Originally Posted by BlueRenesis82
I got a little buildup on my slotted rotors, so I switched back to the OEM ones, but good either way.
probably due to your pad choice; which brand pads did you use? |
I was switching back and forth from the OEM ones and Hawk HP+
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Originally Posted by RX8SpdDmn
You were using them on the track, right?
What pads were you using? Which rotors did you buy (and from where)? Did you ever try light sanding or using different pads, or something, to remove the build up? What effect did the build up have? Did you notice any difference in pad life? Could I possibly ask any more questions?! :crazy: Thanks! StopTech slotted No Steering wheel shimmey under hard braking No Yes |
Too easy to warp stock rotors. Haven't had that problem with slotted ones.
To me I can brake harder over more laps with the slots. I tell the cooling affect. there's less brake fad. But then again I brake hard and deep. Also, go with Cermaic brakes from Poterfield racing. They've been in racing for years and make a quality pad. |
Originally Posted by Razz1
Too easy to warp stock rotors. Haven't had that problem with slotted ones.
To me I can brake harder over more laps with the slots. I tell the cooling affect. there's less brake fad. But then again I brake hard and deep. Also, go with Cermaic brakes from Poterfield racing. They've been in racing for years and make a quality pad. |
I've never liked the Hawk HP Plus and won't use them; way too grabby especially for autox, their HPS and motorsport racing pads I love though
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I don't autocross, so the grabbiness isnt a huge deal for me, but i love their grip coming down into hard braking zones
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as long as you're braking in a straight line it's no problem
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yep, like turn 5 at Road America, or coming down into 10 a/b at Road Atlanta :)
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added clarification; ... or not at ten/tenths adhesion
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I'm coming down into those turns pretty hard, prob close to ABS in both situations
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I use the carbo tech panther 8's(on the front) and bobcats on the back( so I dont have to switch those out for street use). They are more expensive than the Hawks but not nearly as grabby and have much more rapid progression. Makes trailbraking much easier.
If you run on a hard braking track such as Road Atlanta i suggest strongly that you fabercate some front brake ducts no matter what pad you use. They do get hot. olddragger |
Originally Posted by olddragger
I use the carbo tech panther 8's(on the front) and bobcats on the back( so I dont have to switch those out for street use). They are more expensive than the Hawks but not nearly as grabby and have much more rapid progression. Makes trailbraking much easier.
If you run on a hard braking track such as Road Atlanta i suggest strongly that you fabercate some front brake ducts no matter what pad you use. They do get hot. olddragger |
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RacingBrake says no need for ducts on theirs, simply removing the OE brake shield is all their BBK requires for Road Hotlanta, etc.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
RacingBrake says no need for ducts on theirs, simply removing the OE brake shield is all their BBK requires for Road Hotlanta, etc.
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The rx7store.net rotors (Brembo blanks, slotted) and Hawk HP+ pads worked AWESOME at Mid-Ohio this past weekend. I even have pad left! This is a first for me. I usually go through a full set in 1 weekend.
The track was just finished being repaved the week before we got there. It was super smooth. I'd never been there before and had a blast. Videos will be posted over the weekend, hopefully!:ylsuper: |
Originally Posted by RX8SpdDmn
The brake shield HAS a duct, though. Maybe it gets in the way of their kit, but there is a big flare at the front of the shield to draw air into the rotor (and then out the veins).
it's a flair, not a duct, and it's contained fully within the inside of the wheel shell :rolleyes:. RacingBrake doesn't recommend ducting air to the rotor unless you design the ducting to feed both sidesof the rotor evenly, the reason is because if you feed to the backside only it creates a thermal imbalance on the rotor SpeedSource makes a duct kit that feeds both sides of the OE front brakes, they are presently testing the RacingBrake 2-pc rotors ... Both the standard and Enkei wheel RacingBrake BBK's require one very small corner on the brake shield to be trimmed for clearance of the caliper mount. The rotor sits much further inboard on the Enkei wheel BBK, this requires a small area of brake shield protrusion near the tierod to be knocked down slightly with a hammer. Otherwise the brake shield works fine with their BBK, they recommend taking the back shield off because for track use it actually traps more heat than it relieves. |
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
it's a flair, not a duct, and it's contained fully within the inside of the wheel shell :rolleyes:. RacingBrake doesn't recommend ducting air to the rotor unless you design the ducting to feed both sidesof the rotor evenly, the reason is because if you feed to the backside only it creates a thermal imbalance on the rotor.
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the difference is the OE rotors have straight vanes whle the RacingBrake BBK rotors have curved vanes and their rotors are unique in that the attaching hubs are center-mounted, they generate their own flow through the rotor through both the inside and outside, and I just happened to have a BBK disc on my table, it is the same approx. thickness on both sides
However, like I said before, RacingBrake generally does not recommend ducting or brake shields on their BBK kits for general track use ... if you need ducts for say, a multi-hour endurance race, then make sure you have air feeding to both sides of the rotor
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
RacingBrake says no need for ducts on theirs, simply removing the OE brake shield is all their BBK requires for Road Hotlanta, etc.
and of course, SpeedSource makes and sells a ducting kit for the OE brakes that feeds both sides of the rotor, it would be a lot easier and less costly to feed the inside only if that was sufficient ... but what do they know compared to me or you :hahano: |
I couldnt find any info on the Speed Source site about the air ducts. Do you have a link?
Mainly curious if it will work with an intercooler in the way, and with the MS Bumper. I am thinking the MS Bumper shouldnt be an issue since thats what they use. -hS |
they don't advertise on the web, you have to call
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Will do
Speed Source producsts are generally out of my price range at the moment... but i'll find out anway. This maybe more reasonable a year from now. -hS |
if you don't get it soon you'll only be able to get it through access to the MazdaSpeed racer program:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/speedsource-parts-rx-8-a-83108/ |
apparently I didn't quite get it right, the RacingBrake link below goes through a number of rotor design features and discusses the differences. Mention is also made about the brake shield. I wasn't aware that RacingBrake uses more curved ventilating space vanes on the hotter outer diameter of the disc than the inner. I found it interesting ...
http://www.racingbrake.com/main/rotor_vane_design.asp also I edited a correction in an earlier post, SpeedSource is testing the RacingBrake 2-pc rotors, not BBK. They are required to keep the OE calipers per the rules. Word is that their testing went very well ... :) |
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