Aluminum Flywheel or Suspension (RB)
hi everyone.
I already have Racing Beat Catback. Love it! What my next mod should be. Racing Beat Aluminum Flywheel or Suspension Package Anyone with RB Suspension Package with pictures....? Do you really feel the difference? Any comment on Aluminum Flywheel from RB (HP wise)? [My 8 will be equipped only with Racing Beat products] Keep the excellent work RB team!!!!!!!! Waiting impatiently for the RB intake and Body Kit and more....... Thank you in advance SilverBullitt |
Silver Bullitt,
I have the RB suspension package and it is phenomenal. My steering is almost telepathic now. The input you give the car is where it will go. little bit stiffer ride, but not bad at all. No pictures, sorry. It really depends on what you value more. Increased acceleration (get the flywheel), or cornering (get the suspension package). I thought the body kit was out already ? I saw it at the RB open house. Pretty nice, very good fit & finish. |
If you want a smooth ride, keep it stock.
Otherwise it's a little bumpy with the RB suspension, but much better than all the other cars I've been in with competitors suspension, |
you mean this bodykit? somehow they managed to make the RX-8 look less agressive and more like an 80s honda...I agree that RB has GREAT products..but they should stick to performance and stay away from styling IMHO
http://www.racingbeat.com/RX8_kit/RX8%20Kit.1.jpg |
My opinion, you should go with Suspension Kit first. Flywheels isn't all that, I mean, you rev a lot faster, but you also lose a lot of torque. Unless you drive like a race car driver all the time, its going to get annoying having to always rev high and shift fast just to keep the RPM going.
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Originally Posted by Sociopath
My opinion, you should go with Suspension Kit first. Flywheels isn't all that, I mean, you rev a lot faster, but you also lose a lot of torque. Unless you drive like a race car driver all the time, its going to get annoying having to always rev high and shift fast just to keep the RPM going.
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well what is the price difference of the two?
i would say suspension but i've also been looking at the flywheel setup. keep us posted on what you do. |
flywheel is going to run you about $500 for the flywheel itself, and about $300 for the install.
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whats the suspension run? installed?
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What does the suspention package include? Do you mean all of these?
1- Front Springs 2- Rear Springs 3- Front sway bar 4- Rear Sway bar 5- Sway bar endlinks Could you just go with the front and rear springs just to lower the ride height? |
I like that spoiler. Is that also Racing Beat? you got more pics?
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Yes, I'm thinking to go with the full suspention package of RB..
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Originally Posted by Maximus
I like that spoiler. Is that also Racing Beat? you got more pics?
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looks like a flat top
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Originally Posted by Maximus
What does the suspention package include? Do you mean all of these?
1- Front Springs 2- Rear Springs 3- Front sway bar 4- Rear Sway bar 5- Sway bar endlinks Could you just go with the front and rear springs just to lower the ride height? |
UPDATE:
I ordered the RB suspension package today + End Links I'll Keep you posted!!! Unfortunately, my baby is sleeping for winter (Quebec weather), I will have to wait until spring before testing my new suspension. Next on my list: Waiting for RB Intake and RB Body Kit. Simon. |
Originally Posted by Sociopath
My opinion, you should go with Suspension Kit first. Flywheels isn't all that, I mean, you rev a lot faster, but you also lose a lot of torque. Unless you drive like a race car driver all the time, its going to get annoying having to always rev high and shift fast just to keep the RPM going.
Hmm, I too wonder if this is the case. I was contemplating the MS Flywheel, but many have said it improved the car's responsiveness. If what Sociopath says is true, then I dont think I'd like the lightened flywheel. Anyone wish to chime in.. |
No way you'll lose torque with a lighter flywheel - Flywheels don't make torque. Basically, with a lighter flywheel the car will accelerate as if it has about 10hp more in 1st gear...6hp more in 2nd gear, by fourth gear, the acceleration advantages will be gone.
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I got the RacingBeat Flywheel, Ran Me about $700 after labor, Defenitly Gives you some Accel from 6k On. Id Go with the Flywheel. Mazda did a pretty good job on our suspention, we have take care of the power problem they left us with LOL, good luck Bro
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i think u should go with suspension and build up a good feel for the car, then do engine mods but 1st we must handle!!!!
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The Prolite flywheel at Rx8Store.com is only $250. It's 9.5 lbs. which is 1 lb. less than the MS one, but for half the cost. This sounds fishy. Anyone else have any thoughts?
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I went with the MS flywheel so I could retain the warranty. After feeling the difference that it made, I wish I had had the cohones to get one of the lighter aftermarket FW's. The difference in acceleration is noticible. There is no loss of drivability. You don't have to " always rev high and shift fast just to keep the RPM going,". Thats nuts. I think the ECU is programmed to keep the RPM's up between shifts anyway.
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How about a full coilover suspension instead of springs, jic magic and tein make great full suspensions, which are fully adjustable and can be setup for any kind of track or street conditions.
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I had an RB aluminum flywheel and SR light pulleys installed at the same time. My 8 feels more responsive everywhere in the RPM range and pulls REAL nice above 6k rpm - Mmmmm. No driveability issue either or "loss of torque". It's simply extra power to the wheels and not wasted = accelerates quicker (without combustion enhancing mods). Seemed like an extra 10-20 hp unleashed.
I now have RB sway-bars waiting to be installed but I wanted to free up some HP first. Quicker acceleration is a priority for me. |
I have been asked this same question via p.m. by several people and I tell them, depending on their financial situation, to first get the suspension package(or at least the rear swaybar) because traction and wheel hop are issues for even a stock RX-8. I think the Racing Beat springs and sways are a great upgrade for a reasonable cost. The change in feel is just enough to make you feel the road a little better but not as if you are driving on cobblestones all the time. After we can get the car to use what power it has a little more efficiently I would then either go for a cat-replacement pipe or flywheel. Either of those mods will give roughly the same result. The nice thing about the flywheel as opposed to the cat is that flywheels are emissions-compliant.
Overall, I would say that the three best mods for the money are to do the suspension, cat removal midpipe, and then flywheel. After that, if you're up for it, a modest nitrous kit works well, too. Then do all the small stuff like pulleys and such. I don't understand the math involved in the idea that the benefit of a light fly becomes diminished in the higher gears. Did I miss that conversation on the forum? Charles |
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