Nope. I thought they might but that's not the case. I agree that it's most likely more secure attaching to both lower hooks. I might rig something up later this year. But for now, I'm fine w/ the upper latch. I just want to get out and run! I have to wait until the 21st due to the work schedule. :mad:

Don't suppose you have a grasp. If you use the stock seat belts you can move a quite a distance around the cockpit, even smashing your face into the wheel on secondary impacts. Take an offcourse excursion and you can get the cockpit full of rocks, mud, dirt, dust, gravel. Roll the car and that is multiplied several times. Even with full belts, cage, window net you get lots of junk in.

I raced for 10 years, 5 in open cockpit and 5 in closed. I got hit with nearly as much junk in a closed cockpit. I would never consider using a open face helmet on a track. I have a open face but I only use it for instructing and occasionally in hot weather for comfort.

But hey it's your face. Reconstructive jaw surgery is lots of fun.

As a much more experienced person I know says, "10 cent head, 10 cent helmet"

I do believe that to meet SNELL requirements, the shield is required to be "bulletproof". What ever that means.

so can your student also wear open face if you're wearing one too?

If I ever move on to the competition level on the track, yes I will get a full face helmet, but at that point I would also have a completely race-prepped car with a whole bunch of additional safety equipments installed.

Most of the instructors I've ridden with during driving school, like you, wore open face helmets, I think if they're OK with the risk of wearing one in a car driven by a lesser driver (aka their student, or in this case me), I think I'll be relatively OK as well wearing one...

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Competition is not the issue. If you are running at track speeds you are already assuming all the same risks.

I've felt much safer in a 40+ car field of open wheel cars racing that at track events with novices and cluebees circulating around at much lower speed. Inexperienced drivers on race tracks take very large risks because they are relatively ignorant and careless. They usually don't know when they are over their head. There have been a number of notable stupid deaths at track events the last few years by people who were way over their head but didn't realize it. Hitting a guard rail at 100 feels the same if it a track event or a race. Except you won't have the worker or medical support at a track event that you would at a race.

Relatively OK for you assumes you never make a stupid mistake and crash.

Like I said. I would not use a openfaced helmet at any track event peroid. Not even for instructing.

I've given it a lot of thought & research. Bottom line is, I can only control what I do. If I assume the risk to go on the track, I can only control myself. If the dumbass in front of me goes off track and throws up a rock, I can only control how much protection I have from that rock and if I can avoid it.

Things happen on the track at speed. I have a responsibility to my family to protect myself as best I can.