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DocWalt 03-19-2024 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4991175)
I was over at David Whitener’s shop the other day just before he left for Las Vegas. I think an RX8 will have a very hard time keeping up with him, along with the other top twin drivers.

He laid down strong times in Beeville with 3rd in the Challenge, and appears to have just finished on top today out at LV. We’ll see what happens tomorrow, but my expectation is for him to motor on for the win and top of the index finish.

edit: eating my own words with a side helping of crow, congrats to Manfred Reysser for taking the STX win at the 2024 LV Pro Solo event. Good job!
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as fast as Whitener is... I have Jon Caserta, James Tatad, Darian Taggart, etc etc. locally to compare to so I'll be able to benchmark myself and the RX-8 fairly quickly. The big thing is the RX-8's struggles getting going out of slow corners. If it's below ~35 mph the twins have a pretty big advantage in accel. After that the RX-8 pulls away a bit. Proven on data time and time again locally when I had the RX-8. It would even run with STR NDs on accel... above 35 mph haha.

The twins can also run in the 2500s on weight, I definitely can't get our S2 down to that weight.

DocWalt 03-19-2024 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by RE-Vision (Post 4991280)
As the shameful RX8 driver the excuse I have is that this is the first time the car has been sorted out and problem free in years - as a result I way, way, waaaay underdrove the car. We'll see how next week works out.

Definitely curious what you think of the new setup!

RE-Vision 03-19-2024 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by DocWalt (Post 4991286)
as fast as Whitener is... I have Jon Caserta, James Tatad, Darian Taggart, etc etc. locally to compare to so I'll be able to benchmark myself and the RX-8 fairly quickly. The big thing is the RX-8's struggles getting going out of slow corners. If it's below ~35 mph the twins have a pretty big advantage in accel. After that the RX-8 pulls away a bit. Proven on data time and time again locally when I had the RX-8. It would even run with STR NDs on accel... above 35 mph haha.

The twins can also run in the 2500s on weight, I definitely can't get our S2 down to that weight.

From all the old B stock and C stock videos I've seen of the S1 RX8s, the top drivers didn't hesitate dumping into 1st for those corners. It's something I should have done this weekend.

RE-Vision 03-19-2024 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by DocWalt (Post 4991288)
Definitely curious what you think of the new setup!

Now that I don't have front roll rates going to infinity randomly, the grip level is pretty astonishing. Hard shaking off what happened at Nats where every run was a safety run because I had no idea what the car would do - now it just does what you ask.

DocWalt 03-20-2024 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by RE-Vision (Post 4991292)
From all the old B stock and C stock videos I've seen of the S1 RX8s, the top drivers didn't hesitate dumping into 1st for those corners. It's something I should have done this weekend.

yeah... I love shifting but not so much down to first. Feels so bad for the car, but if needs be...


Originally Posted by RE-Vision (Post 4991293)
Now that I don't have front roll rates going to infinity randomly, the grip level is pretty astonishing. Hard shaking off what happened at Nats where every run was a safety run because I had no idea what the car would do - now it just does what you ask.

Funny how that works, haha. Had a bound up front swaybar much of 2021 and similar issues trusting the front end to work.

TeamRX8 03-28-2024 05:32 AM

the odds aren’t in your favor, especially in an S2 chassis, but I’ll hope and pray for you to prove me wrong.

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DocWalt 03-29-2024 08:14 AM

First event tomorrow at NNJR, we'll see how it goes.

RE-Vision 03-29-2024 12:11 PM

I don't see why the S2 couldn't do it - the gearing is nice for slower corners and it doesn't weigh that much more when you get them both race ready. Steve and I have discussed building a S2 STX car, but I think he's too deep into Hoosier territory to ever actually go back to street tires.

