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Juan09 06-17-2010 01:57 AM

headlight hazing already!!!??
 
ive had my 8 a little less than a year now and my headlights are already hazing. i took it in to the dealership this morning and asked if the warranty covered it and one of the guys said he doesnt think so because the hazing isnt inside the headlight and that its possibly some chemical that ive been putting on them.......if so, does anyone know of a solution to this??

Dirt_Nasty 06-17-2010 02:47 AM

It's on the outside of the headlight, so using a cleaning kit, like ones made by rain-x, will remove the deposits.

invasion08 06-17-2010 06:05 PM

Go to yout local walmart, they sell a few headlight kits. If you catch this early they should work just fine.

silverkillrx8 06-17-2010 07:32 PM

or if you r cheap go in ur bathroom and get your nice little bottle of toothpaste and a lil bit of elbow grease and should come out fine... did this with mine and looks awesome

jasonrxeight 06-18-2010 12:41 AM

plasticX works wonder.

Never L8 07-03-2010 09:26 AM

^Is that the Meguire's product? I don't have it with me, but Meguire's makes a really great plastic polish. It cleaned my lights up perfectly. This is an easy fix with the ideas mentioned here.

Mazurfer 07-03-2010 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Never L8 (Post 3622709)
^Is that the Meguire's product? I don't have it with me, but Meguire's makes a really great plastic polish. It cleaned my lights up perfectly. This is an easy fix with the ideas mentioned here.

"yes, it is".

mZimm 07-03-2010 01:44 PM

I picked up the Turtle Wax headlight restoration kit for like $8 at Target, it was on sale last week. Worked phenomenally.

mscamp02 07-03-2010 01:49 PM

if all else fails you could always wet sand and buff

Chad D. 07-03-2010 01:52 PM

I used the Rain-x product last week and it worked great! I had to resort to the good 'ol sand and buff for my santa-fe though, the cleaners were not enough.

Boltaction 12-03-2010 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Juan09 (Post 3603611)
ive had my 8 a little less than a year now and my headlights are already hazing. i took it in to the dealership this morning and asked if the warranty covered it and one of the guys said he doesnt think so because the hazing isnt inside the headlight and that its possibly some chemical that ive been putting on them.......if so, does anyone know of a solution to this??

Yes there is a simple and quick solution.
What ever you do don't listen to the advice telling you to sand your headlights.
All you need to do is deoxidize them with a acrylic lens deoxidizer.
It's liquid non abrasive system that won't damage your lens.
http://www.ibc34.com/Onestep.html

don_peppino24 06-30-2011 09:21 PM

what i did with my headlights is polish them with a foam pad and menzerna super intense polish, then menzerna super finish.
for a long lasting finish, i carefully applied a few coats of clear and then some world's best wax.

Necksnapper 08-24-2011 12:08 AM

3M makes a pretty sweet little kit that works wonders. Plenty of options out there for this! Mazda tried to pawn off a $195 treatment on me! I need to open up a car dealership so I can start extorting money out of people!

SayNoToPistons 08-24-2011 02:06 AM

Any polish will work... Dont waste your money on expensive headlight polishing kits. Abrasives are abrasives -_-... Make sure you seal them with a sealant/wax after.

extremsprt86 10-24-2011 01:44 PM

i rock compound on a small foam disc attached to a 90 degree die grinder, follow up with plasticX, and then seal it with blue magic lens sealer.

do that 2x a year they look good as new.

Deathwatch 10-24-2011 01:51 PM

I use Flitz, Works really well......You can find this product at any Uniform Shop. "Poilice Uniforms" Walmart might have it too.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Flitz-BP03...-Tube/16493905

Tamas 10-26-2011 07:48 PM

It was said by some folks that these headlight restoration compounds and methods work fine but the haze returns after a while.

After getting rid of the haze, I'd suggest applying some headlight protection film so that the lens is sealed and the haze doesn't show up again.

I had such a protector film on my headlights from very early on and after 8 years of ownership, there is no sign of any hazing.

firebirdude 11-09-2011 09:22 AM

Use any abrasive product or one of the headlight restoration kit. Then hit them with a heat gun set to high. The plastic is thick, so you'll have to move the heat gun very slowly for it to melt in the tiny scratches/hazing. If you don't think it's working, hold the heat gun in one spot for 4-5 seconds. You'll see the hazing disappear. Works like a champ.

Boltaction 11-13-2011 06:10 PM

It has been my experience that the less you do to the headlight the better.
Every time you rub an abrasive on your lens the more surface material you displace.
Over time that will cause the lens to cloud up with scratches.
Unlike oxidation scratches caused by abrasive cleaning will not come out with a non abrasive liquid, you will be forced into using more abrasives to remove them.
In addition the lens can suffer from UV layer break down and turn yellow. Eventually, You won't have a choice and you will have to replace the lens.
I find that abrasives have their place in extreme cases but for oxidation removal it's counter productive and causes unnecessary damage.

dynamho 11-14-2011 03:09 PM

Clean it with a headlamp lens restorer then protect it with Lamin-X.
http://www.lamin-x.com/Automotive-Products-s/47.htm

Tamas 11-14-2011 03:15 PM

Exactly.

Pikashoe 01-27-2012 10:30 AM

I bought a restoration kit from autozone. i will take pics of the before and after

Boltaction 11-03-2012 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by Pikashoe (Post 4175318)
I bought a restoration kit from autozone. i will take pics of the before and after

Well it's been about a year now, What happened?
Did you use the product? did you take before and after pictures and if so. How does it look today 10 months later?
Were you happy with the product relults?

