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carbonRX8 04-23-2005 12:08 AM

Bolt between manifold and cat busted; Should I replace with High Flow Cat?
 
I was removing the stock midpipe/cat at the manifold tonight (dropping tranny for RB flywheel, PP and HD clutch disc) and one of the bolts sheared off. grrr. :mad: It looks to me that the bolt head is spot welded, effectively makeing it a stud. I could try drilling the bastard out but I also could take this as an opportunity to replace with a high flow cat.

The new pressure plate and heavy duty clutch are intended to harmonize with my, as yet unordered, greddy turbo. So a better exhaust flow would fit the theme. Is this reasonable? The major problem is that I have a RB exhaust already installed. It necks down at the cat to match the cat pipe size. Wont I have to replace the RB cat back (which I really really like if only for the sound) to eliminate the neck-down? (yes I have read the posts on RB's opinion suggesting their exhaust is not suited for a turbo. My opinion on their opinion is "bull$#i+!")

If not, which HF cat would mate well with the RB catback and the future greddy turbo kit? (is there a turbo back out there?) No I do not want to delete the cat and pollute the air and possibly fail sniffer tests (in MD near DC. My other car has gotten the sniffer treatment dispite being a '97)

P.S. if anyone cares, the flywheel swap seems doable on jackstands. Dont attempt if you are closterphobic. :eek:

Fanman 04-23-2005 12:19 AM

Be careful. Rudy8 & I have had issues with the hi-flow cat unit & the Greddy turbo kit. We have had some backfire issues. In talking with Benny (Greddy) the kit/tuning was never designed for a high flow cat. In taking off his high flow cat Rudy8 got rid of quite a bit of his backfire. May have to lean out the mix a bit more.

Charles R. Hill 04-23-2005 01:00 AM

Carbon, I can tell you from firsthand experience that not only is the flywheel swap doable on jack stands but also with mere hand tools and a 3/4" breaker bar for the flywheel nut. I did my own swap, then drove to Atlanta with all the necessary tools in the trunk of my RX-8 and did a swap with rxeighter in the parking lot of Marietta8's own shop. Piece of cake.

CRH

rxeightr 04-23-2005 07:37 AM

Took about 5 hours -- and no extra parts left over! Thanks again Charles for leading the flywheel install.

I'd go with the high flow cat, unless the turbo is mere months away.

Razz1 04-23-2005 01:04 PM

Don't go with the high flow cat unless you instal one or two resonators.

It will be too loud for you.

carbonRX8 04-23-2005 09:32 PM

Thanks for the all the advice. It looks like the better idea is to repair the stock cat.

I would like to be able to use the stock maps that come with the emanage in the greddy turbo kit. I dont want to start tuning until much later (maybe after adding bigger injectors and a fuel pump). Sounds like the high flow cat would require immediate tuning that I am not prepared to do.

With luck, the car should be down off the jackstands tomorrow.

carbonRX8 04-23-2005 09:41 PM

Razz, how loud are we talking (just curious)? With the K&N intake and the RB exhaust at WOT the car already screams (a good scream in my opinion, like the battle cry of a samurai. Kurosawa should make a mazda commerial :rolleyes: )

Tho I am hoping that the turbo will make it quite a bit quieter as it interupts the direct path from the intake to the port and stops up the exhaust a bit.

TeamRX8 04-24-2005 01:16 AM

any welding shop can replace the bolt if you provide it, it's likely metric stainless steel

Razz1 04-24-2005 07:32 PM

Check out the RP high flow CAT sectionhttps://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/rotary-performance-super-cat-midpipe-54033/


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