Also, I will gently remind everyone that the class composition hasn't changed in 5+ years. Same cars, better tires, arguably the drivers are just as good. It's still a driver's battle in STX for me.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...2a1467f368.png

DocWalt 03-29-2024 03:51 PM

I agree. FWIW I regularly had back and forth battles with James in 2021, so I'm really curious how tomorrow goes, haha.

TeamRX8 03-30-2024 01:39 AM

well clearly there some unique conditions going on the one day, I’ve yet to see an S2 be comparable to an S1 back when, and unfortunately the lower rear gearing is mated to the wrong transmission gearing, but ok.
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DocWalt 03-31-2024 11:32 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/Jh26vx23/image.png

Not bad. Evan was codriving with me, we made a ton of setup changes and went the wrong way, made some changes for my last runs (re-runs) and the car was a lot better but more to tweak. Evan definitely drove better than me, he was a few tenths faster than me in various places even before we made the car work better so he'd probably have been high 57s.

Also, I'm fairly convinced an OS Giken LSD would help a lot, it was a massive improvement on my BRZ and the RX-8 seems to be running into the same limitations that I eventually got the BRZ to. The diff helped a lot in that it was more stable on entry and rotated/carved way better on power, so you could be more aggressive with shocks on entry and let the diff stabilize the car.

My 2nd to last run (not my fastest):

Evan's fastest run:

Amy's fastest run:

Brittany's fastest run:

Back at it next week!

DocWalt 04-10-2024 10:37 AM

Some more setup tweaks, the car is working really well now. I had a few little mistakes, but the car had the pace for the PAX win.

My fastest:

DocWalt 04-22-2024 05:40 PM

Charlotte was pretty interesting... I pulled off 2nd in STX, Lenny freaking CRUSHED us all in the rain on day 2 though, impressive drive.

RE-Vision 04-22-2024 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by DocWalt (Post 4992519)
Charlotte was pretty interesting... I pulled off 2nd in STX, Lenny freaking CRUSHED us all in the rain on day 2 though, impressive drive.

2 RX8's in the podium for both national events this weekend....awesome.

I'm still fighting setup problems, plus Manfred decided to leave the rest of us behind and travel to another galaxy.



DocWalt 04-23-2024 09:26 AM

Here's my videos from Charlotte. Sadly various issues with data and video (long story for both) lead to not having Amy's fastest runs either day, but I uploaded hers as well.






DocWalt 04-23-2024 09:31 AM

Conditions were awesome Saturday. Sunday not so much, haha. 101 runs on our tires, amazed we didn't just hydroplane everywhere considering the tread depth.

https://i.postimg.cc/g26xZGyk/PXL-20...0259052-MP.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/zGLgFCNN/PXL-20...-182724699.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/CKGdcJ63/PXL-20...-174518493.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Hnxxsmsm/PXL-20...-183323810.jpg

TeamRX8 04-25-2024 06:09 PM

good job!
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TeamRX8 05-01-2024 10:02 AM

a lil’ bird told me somebody else had a good result locally this past weekend :suspect:
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hufflepuff 05-01-2024 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4992814)
a lil’ bird told me somebody else had a good result locally this past weekend :suspect:
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Well, the cat's out of the bag!

Perhaps it was a good rx8 course, or perhaps the ohlins are to credit, but i PAXed 2/117 at the local WDCR SCCA event. that's with old stock falkens (mid-2022 date codes). The #1 PAX is an STR ND that has trophied nationally. i was 0.065 behind in PAX. a properly prepped rx8 on good tires would've taken top PAX for sure, and i made a few mistakes that cost me time.

Laminar 05-02-2024 10:45 AM

Well done!

I'm so tired of getting smoked by NDs. If I fit in one maybe I'd just get one. :yelrotflm

flier129 05-02-2024 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by DocWalt (Post 4991793)

I saw that Harp sold the rx8 back to you guys and then I saw these results! Coupled with my GLTC kmiata chat constantly saying "ah shit we shoulda bought rx8s!" I'm now heavily shopping for a S2 😁


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