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zoom44 11-07-2006 12:16 PM

Rolex 24 GT class champion Randy Pobst Testing with SpeedSource!
 
http://www.crash.net/news_view~t~Gra...~id~139939.htm



Tremblay was pleased with the day's progress, and admitted that he was hopeful that Pobst would become a member of the line-up.

"I'd rather race with him than against him," he smiled.
That would be a great addition to the team!! :D:

painter1 11-07-2006 05:28 PM

Rolex 24 @ daytona is across the street from my house! I could throw a rock and hit the pits!(not literally) I will take some pics this year!

Renesis_8 11-07-2006 05:32 PM

wooooooooo nice!!! good news for speedsource!
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XDEEDUBBX 11-07-2006 05:34 PM

are the speedsource cars really rockin 250whp?

ULLLOSE 11-07-2006 05:54 PM

The word I hear is drivers of factory backed Mazda pro teams are no longer allowed to compete against Mazda products in another series/class. So guys like Pobst that drive in more than one series now have to drive only in a Mazda or pick a series/class that Mazda does not have a car in.

For instance he can drive a Porsche in World Challenge GT because there are no Mazda's in GT. In GrandAm GT now you have SpeedSource in there with a Mazda so the Porsche is not an option anymore.
Smart move, you don't want your best WC TC driver beating your other teams in another series.

Kind of like the Cup boys, you don't see Dale Jr running a Ford in Busch, always better for business to keep your top talent in your cars.

No doubt he can help put SpeedSource on top. :rock:

alnielsen 11-07-2006 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by painter1
Rolex 24 @ daytona is across the street from my house! I could throw a rock and hit the pits!(not literally) I will take some pics this year!

You suck. I love Daytona Beach.:mdrmed:

zoom44 11-07-2006 07:09 PM

this would be the carbonfiber bodied(110lbs) 3 rotor rx-8

Tirminyl 11-07-2006 08:11 PM

That would be freaking sweet if he joined them!

Tirminyl 11-07-2006 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by XDEEDUBBX
are the speedsource cars really rockin 250whp?

No, but according to RG's talk with them they are running 260-265 crank and 229-233rwhp. Read: https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=205

XDEEDUBBX 11-07-2006 10:57 PM

and extra 20-30 whp would be sick!

Renesis_8 11-08-2006 12:12 AM

Heres a pic from GrandAm website.
http://www.grandamerican.com/CONTENT...TEST800-04.jpg
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Renesis_8 11-08-2006 12:18 AM

There is also mention of the 350Z on the website... Appreantly it is running a stock engine and chassis, of course stripped and etc, just like the ST Speedsource RX-8. I am not so sure how they will extract 400hp out of the VQ in NA form.

The tubeframe 3-rotor RX-8 definatly has an advantage in the GT class.
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GULAMAN 11-08-2006 12:47 AM

I'm confused. I thought Speedsource fielded a Grand-Am ST car. are they fielding a car for Grand-Am GT next year as well? or *Rolex GT* ? (which I thought was a separate, higher-prepped class than Grand Am GT)

mp5 11-08-2006 12:57 AM

They field multiple ST cars in Grand-Am Cup (which has ST and GS classes), and started running the 3-rotor car pictured above in the Rolex GT class last year.

It looks like the Grand-Am Cup will be renamed the "Koni Challenge" for 2007.

rotary crazy 11-08-2006 02:05 PM

I hope he joints speedsource, i like the way he drives

hogcar 11-08-2006 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Tirminyl
No, but according to RG's talk with them they are running 260-265 crank and 229-233rwhp. Read: https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=205


The Grand Am Cup cars (Mazda RX8) are making around 250HP at the flywheel.

The Grand Am GT car shown is a 3 rotor that makes north of 450HP.

cavemancan 11-09-2006 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by hogcar
The Grand Am Cup cars (Mazda RX8) are making around 250HP at the flywheel.

The Grand Am GT car shown is a 3 rotor that makes north of 450HP.

I am glad you said that cause I was about to have a cow! :Freak_ani :mdrmed:

I personally spoke to the SpeedSource guys when they were doing the Grand Prix of Miami last year at the Homestead Speedway. They were running a 20b (3 rotor) with 419 wHP NA. I have several pics wich they asked me not to show till the end of the race...I thought that was kewl of them! :Eyecrazy:

They even invited me to come out and watch them dyno the car but unfortunatly they dont have office hrs on the weekends.

zoom44 12-26-2006 03:30 PM

Its Official!!!

