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mikes603 07-10-2014 04:04 PM

Tire Temperature System
 
Made this system (I'm an EE) for my car, and other HPDE guys I know. It's to know when your tires are up to operating temp. I thought I'd try and get some feedback here to see what people thought.

Here are the features of the kit:
  • Four IR sensors
  • Narrow 10deg sensor field of view for sampling tire sections
  • Large 1 1/12 by 2 1/2 inch display
  • Weather resistant; sensors can get wet without being ruined.
  • Removable lens cap if they need cleaning or replacement
  • Extra protective lenses
  • Does both fahrenheit and celsius
  • You can adjust the emissivity of each sensor (different materials reflect light at differing rates)
  • Quality harnesses
  • DC supply is designed for difficult automotive environments with large current dumps and voltage spikes

The installation is straight forward. You drill a small hole in the wheel arch for the sensor to poke through. Top center is best to account for changes in tire angle.

I'm aware 3 sensors per tire would be needed per corner to monitor camber load. But that's another kit--one with no display and CAN support for data-logging--and not this one, which is aimed at being sub $1k.

If anyone is interested just send me a PM or email me at mikes at ntisys.com

http://sven.signull.com/~mikes/TTS/D...otus_small.jpg http://sven.signull.com/~mikes/TTS/Sensors_small.jpg http://sven.signull.com/~mikes/TTS/harness_small.jpg

ShellDude 07-10-2014 08:40 PM

You can pull temp already via obd ... There's just no guarantee on order.

Regardless, very nice!

rickeo 07-10-2014 09:29 PM

Tire temp through OBD? Maybe I'm missing something but how is that done? :Eyecrazy:

9krpmrx8 07-10-2014 09:30 PM

Science.

ShellDude 07-11-2014 06:52 AM

It's on the can bus... Race car would need tpms

TANKERG 07-11-2014 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by rickeo (Post 4613436)
Tire temp through OBD? Maybe I'm missing something but how is that done? :Eyecrazy:

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=250627

;)

ShellDude 07-11-2014 10:32 AM

The original project where I reverse engineered the data on the S1 bus:

Paimon held out on me back then :( when he did it with his S2 experiment.

https://www.rx8club.com/attachments/...20512_2332.jpg

Loki 07-11-2014 11:02 AM

That's pretty cool (the OP's device). When you say sub-1k, how far sub are we talking? ;)

The TMPS thing is cool, but I'd want to know tread temperature, which this wouldn't give right?

mikes603 07-11-2014 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Loki (Post 4613553)
That's pretty cool (the OP's device). When you say sub-1k, how far sub are we talking? ;)

The TMPS thing is cool, but I'd want to know tread temperature, which this wouldn't give right?

Right, this gives tire tread surface temp. And over a narrow section of the tire (inside,outside or center) since it has a very narrow 10deg fov sensor. Whereas the OEM sensors give tire air temp I believe (?)

I cant publicly state cost since I'm in the process of partnering with a distributor that will set MSRP. If you're interested in one send me a PM or email and I'll get you one at just above cost.

ShellDude 07-11-2014 01:37 PM

Yup ... I'd classify the obd data as internal tire air temperature.

Your stuff is going far beyond that... I deal with hand grenades... This thread is laser guided.

TeamRX8 07-11-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4613437)
Science.

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1405118854

etzilon 07-12-2014 10:04 AM

Cool idea. I thought of prototyping something like this just for fun. I would do 3 sensors per wheel, though, and output via CANBUS so most loggers can read the data.


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