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NorCalEight 11-23-2015 03:02 PM

Sonoma Raceway 21 Nov 2015
 
Sonoma Raceway 1:58.25

2006 RX-8 base model, Öhlins road&track coilovers, Nitto NT-01 245/45-17 on 17 x 8.5 RPF1s. I don't know about power but it pulls consistently and escapedan says flames shoot out of the exhaust sometimes :) I have a stock motor with bolt-ons (RB REVi intake, RB V3 PCM flash, header, midpipe, catback). Brake mods are SS lines, fluid, Hawk HT-10 pads, and DIY front cooling ducts using the sneed4speed caliper brackets.


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Silver = escapedan
Phantom Blue = NorCalEight
Sonoma Raceway 21Nov2015

NorCalEight 12-08-2015 12:03 PM

Sonoma (long) 1:55.25
taken w/ iphone6 and Harry's Laptimer

2006 base, stock motor w/ intake & exhaust, Ohlins road&track coilovers, Nitto NT01 245/45-17

pcs 12-15-2015 04:25 PM

was hoping to have more times from Laguna, but turn 3 was wet all day, and I was hitting the DB limit, so ended up having to lift out of turn 5. Managed to put down a 1:50.xx on V710s though, so not bad!

pcs 12-15-2015 04:25 PM

blu3dragon - did any of the R3 twin pics turn out?

blu3dragon 12-16-2015 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by NorCalEight (Post 4730756)
Sonoma Raceway 1:58.25

2006 RX-8 base model, Öhlins road&track coilovers, Nitto NT-01 245/45-17 on 17 x 8.5 RPF1s. I don't know about power but it pulls consistently and escapedan says flames shoot out of the exhaust sometimes :) I have a stock motor with bolt-ons (RB REVi intake, RB V3 PCM flash, header, midpipe, catback). Brake mods are SS lines, fluid, Hawk HT-10 pads, and DIY front cooling ducts using the sneed4speed caliper brackets.

Nice driving! Wish I could have been there the same day. Let me know when you next get out somewhere. My next date is likely to be TH west in Feb, but I could be talked into a day somewhere before then...

blu3dragon 12-16-2015 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by NorCalEight (Post 4732947)
Sonoma (long) 1:55.25 taken w/ iphone6 and Harry's Laptimer

2006 base, stock motor w/ intake & exhaust, Ohlins road&track coilovers, Nitto NT01 245/45-17

Did you mean 1:58.25? It's the same video as your earlier post. I need evidence of this 1:55.25 :-P

blu3dragon 12-16-2015 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by pcs (Post 4734113)
was hoping to have more times from Laguna, but turn 3 was wet all day, and I was hitting the DB limit, so ended up having to lift out of turn 5. Managed to put down a 1:50.xx on V710s though, so not bad!

That's a good time considering the conditions. Nice driving. Good work on Sunday too, I think you were ~5s quicker than me in the wet!

blu3dragon 12-16-2015 12:41 PM

New personal worst :-)

2:19.088 Laguna Seca in Very Wet conditions. S2 Sport, coilovers, Dunlop Direzza DZ102 225/45/18 (commuter tires :)).

I just could not find the grip, or confidence in the wet. In retrospect I should have played with the setup in the afternoon to try and get the car more stable, but to be honest I was pretty happy to just focus on consistency at that point and drive home in one piece at the end of the day.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...85755fa8df.jpg

Here's my best lap in the wet (the GPS timer has it as 2:18.88, compared to the track timing of 2:19.088):


A view of the conditions after retreating to the garage at the end of that lap:


And what happened when I tried to push a little with slightly slow reactions in the afternoon (shows up as the 6:04.477 lap on the timing):


MagnusRacing 12-16-2015 04:00 PM

Rain conditions are great practice! I wish we had more rain in SoCal! Seems like every time we get rain down here it stops by the start of the race and I'm kicking myself for putting on rains. I think my rain tires are seven years old... probably rocks by now!

blu3dragon 12-16-2015 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by MagnusRacing (Post 4734407)
Rain conditions are great practice!

I completely agree, and clearly I need more practice :) It was like driving a different car at a different track.

AllBlack2 12-16-2015 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by blu3dragon (Post 4734424)
I completely agree, and clearly I need more practice :) It was like driving a different car at a different track.

Am I right in saying it seemed like you were understeering through the turn in point on a lot of corners? Tough to tell from just the video.

blu3dragon 12-16-2015 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by AllBlack2 (Post 4734440)
Am I right in saying it seemed like you were understeering through the turn in point on a lot of corners? Tough to tell from just the video.

I was driving past it. No issues with understeer. My problem was that I had no grip on the normal line where the rubber was, and also struggled with oversteer on exit, often as I was crossing the rubber laid down on the normal line. So, I braked and turned off the normal line, then apexed late, trying to get the car as straight as possible early on so I could get on the gas. Basically a wet Karting line. I can't tell you it worked though...

pcs 12-17-2015 09:51 AM

that was great practice in the wet! The spin I did in turn 6 was almost the same spin, except i ended up off track just on the inside (before the wall) :).