Randy Pobst will drive the #70 with Sylvain , David Haskell and Nick Ham


http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbc...37/1062/sports

zoom44 12-26-2006 03:47 PM

look at this list of the Competition

# Four-time Cup winner Jeff Gordon who is partnering with 2005 Rolex 24 overall winners and Prototype champions Max Angelelli and Wayne Taylor in the No. 10 SunTrust Pontiac Riley.

For Gordon, the experience is new and enlightening.

"The car actually has quite a bit of torque and power under throttle in the slower sections, so you get a lot of wheel spin," he told reporters during a test at Homestead this month.

"Car control is important."

# Newly crowned Nextel Cup champion Jimmie Johnson is entered in the No. 91 Lowe's Riley-Matthews Motorsports Pontiac Riley alongside Jim Matthews, Marc Goossens and Ryan Hunter-Reay.

# Two-time Cup champion Tony Stewart is listed on the No. 20 Howard Motorsports Pontiac Crawford with multi-time Rolex 24 overall winners Andy Wallace and Butch Leitzinger.

# And 2000 Cup champ Bobby Labonte is expected to participate with Finlay Motorsports.

The list of champions is not limited to NASCAR.

Defending Rolex 24 champions Dan Wheldon and Scott Dixon, both who have won the Indy Racing League crown, are expected to drive the No. 02 Target Chip Ganassi Racing Lexus Riley. Also, 2004 Rolex Series Daytona Prototype champion Scott Pruett is entered in the No. 01 TELMEX Chip Ganassi Racing Lexus Riley. Both teams will have to add drivers since rules require a minimum of three and a maximum of five drivers for the twice-around-the-clock race.

Also, three-time IRL champion and 2006 Indianapolis 500 winner Sam Hornish Jr. and two-time Indy 500 winner Helio Castroneves are entered in the No. 60 Michael Shank Racing Lexus Riley with Daytona Prototype regulars Mark Patterson and Oswaldo Negri Jr.

rotarygod 12-26-2006 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by hogcar
The Grand Am Cup cars (Mazda RX8) are making around 250HP at the flywheel.

The Grand Am GT car shown is a 3 rotor that makes north of 450HP.

Talking with David Haskell at seveonstock, they are making about 260-265hp in the 2 rotor. Remember it's on higher octane fuel than the street for more agressive tuning. The 3 rotor makes around 420 hp or so. They could have made more power though but opted to have more average power. Their engine makes less peak power than the Courage does and has a lower redline. They have more average power (torque) within their powerband than the Courage does due to longer intake runners.

Renesis_8 12-26-2006 05:29 PM

Hey Zoom, u know who will drive the #69 car? their 2nd 3-rotor.
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Renesis_8 12-26-2006 05:36 PM

69 GT SpeedSource Emil Assentato, Locust Valley, NY; Nick Longhi, Nyack, NY; Jeff Segal, Miami, FL Mazda RX-8 FXDD

70 GT SpeedSource David Haskell, Plantation, FL; Sylvain Tremblay, Coral Springs, FL; Nick Ham, Evergreen, CO; Randy Pobst, Gainesville, GA Mazda RX-8 Mazda/ Mazdaspeed

This is from the entry list for Daytona Jan test day.
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TeamRX8 12-26-2006 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by rotarygod
Talking with David Haskell at seveonstock, they are making about 260-265hp in the 2 rotor.

that would be engine HP with emission equipment removed; no cat, non-emission header, etc. and some other mods like built engines with ceramic apex and other blueprinted/hand-fit seals, no A/C drive, etc.

EDITED: flywheel/engine HP is what I meant to type, my WTF?! bad :spank:

think I'm doing pretty good to be making 214 emissions-legal RWHP on a Mustang dyno with a factory engine, though I also am running their A/C-delete pulleys

rotarygod 12-26-2006 07:01 PM

Nope that's flywheel. At the wheels they do somewhere around 229-233 or so. They do not have ceramic seals or anything special done to the engines. People keep thinking there must be something special about their engines but there isn't. They are effectively no different from what you get in an RX-8. The engine is just better than most people give it credit for.

rotary crazy 12-26-2006 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by rotarygod
Nope that's flywheel. At the wheels they do somewhere around 229-233 or so. They do not have ceramic seals or anything special done to the engines. People keep thinking there must be something special about their engines but there isn't. They are effectively no different from what you get in an RX-8. The engine is just better than most people give it credit for.

in fact it is so much better than people think, some tuners in japan are getting as much as 225 rwhp without porting! thats as much as the 13b REW did with twin turbos

hogcar 12-26-2006 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by rotarygod
Nope that's flywheel. At the wheels they do somewhere around 229-233 or so. They do not have ceramic seals or anything special done to the engines..


LOL :hahano:

hogcar 12-26-2006 07:54 PM

I wish I had one of their "nothing special" engines!! You think they would trade me mine for theirs?

