You can have it back if you want ;)

That is because the PCM sets a soft 5500 RPM limit until the engine temp hits 165°F.

Actually, pending a further discussion with Ray, I might cobble together a "spec" copy to take with me to the dyno for people that are having a hard time on the dyno as a proof of concept thing.
It won't be for sale and it wont be pretty (it will have extra long leads and plug wires so that it needn't be completely installed to work), but it will give people an idea of what it does.

Who was that directed to? Because if it was me then you're misinformed. At only one point during the install was I lacking a proper tool (I had to borrow a wire crimper) unless they make a thin, magnetic, 10mm, swivel socket that could have saved an hour or so of searching for the 1 of 3 dropped nuts that got swallowed by the engine bay. That would have been helpful.

We followed the instructions to the letter specifically to give feedback to the community. To help the community as a whole. Which ends up helping BHR. Responding with a take like 'get better tools' seems a little asinine and a lot counter-productive. A good chunk of work done on these was to make it easy to install. Jon recommended a few workarounds before we really got to installing it but I was willing to waste our time trying to save others time in the future.

And again the install WAS simple. It just happened that on my car it was also a pain in the ass to get a larger set of coils and backing into the OEM area. It is crammed in there. People should expect that when they buy this and they should be able to get on a thread specifically discussing the impressions/results of installing this ignition set and be able to find out tips to work around it. Eventually by doing that the simple install turns into an easy install. Folks who have relocated their battery or have a different intake then the OEM/RB are going to have an easier time with this install.

Not on my car...I likely will be in my truck................

Damn..you come up with the sneakiest scenarios.....going to have to keep my eye on you :lol:

Ok. That makes sense though we had let it sit idle for a few minutes warming up while we listend for possible misfires. No gauges so I don't know the exact temp but it wasn't all the wayto the 'happy point' that the OEM gauge sits. We figured it was the PCM learning something.

It was perfectly fine after a few more minutes of idling and after the shutdown and then test drive 15 minutes or so afterwards so I wasn't concerned.

I'm so far down on the waitlist I can't even see light.. but I'm more then willing to be patient for a product that has Ray's customer service attitude behind it.

We will need to extend the proto harnesses out to about a foot and get a set of double-length plug wires.
I'll need an alligator clip on the chassis ground as well.

That's more like it...thinking outside of the box :)

Ok. I don't really see who it was directed at but with the random interjections that seem to flood every thread in here it's a little difficult to follow. It's not like you need a lot of tools for this install.

And I don't think a video is really necessary but some pics on your site or in this thread would be helpful. It really is simple. The difficulty is in the small things like getting those oem nuts back on the frame, working around the wires and plugs that have nothing to do with the install but clutter the area, and just getting the order of install.

The only part that a video might help out is removing the OEM plug connectors from the OEM coils. If you've never done it before (me) and don't have someone next to you that has (Jon) it's tricky to know exactly how to leverage the plugs to get them so they come off. We ended up undoing the nuts and removing the coils 1-by-1 because it was a little easier to unplug the coils. That and unclasping the battery wire and removing the flexible intake tubing in front of the throttle body were the only places we really deviated from the instructions.

It was a "universal thought" I was not directing it at anyone in particular. Just making a general observation. If I am going to be specific I will mention the persons name and :spank: them.

That's hillarious. I wonder how many people would be asking for dyno sheets if you had not made the claim of an 8 hp dyno proven power increase.

Same people who can only judge a car's "performance" by HP numbers.
I would be more interested if there was an increase in torque with a product.

So I pulled all of the wires and reconnected them. The car runs fine now. Just need to go about getting some updated maps for my specific setup from MM. Thanks for the help.

If there is a TQ increase; but not a HP increase I'll give you 1000000000000000 dollars....:banghead:

Never said there wasn't going to be... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I was simply saying I am more interested in proven torque increase than horsepower.
Why are some people here only to try and make themselves look better?

If you look back at my posts; I think it is pretty obvious that my ego is pretty low on the list of priorities.

That being said - there are some statements I just can't take at 0500 - the bold statement is just plain incorrect - as I was busting your chops about it a second ago....Torque and HP are functions of each other; torque measures force and HP measures work...a change in one will bring about an EXACT corresponding change in the other. So discarding HP for torque is kinda silly, and I was making a joke...I think of myself as a funny guy - despite evidence to the contrary.

Kane, your implying that my statement (which you bolded) is incorrect.
But my statement is saying that I (keyword is I) am more interested in torque improvement.
You are basically saying that I am incorrect on my opinion on what I would like to see. :Eyecrazy:
That's the same as failing an opinion test.
Is is wrong for someone to wish for larger torque gains?
Do we ALL have to go by HP numbers?

I don't feel that I should be bashed for thinking differently than most.
And I'm not here to start an argument with you or anyone.
But I will defend myself when I'm being called out on something that is my opinion.
You don't like how I look at things... fine. I'm not asking you to.

Horsepower = (Torque x RPM)/5252

No opinion or ego here. Just math.

Just stay out of this.
I've already helped to trash this thread by responding to this.
Sorry BHR.

:)
You got me there bud.
I may not be as knowledgeable as some members here (like Kane) when it comes to this, but that is what I was thinking in my own little brain.
Just didn't know the proper way to put it into words.

Sarcasm.... FTL it appears.

I promise to behave...sarcasm looks condescending in type sometimes I guess.

Ah well these BHR ignition impresion threads are gonna be kinda slow for a year or so anyway - then we start the long term testing.

I never let that slow me down!

Sarcasm ^^^

HA HA HA - awesomeness.

I just don't wanna meet one of these guys and get beat up in real life.

Wimp!:spank:

Sarcasm? ;) you would be one of the less likely ones to get beat up on here :)

and more thread trashing crap ;) from me :)