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not any more, going back to Stock, plus there's DKNV's Stock car too ... and they've got stiff front bars to boot

Ah, okay. I need to play with this bar. I have it on one setting softer than stock now, but need to try stiffer and see how that feels. I really just need some major time on a skidpad to get these 2812s dialed in. :P

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Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 2246432)

What is this off-turn push you guys keep talking about? :dunno:

Maybe you need to drive my car some time ...

No thanks, when you beat me in your car, I may never recover...:Eyecrazy:

Seriously, I'd like to give it a spin (hopefully not literally) next time you and Debbie come down the hill to the Bay Area.

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Originally Posted by mwood (Post 2246446)

No thanks, when you beat me in your car, I may never recover...:Eyecrazy:

Seriously, I'd like to give it a spin (hopefully not literally) next time you and Debbie come down the hill to the Bay Area.

We'll only be running one day, you should clean my clock ... :stickpoke

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Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 2246452)

We'll only be running one day, you should clean my clock ... :stickpoke

:icon_no2:

gotta admit, that was a good shot :lol:

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Originally Posted by CodingParadox (Post 2246441)

our softest setting is quite a bit stiffer than the OE bar

I was just kidding with you Mikey

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Originally Posted by mwood (Post 2245667)

I don't know, but it seems to me that the bigger item might end up being the changes indicated, but unexplained, in the rear suspension?

The gearing thing, in terms of max speed in 2nd, is probably not too big a deal, as it seems there are less and less "National" type courses where exceeding 60mph is going to happen in the RX8. Of course, if there is a big difference in mid range 2nd gear acceleration, that would be huge...

Beyond the rear suspension and a possible lower top speed in 2nd gear, the other big factor that's still unknown is the final production weight of the new car. The R3 is said to be 45lbs lighter than the non-R3, but until we find out the actual weight of either car we don't know what we're "sizing up" at this point.

If weight is equal between these two RX-8 generations, the new model *should* be faster - especially on tighter courses where speeds don't exceed 60mph. If it is slightly heavier, it could very well be course dependent which car would come out on top (given equal drivers in each).

Btw, my point earlier about the AP1/AP2 S2000 was not to say that they were as similar as the new RX-8 to old RX-8, just that both cars are fast in different ways yet end up being almost dead even on most autocross courses. Heck, Nats in '07 had an East Course full of transitions and a West courses that favored powerful cars w/ traction - Collett was fastest on both courses in Wynveen's AP1. :dunno: