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veilsidev1 10-13-2004 07:51 PM

Cz1.1 vs light flywheel vs Aluminum pulley set
 
I have heard many different arguments of all of these. Bottom line, what gives you more hp for the money, is there any combination of the two that work better. I porbably have enough to buy one, maybe two of these mods, help me pick the right one.

truemagellen 10-13-2004 07:57 PM

definitely flywheel...
plus you'll get smoother shifting with it

with the CZ if you tweak it well it could be close but it will take a lot of work

really you should just get all three and don't look at the price :)

Magic8 10-13-2004 07:59 PM

well tuned CZ with a flywheel. oooooh yeeaaaahhh :D :D :D

Icemastr 10-13-2004 08:06 PM

I would go ECU, then pulleys, then lightweight flywheel, just because installing a flywheel is a big pain if you haven't removed and reinstalled a transmission before, and it is really expensive to have done by someone else, so that 500$ flywheel just became a $900 mod if you don't do the work yourself, plus if you want to do the clutch at the same time, $1400! But if you can install it yourself, I would go with the flywheel first.

rudy8 10-13-2004 10:17 PM

good advice from icemastr...i have all three but ECU and pulleys cheapest labor...
flywheel by far the best upgrade....although i have not "tuned" my chip which seems to be important.

socalightning 10-14-2004 01:27 AM

I think the light flywheel is the most expensive to install (if dealer installed) BUT gives the most reliable increase in acceleration right out of the box. ...No excuses, no tuning, no voiding engine warranty.

MadDog 10-14-2004 01:48 PM

Warranty issues are why I chose the flywheel over CZ - especially since I think folks are still frying their coils sometimes. The CZ seems to give inconsistent results if you don't tweak it - and I don't feel comfortable tweaking the brain of a car that is smarter than I am! :)

I chose the MS flywheel, again, for warranty considerations. But gents, I wish I had chosen the lightest one available! I love the MS version, but I drool thinking about how much improvement there would be with the ACT pro-lite!

Magic8 10-14-2004 02:01 PM

No burnt coils here :D. I think the CZ GB #2 units solved that problem.

I really want the RB flywheel. Anyone ever change out their own flywheel? Is it hard to do? It's definitely tedious but is it technically difficult?

rlfletch 10-14-2004 02:23 PM

Having experienced both the CZ and the Mazdaspeed flywheel seperately I side with the flywheel all the way. No warranty issues, better driveability and no fooling with tuning. Add up all your time and extra money for cables etc, and that CZ starts to look expensive too.

Snoochie 10-14-2004 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Magic8
I really want the RB flywheel. Anyone ever change out their own flywheel? Is it hard to do? It's definitely tedious but is it technically difficult?

I remember someone posting a DIY on it a while ago i couldn't find it though it's probably been move.

r0tor 10-14-2004 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by socalightning
I think the light flywheel is the most expensive to install (if dealer installed) BUT gives the most reliable increase in acceleration right out of the box.

all 0-5 hp of acceleration depending on which gear your in...

truemagellen 10-14-2004 06:39 PM

I thought it was 10-15hp increase and is a little more pronounced low end

plus shifting is smoother and better gas mileage

r0tor 10-14-2004 06:42 PM

see this thread... https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/light-weight-flywheel-facts-%7E-weight-moment-inertia-q-36105/

Todd Green 10-14-2004 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by socalightning
No excuses, no tuning, no voiding engine warranty.

eh? i thought flywheel would toss your warranty out the window? enlighten me

Kari 10-14-2004 08:06 PM

If the Mazdaspeed flywheel is installed by a dealer I don't see any reason it would void the warranty. The flywheel install is tedious, especially if you have never removed a transmission from a car before. Even for someone who has spent some time cranking on their car the flywheel install is not for the faint of heart. Without having the right tools (air compressor, impact gun, full set of sockets, u-joints, and extensions) it will end up being much more costly as well.

Todd Green 10-14-2004 08:51 PM

ahhhhh so the MAZDASPEED flywheel installed by the dealer is the only way to keep warranty?

StealthTL 10-14-2004 09:28 PM

I agree with Kari....
 
I agree, flywheel is no shade-tree install, you better know your way around.

Not just basic tools, it helps to have a 'dummy' input shaft to set it up before you torque it down......or you could do it the hard (and expensive) way.

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