Maybe I will ask them at the test days in a week. On second thought---- I couldn't stand the laughter.

TeamRX8 12-26-2006 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by rotarygod
Nope that's flywheel. At the wheels they do somewhere around 229-233 or so. They do not have ceramic seals or anything special done to the engines. People keep thinking there must be something special about their engines but there isn't. They are effectively no different from what you get in an RX-8. The engine is just better than most people give it credit for.


edited, I thought engine HP and wrote RWHP, can only attribute it to a brain fart

and apparently at least some GrandAm teams are going through their engines, I wouldn't expect any less from Speedsource though I may have misspoken in their case:

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=82

kartweb 12-26-2006 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by rotary crazy
I hope he joints speedsource, i like the way he drives

ilities.

There was a time when I was extremely impressed with Randy's capabilities. Probably one of the most memorable times was at the Palm Beach Fairgounds in March 1988 during a Firehawk race. Randy shared a Supercharged Toyota MR2 with Linda (his wife) in the Touring class. Linda had the first session (3 hours) and spun exiting a sweeper punting all 4 corners. After she brought it in Randy & the team literally pulled out every panel by hand and he squeezed behind the seat for the next 2 hours - dead last a full lap off the leader. It was a sheer treat to watch him drive when I had the chance. Learned a few neat tricks like swerving in front of a faster 944 Turbo (driven by Bob Akin) to be BUMPDRAFTED down the straight. (Bob was just on of a few very pissed Gran Sport drivers at that after the race...)

On the last lap Randy took the class lead and win - passed me about 2 laps earlier in 3rd.

Team Highball's Chassis 07 won the GTU class at Daytona, not just once, but 5 out of 6 times. Same chassis. 83, 84, 85, 86, 88. Amos Johnson the team owner lost his hearing in the 83 race. He never realized how loud the rotary was. They didn't have dB meters or chicanes at Daytona in those days.

LareNgitis 12-28-2006 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44
look at this list of the Competition

Those guys are all driving the prototype class, not the GT class.

Kurt Bob 12-28-2006 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by rotarygod
Nope that's flywheel. At the wheels they do somewhere around 229-233 or so. They do not have ceramic seals or anything special done to the engines. People keep thinking there must be something special about their engines but there isn't. They are effectively no different from what you get in an RX-8. The engine is just better than most people give it credit for.

The Grand Am cars are allowed to run different apex seals. Also, they are allowed to run a different (or remapped) PCM. These changes help to achieve the extra power. Most of the other modifications that are made help with the engine's longevity - things related to keeping the parts cool.

legokcen 12-31-2006 08:19 PM

I'll be going to the Daytona 24 race.

Kurt Bob 12-31-2006 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by legokcen
I'll be going to the Daytona 24 race.

So I hear! A couple of Wolfpackers ought to be able to help the team out. Even though it can be a lot of work, I had a good time at VIR with the team. I got to yuck it up with Derek Bell and a few others. I met Patrick Dempsey (who my wife is a big fan of). You should have a good time!!!

legokcen 01-01-2007 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Kurt Bob
So I hear! A couple of Wolfpackers ought to be able to help the team out. Even though it can be a lot of work, I had a good time at VIR with the team. I got to yuck it up with Derek Bell and a few others. I met Patrick Dempsey (who my wife is a big fan of). You should have a good time!!!


You helping out the Team or just spectating?

Kurt Bob 01-01-2007 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by legokcen
You helping out the Team or just spectating?

I'll be helping out. I worked at the last race. I thought maybe you knew that.

zoom44 01-04-2007 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by LareNgitis
Those guys are all driving the prototype class, not the GT class.

oops my bad. thats still a hell of afield in protoype

rotary crazy 01-05-2007 01:54 PM

practice is on right now, and Randy is driving :)

Endgame 01-05-2007 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by rotary crazy
practice is on right now, and Randy is driving :)

AHHH. Why did you not make me read this post earlier so I could see it!? You were suppose to read my mind and tell me to start watching!! Some people are really selfish....

bern 01-05-2007 08:23 PM

posted Daytona 24hr combined practice times from all 5 sessions at:

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-racing-25/07-rolex-daytona-24hr-test-results-106666/#post1680223 :icon_tup:

Enjoy,

-Bern

rotary crazy 01-05-2007 08:30 PM

#70 broke into the 1:53,xxx :ylsuper:

swoope 01-06-2007 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by bern
posted Daytona 24hr combined practice times from all 5 sessions at:

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=1680223 :icon_tup:

Enjoy,

-Bern

thanks bern.

am going to watch them sat...

beers :beer:


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