All this reinforces is that I need to get out more!

AllBlack2 12-17-2015 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by blu3dragon (Post 4734454)
I was driving past it. No issues with understeer. My problem was that I had no grip on the normal line where the rubber was, and also struggled with oversteer on exit, often as I was crossing the rubber laid down on the normal line. So, I braked and turned off the normal line, then apexed late, trying to get the car as straight as possible early on so I could get on the gas. Basically a wet Karting line. I can't tell you it worked though...

Makes sense. I've never had to deal with that much, it rains pretty frequently around here so there's not a lot of time to let the rubber and oils build up on the surface. Normally I would try to stick to the most used line, since other cars will sweep most of the standing water away. Doesn't work too well in heavy rain like you had though.

Quicker10u 12-21-2015 05:53 PM

1:26.8 at Roebling Road Raceway...Only Vid I got all day was this one at 1:27.1 as I ran out of memory on my GoPro and Phone :(

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pcs 01-04-2016 10:09 AM

Chuckwalla Valley Raceway - 2:10.59 - R3, stock suspension, Kumho V710, DTC-60s, AEM CAI, RB midpipe & cat back.

Oddly enough, it was my first time there, posted this time mid 1st day, couldn't get back close to it on day 2... trying to drive fast instead of trying to drive smooth, I think.

Arca_ex 01-04-2016 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by pcs (Post 4737263)
Chuckwalla Valley Raceway - 2:10.59 - R3, stock suspension, Kumho V710, DTC-60s, AEM CAI, RB midpipe & cat back.

Oddly enough, it was my first time there, posted this time mid 1st day, couldn't get back close to it on day 2... trying to drive fast instead of trying to drive smooth, I think.

Chuckwalla is kind of deceiving, it seems like it would be a horsepower track but really it's a gigantic momentum track. Is that time CW or CCW? They run it both ways.

With the Miata (120WHP, 225/45R15 NT01, 2375lbs with driver) I was able to do 2:07 CW and 2:06 CCW, but with the way the car is set up now (125WHP, 205/50R15 Hoosier R7, 2375lbs with driver) I think I could get into the 2:04's in either direction.

pcs 01-04-2016 01:54 PM

That's clockwise. The turn over the hill gave me fits all day, haha. Any recommendations there for when I go back?

Arca_ex 01-05-2016 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by pcs (Post 4737336)
That's clockwise. The turn over the hill gave me fits all day, haha. Any recommendations there for when I go back?

You mean the off camber turn? That turn is a total throw away, you just have to hit your proper apex and set up the next corner to get a good run up the hill to the cork screw. If you can't hit the proper line through there or you start sliding or "falling off" of the corner then it just means you're going too fast.


Here's a video of a 2:01 lap in a '95 Miata. I believe it's like 150WHP and 2350lbs. Not sure what tire but I think it's a 225mm NT01. This is pretty much the same line I try to drive.


pcs 01-06-2016 11:30 AM

that's not TOO far off from what I'm doing... I'll have to save that video for the next time i'm out there! Thanks!

coolcars44 01-06-2016 02:12 PM

i want to see some lap times from road atlanta daytona vir full course and amp nobody?

Quicker10u 01-07-2016 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by coolcars44 (Post 4737836)
i want to see some lap times from road atlanta daytona vir full course and amp nobody?

Running Road Atlanta Next Month with Skip Barber and then Daytona in April. I'll have video and telemetry for both...

wankelbolt 01-07-2016 08:38 PM

:wallbash:

Originally Posted by coolcars44 (Post 4737836)
i want to see some lap times from road atlanta daytona vir full course and amp nobody?

Well, about 5 years ago I was turning 2:22's like clockwork on VIR full with a passenger in the car. :Freak_ani Last two laps on this video:


Gotdammit I can't believe it's been five years. :wallbash: :icon_no2:

Loki 01-31-2016 10:47 PM

Hey guys, I updated the first post with times from the recent posts. Work has imposed a ban on editing/posting on forums, so I can only edit from home -- which I've forgotten to do :)

UP UP! Soon it won't be snowing any more, which means new laptimes north of VIR :o

blu3dragon 02-01-2016 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Loki (Post 4742259)
Hey guys, I updated the first post with times from the recent posts. Work has imposed a ban on editing/posting on forums, so I can only edit from home -- which I've forgotten to do :)

UP UP! Soon it won't be snowing any more, which means new laptimes north of VIR :o

Thanks, I was wondering where you went. I wasn't really intending you to post my wet time either, but fair enough!

I'm looking forward to the season in norcal, it seems like there is a lot of potential to spend time with fellow RX8s on track this year :)


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