Pugheaven 11-09-2012 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by silverkillrx8 (Post 3605030)
or if you r cheap go in ur bathroom and get your nice little bottle of toothpaste and a lil bit of elbow grease and should come out fine... did this with mine and looks awesome

Me too, it works perfect then buff in some car wax, hey presto in 10 minutes perfect headlights again!

Sugarfree135 11-09-2012 09:10 PM

I've experienced the whole return of the haze problem before so with the 8 this time around I personally used the rain x kit and after sealing them I put 3m clear bra over the headlights so it won't be a problem ever again lol

timmytriangles 11-09-2012 10:17 PM

I clean my headlights all the time, like every other wash. just buy a bottle of headlight cleaner. there are tons of them they all work. I think mothers makes the one i have. but iv even used that fx nascar wax stuff, it works too.

bigx5murf 11-10-2012 04:00 AM

I find it strange this is a problem. My MSM headlights get some spot hazing, but only in the summer when I park in direct sunlight. I took it out by polishing with a random orbital, hadn't returned since

GK1707 11-11-2012 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by jasonrxeight (Post 3605324)
plasticX works wonder.


Co-sign the crap out of this.. Plastx works wonders got it at walmart for like $7. And cleaned my headlight recently. Came out great, dont forget to wax afterwards for protection. Meguiars makes legit detailing stuff.

User24 03-16-2013 10:29 PM

It's just $150 to take care of this on both headlights. Did mine a few weeks ago.

The UV coating on the headlight has worn. I went to a shop, they sanded the headlights down and installed Xpel Ultimate film. It is self-healing from scratches (sunlight or hot water), and has a 10 year warranty.

The 2005 headlights look like new, and will stay that way now.

TeamRX8 03-26-2013 12:43 AM

the local car wash offered a cleaning & sealing service for $50. The headlights on my Honda Ridgeline truck (195,xxx miles) were so yellow and opaque you couldn't see inside them. After the service they look as crystal clear as new and still do 6 months later. Made a believer out of me and was cheap enough not to hassle with wasting my time on it. Most of the DIY jobs I've seen either turn out bad or don't last very long.

Javii 04-01-2013 02:52 PM

I've used like three different brands on old cars but the best one has been no doubt Turtle Wax, if you do the whole process and finish with the Lens Sealing Wax (which doesn't come with other brands) it makes it look brand new.

It's this one right here:
http://reportyourcomplaint.com/wp-co...er-298x300.png

Jazzmeson 04-05-2013 01:54 AM

I'm very OCD when it comes to keeping my car clean and headlight oxidation is one of the worst offenders. I ended up trying to restore several headlights on a Nissan Maxima, Honda Element, and of course the RX-8... I used Turtle Wax, Meguiar's, and Crystal View Chemicals all which failed on me. The oxidation returned on all the headlights I polished using different products each time they returned. So I came across a product called GlassyLite on Amazon which had a lot of good reviews on how durable the sealant was compared to the other brands. I didn't order it though because I didn't feel like dishing out twenty bucks at the time. I came across the product in person during the L.A. Auto show and ended up getting it for fifteen bucks since the guy was desperate to sell.:rollinglaSo, I decided to try it on the 8 just for the hell of it and all I can say is that it has been four months and my headlights still show no signs of oxidation. Although I can't guarantee it will last for some of you, I definitely recommend using it for those that are still having hazing problems. I also suggest waxing your headlights and tail lights from time to time to help them repel any water that hits it so it doesn't destroy the coating.

9kRotary_Venus 04-05-2013 03:52 AM

Mothers alumminum wheel polish, 1000 grit sandpaper, and a microfiber cloth works good

Boltaction 04-19-2013 08:05 PM

Eventually all headlights will cloud up again, it is a natural reaction like rust on metal. You can apply surface products that retard or protect against oxidation but none will last forever, at some point in time they will require maintenance.
DIY products make the most sense but not all DIY are a good choice.
Any process that has to be repeated over time should be both fast and safe to you and the headlights that knocks out anything that requires abrasive friction. Friction will degrade the surface and abrasives can remove the protective UV layer.
It happens so subtly that by the time you realize it the damage has been done and there are few if any options for recovery.

rickeo 04-19-2013 08:40 PM

I just went hardcore with 3 stages of wet-sanding, polishing then sealing with a clear urethane.

However, if they're just starting, go crazy with PlastX.

shanook 05-04-2013 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by mscamp02 (Post 3622888)
if all else fails you could always wet sand and buff

this is my preferred method because i know it will work! I had to do this on my car with some very low grit.

AthensSilver8 08-18-2013 09:46 AM

The turtle wax sanding kit works amazing for the price. Easy directions, less then $10, and you just watch the oxidation fall off. But, it will come back. I started seeing yellowing again after a few months even after the sealing treatment. Its good for the price though

rags1231 03-19-2014 06:11 PM

I have used quite few different ones is there a way to keep it from coming back?

Boltaction 08-26-2014 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by rags1231 (Post 4581648)
I have used quite few different ones is there a way to keep it from coming back?

There is nothing you can do just one time and have eternal protection against oxidation.
Oxidation happens like on headlight like dew forms in the morning, it is natural and to be expected.
Oxidation can be arrested with a periodic application of Pittman VaporWax acrylic conditioner. Pittman Original VaporWax APC 360ID Acrylic Paint Conditioner
If they are new or clean VaporWax will keep them that way, if they are oxidized you should use the Pittman Original ALR TSS deoxidation system to clean them and keep them that way. Pittman Original OneStep Acrylic Lens Deoxidizer
On a side note, if you've sanded them or use abrasives, there is going to be damage that is gonna be beneath the oxidation.

If its scratches from normal usage, it shouldn't pose a problem with light projection.
If its UV damage, it will have a yellow tint, but that is more of a cosmetic problem than light projection.


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