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kevinD1226 06-09-2009 10:16 PM

final drive question
 
im reading alot about the final drives in the rx8s and a few people have swapped over to the 4.777 final drive and they love it but is this a direct bolt on or do u have to have the differential modified to make it fit? will it be worth the cost? ive searched and have gotten back mixed results but i wasnt sure how old the thread was or if theres been any new changes on this.. any help is appreciated, i did use the search button but still am a bit confused on this:banghead:

rx8thunder 06-09-2009 10:38 PM

Going with 4.777 diff, you need to have a skilled transmission guy open up the back axel and replace it. In so doing it will fit just like it does on the 09's but will require some shimming to make sure it's perfectly secured and lined up.

It's a great mod, well worth the money.

kevinD1226 06-09-2009 10:44 PM

thanks i appreciate the help and the non bashing for not beeing able to do a more thorough search

Zelse 06-12-2009 01:34 AM

About to make a thread about it.. I just got mine. Great power increase I noticed, still getting used to the whole shifting much earlier..but when I let off the gas I notice a REALLY weird sound. I'll post about it now, but if anyone knows the answer that'll help..thanks.

padilla08 06-18-2009 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by rx8thunder (Post 3061998)
Going with 4.777 diff, you need to have a skilled transmission guy open up the back axel and replace it. In so doing it will fit just like it does on the 09's but will require some shimming to make sure it's perfectly secured and lined up.

It's a great mod, well worth the money.

i heard that after installation, you'd have to calibrate some stuff with the speedometer. and you'd need a kit to do so. what do you need to know about that? or was that BS? haha! thanks

Zeon 06-18-2009 12:24 PM

Keep in mind that if you are planning on ever going FI you probably want to reconsider this mod. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure there are some FI guys out there looking for longer gears instead of shorter ones given by this final drive ratio.

Basically, while you may like the extra low-end power now, if you later have a significant increase in power, this mod may not be very good for you.

rx8thunder 06-18-2009 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by padilla08 (Post 3075408)
i heard that after installation, you'd have to calibrate some stuff with the speedometer. and you'd need a kit to do so. what do you need to know about that? or was that BS? haha! thanks

Speedo is NOT affected!

alan23 06-18-2009 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by padilla08 (Post 3075408)
i heard that after installation, you'd have to calibrate some stuff with the speedometer. and you'd need a kit to do so. what do you need to know about that? or was that BS? haha! thanks

For RX8, I think the speed sensor is not taken off the engine revolution, so the FD has no impact on the speedometer. My rpm increased compared to the same speed before and after my FD mod.

Cheers
Alan

ChrisRX8PR 06-18-2009 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Zeon (Post 3075425)
Keep in mind that if you are planning on ever going FI you probably want to reconsider this mod. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure there are some FI guys out there looking for longer gears instead of shorter ones given by this final drive ratio.

Basically, while you may like the extra low-end power now, if you later have a significant increase in power, this mod may not be very good for you.

I am actually debating on going 4.10 or 3.90...the way it is now...its crazy.... :P

Chris

rx8thunder 06-18-2009 12:53 PM

If you go FI, just sell 4.77.

philipchan 06-18-2009 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by rx8thunder (Post 3061998)
Going with 4.777 diff, you need to have a skilled transmission guy open up the back axel and replace it. In so doing it will fit just like it does on the 09's but will require some shimming to make sure it's perfectly secured and lined up.

It's a great mod, well worth the money.

As far as I know is there are 2 ways to do the 4.77 diff
one is as you said, that's changing the gears in the diff, 2 rings
you really need skills to do that, if you dont do it right, you will fuck up the diff

the second way is replace the whole diff, that's easy, but costly tho, over $1000 for the whole diff where the rings for only $300 or so:eek:

04RX8man 06-18-2009 01:13 PM

^agreed

rx8thunder 06-18-2009 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by philipchan (Post 3075533)
As far as I know is there are 2 ways to do the 4.77 diff
one is as you said, that's changing the gears in the diff, 2 rings
you really need skills to do that, if you dont do it right, you will fuck up the diff

the second way is replace the whole diff, that's easy, but costly tho, over $1000 for the whole diff where the rings for only $300 or so:eek:

I got an expert to switch the internal gearing with new shims for $150. A general mechanic took out the diff unit and put back in for $100. The gear itself should cost you no more than $600

philipchan 06-18-2009 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by rx8thunder (Post 3075557)
I got an expert to switch the internal gearing with new shims for $150. A general mechanic took out the diff unit and put back in for $100. The gear itself should cost you no more than $600

That's a good deal, only charge you for $150 labor for internal gear !!

Zeon 06-19-2009 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by ChrisRX8PR (Post 3075467)
I am actually debating on going 4.10 or 3.90...the way it is now...its crazy.... :P

Chris

I can't imagine your setup... Do you have a custom tranny yet? I believe that Fluid was saying he was going with a 3.9 for his sometime in the future.

padilla08 06-21-2009 09:06 AM

http://www.ricks2k.com/products/yellowbox.php

speedo IS affected. not too much, though. if you want more accurate speeds, though, check this out. not bad.

rx8thunder 06-21-2009 10:15 AM

^ Don't know what you are talking about. It is NOT affected on an RX8

shazy 06-21-2009 01:14 PM

I hope you know it's not affected....

edit: Woops had this page opened for 3 hours...

staticlag 06-21-2009 03:11 PM

Speedometer isn't affected. Pretty sure that the speed reading is taken off the wheel axles. Means that only wheel or tire changes would affect the speed ometer.

rx8thunder 06-21-2009 03:44 PM

^ Correct

padilla08 06-22-2009 09:30 AM

"This 1-2 percent error can be magnified even further when you install aftermarket wheels and tires or change the rear GEAR SET." that's in the second paragraph of the link i sent.

http://www.ricks2k.com/products/yellowbox.php

also, check out this thread. they mention the yellow box constantly.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/4-778-final-drive-%24296-77054/


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