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Matt RX8 09-28-2008 10:20 PM

Street Driving with Hawk HT-10's?
 
Has anyone ever used Hawk HT-10's on the street?

Would it be possible to drive to and from the track on them? Track is about 3 hours away.

SouthFL 09-29-2008 08:11 AM

Problem with the HT-10 is that their operating temp. range doesn't begin until 300 deg. F.

I'm sure you can make the 3hr drive with enough braking anticipation, but your rotors will be taking a beating in the process. I know a Carbotech XP10 user here who drives on his pads to the track- they begin at 200 deg. F.

Also look into the Cobalt Friction XR2/XR5 combo which is a track compound which can be driven on the street to get to the track due to its broad operating range- according to its manufacturer- but should not be used as a street only pad.

Refer to this thread for some further info on operating range: https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-racing-25/track-day-brakes-operating-temperature-range-137786/

Matt RX8 09-29-2008 10:26 AM

Thanks,

I have a friend that used to use his Carbotech XP10s all summer long but that was with cars like the S2000, MX6 and Z28.

DOMINION 09-29-2008 10:46 AM

Hawks suck. They are over kill on the streets you dont need them.

8 Maniac 09-29-2008 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by DOMINION (Post 2661839)
Hawks suck. They are over kill on the streets you dont need them.

try reading the post. He said to drive to the track. I'm assuming that means he wants them for track use, but it would be better for him to put them on before going to the track. He's wondering if that drive to the track would be safe with those on.

SouthFL 09-29-2008 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by DOMINION (Post 2661839)
Hawks suck. They are over kill on the streets you dont need them.

Hawk HT-10 - a dedicated race compound specific for track use sucks? It would suck for street use because that would be the wrong application for such a pad. It is a great race pad- proven for many years now.

The OP simply wants to know if he can get away with driving to the track with them on- to avoid having to swap pads there.

Matt RX8 09-29-2008 02:21 PM

^ Yep, that what I was thinking about. Also thinking about bedding them in. Most likely, I'll just swap them in at the track since I'll have to swap wheels anyway.

I'll then just bed the pads in on the street and let them cool down before taking them out on the track. I don't have to worry about losing track time since we have the track for about 8 hours.

justjim 09-30-2008 10:15 AM

Can't say from experience with the Hawk HT-10 but I've always driven the 1.5 hours to Sebring with either Carbotech XP10/XP8 combo or the Cobalt XR2/XR5 combo without any issues. They work fine on the street but I always switch back to my street pads because the track pads are expensive, make more dust, and have higher rotor wear. I'm guessing you'd be fine with the Hawks they might just be a bit grabby and noisy and the wear rate on the rotor will be higher. But for a drive to the track probably OK. You'll know right away if they are unsafe.

TeamRX8 09-30-2008 06:57 PM

just don't use them hard or any more than necessary on the drive to/from and you'll be fine.

I'm pretty sure forum member "dannobre" has a lot of experience with them

dannobre 10-01-2008 04:48 AM

They are OK to drive to/from the track...but I wouldn't drive around town on them

They give you a bit of a surprise when you step on them the first time

kersh4w 10-02-2008 12:19 AM

lol :lol:

is it really that noticeable?

dannobre 10-02-2008 04:38 AM

There is a noticablen "delay"when they are cold...not horrible..but sure not the HPS or ceramics when they are cold. They work great when they are hot...stop like nothing else I've tried..and they don't melt off like butter

Matt RX8 10-17-2008 12:47 PM

I drove to and from the track on the HT-10's with no issues. The first couple of time you hit the brake pedal when cold they are a little scary but once the pads are bedded in, they work fine on the street, even when cold.

With no shims or grease they were incredibly loud on the way home once they were all covered with dust. I was stuck in some bumper to bumper traffic and even the lightest touch of the brake pedal cause a spine tingling scream that attracted a lot of attention from the other motorists.

On the track they were great when warmed up, but a little overkill on the crappy street tires that I used early in the day. They worked great with r comps. They also wore well although crumbled a bit on the edges. I ran for a few hours on the track and didn't seem to use up much pad material.

imput1234 10-18-2008 10:29 PM

downshift everytime to slow down, try to avoid using the brakes thats what I do when I drive to the track.


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