to about 6k, u'll need the AP too.
03-28-2008, 03:14 AM
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Be warned that having a FI RX-8 isn't all fun and games. You really need to keep an eye on things, or your engine will be blown up in no time flat.
For example, just recently I added T fitting into my boost only line from the turbo. I removed the passenger side wheel to make sure I was getting the turbo side and not the wastegate side of the vacuum line. I use zip ties to secure the vacuum hose, and sure enough, the zip ties ate into the silicone hose (This isn't the cheap stuff either). A few more weeks or months without checking up on it might have resulted with the hose coming off the turbo, and the wastegate not getting signal = dead engine.
Here's a pic .. I pulled the vacuum hose off, it wasn't ripped in half earlier, but you can see how much the hose was cracked.
For example, just recently I added T fitting into my boost only line from the turbo. I removed the passenger side wheel to make sure I was getting the turbo side and not the wastegate side of the vacuum line. I use zip ties to secure the vacuum hose, and sure enough, the zip ties ate into the silicone hose (This isn't the cheap stuff either). A few more weeks or months without checking up on it might have resulted with the hose coming off the turbo, and the wastegate not getting signal = dead engine.
Here's a pic .. I pulled the vacuum hose off, it wasn't ripped in half earlier, but you can see how much the hose was cracked.
very wow.
sorry.
beers
03-28-2008, 06:23 AM
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Look at Speed force racing except don't buy their ECU get the Interceptor-X instead most important make sure you find a good shop who knows something about Rotary engines and turbo setups.
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Wouldn't want to get complacent.
03-28-2008, 12:21 PM
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I'm in a similar situation as the original poster, but through searching this site and reading the input from the posters of said threads, I am going to go in the way of MM's Greddy Upgrade. The guy knows his stuff and post on here regularly.
03-28-2008, 12:44 PM
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I've been talking a bit with MM about having a turbo install done. Been doing a spreadsheet starting to track everything and the cliffnotes of what I've got so far:
compression chk: ?
Greddy+ Kit 5800
MM's Install 1100
AEM UEGO AFR 200
AEM BST GAUGE+CNTRLR 300
HKS SSQ BOV 220
Greddy Catch can 100
Sohn oil metering adapter 100
TOTAL: $7,820.00
optionals: turbotimer, greddy oilpan
compression chk: ?
Greddy+ Kit 5800
MM's Install 1100
AEM UEGO AFR 200
AEM BST GAUGE+CNTRLR 300
HKS SSQ BOV 220
Greddy Catch can 100
Sohn oil metering adapter 100
TOTAL: $7,820.00
optionals: turbotimer, greddy oilpan
03-28-2008, 12:56 PM
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Also, I have read about concerns with emissions, and MM stated that the Greddy E-Manage Ultimate can be configured to pass emissions, which I will need as well.
03-28-2008, 08:22 PM
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Your right..
My bad everyone...
The Syncronic Bov I feel is a better design and is better than the Hks. One of my friends that has a WRX, had the Hks and then switched to the Synchronic. It is a night and day diffrence for the better. When I have enough cash, I'm replacing the Greddy Type RS Bov.
http://www.synapseengineering.com/?g...FQFbiAodCDdMLw
My bad everyone...
The Syncronic Bov I feel is a better design and is better than the Hks. One of my friends that has a WRX, had the Hks and then switched to the Synchronic. It is a night and day diffrence for the better. When I have enough cash, I'm replacing the Greddy Type RS Bov.
http://www.synapseengineering.com/?g...FQFbiAodCDdMLw
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03-29-2008, 02:06 AM
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Kane and his friend, Chris, just got some decent prices and VERY quick shipping.
