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bumblebeerx8 01-23-2011 11:15 AM

want to rent/barrow mazda fuel pump removal tool
 
Hello i am getting ready to swap out my fuel pump. I have read where you can do it with a screwdriver but i would really like to have the tool.

I tried my dealer with no help and no suprise. they stated they didnt even have one or knew about one.

So if you have one and willing to loan it out ill gladly pay for shipping. I would guess only needing it for a few days at most. If you can help shoot me a PM

Thanks
Josh

bumblebeerx8 01-24-2011 09:31 PM

bump anyone?

Aseras 01-25-2011 09:23 AM

I use this, works fine http://www.amazon.com/Lock-Technolog.../dp/B000I14PGQ Just get it snug on both side and turn it by hand by grabbing the uprights on each side, dont use the ratchet.

RotaryResurrection 01-25-2011 11:57 AM

IF you have a little welder you can make your own (what I did) from some flat iron, about 3/4" wide and maybe 1/8-3/16 thick. Just use a cutoff wheel to cut 4 "legs" about 2.5-3" tall. Take two of those and place them in opposing positions on the fuel pump trim ring, hold them tight against the base (they will not stand straight up, rather at an angle) and then measure the distance across the top. Cut another bar this length. Now have a helper lay the bar across the top of these two legs, all on the actual fuel pump trim ring. Make two quick tack welds (be sure to shield all the interior and the fuel pump!) then move it to a work bench and finish your welds. Repeat the procedure again, giving yourself room for both cross bars to clear each other. Now put both together and weld the center where they meet. Now just find a large nut and weld it on to the center, and you're done for less than 15 bucks.

It looks like a 4-legged ugly spider, but it works awesome.

Or y ou and a friend can go at it with two hammers and two large flathead screwdrivers...it's not hard to do with two people, nearly impossible with only one.

If none of those options are available/acceptable to you I would be willing to loan you mine.

bumblebeerx8 01-25-2011 01:21 PM

i could possibly make the one you described RR. do you have a refrence picture that you could pm me or just post up here. I just really didnt want to go at it with a screwdriver (seems like a crude method and a second person is hard to come by sometimes.

All in all i would love to have the real tool. I would only need it 2 maybe 3 days and then return. Id even put a deposit through paypal and if i take longer than a week you could keep it. It sucks some had to ruin the loaning of the tool through BHR

chiefmg 01-25-2011 02:16 PM

I got the upgrade fuel pump from BNR for the wife's car. Bought the tool Aseras shows, didn't work for me at all (and believe me, in my line of work I can generally make anything work). Checked with my local dealer but they told me that due to some asshat Joe's Garage breaking a tool and then lying about it, they don't loan stuff out. As a last resort I tried the punch/hammer method, all that got me was a couple of broken ears. Sucker is on there. I am looking at buying the Mazda tool but I am a couple of months away from home at this point. If you can wait that long let me know and we can work it out.

RotaryResurrection 01-25-2011 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by bumblebeerx8 (Post 3859874)
i could possibly make the one you described RR. do you have a refrence picture that you could pm me or just post up here. I just really didnt want to go at it with a screwdriver (seems like a crude method and a second person is hard to come by sometimes.

All in all i would love to have the real tool. I would only need it 2 maybe 3 days and then return. Id even put a deposit through paypal and if i take longer than a week you could keep it. It sucks some had to ruin the loaning of the tool through BHR

Looking at the real tool it seemed flimsy and poorly made. It of course does the job but it seems like it would be easily bent/distorted. And for what they sell that thing for ( :rofl: ) I just thought I could make a stronger one for almost nothing.

The only benefit of the OEM one is that it is adjustable to fit different types of fuel pumps in other cars etc.

PM me your cellphone number and I will snap a pic on my phone and text it to you.

ganseg 01-25-2011 05:41 PM

I think it comes down to how hard the individual ones are to unscrew. i bought a tool that was supposed to work - it didn't. I tried to turn it with a wide blade screwdriver - it didn't work. I also read there are some parts you have to replace if you pull the pump...

RotaryResurrection 01-26-2011 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by ganseg (Post 3860309)
I think it comes down to how hard the individual ones are to unscrew. i bought a tool that was supposed to work - it didn't. I tried to turn it with a wide blade screwdriver - it didn't work. I also read there are some parts you have to replace if you pull the pump...

Nothing you have to replace...you simply remove the old one and install the new one. There are a couple of things to disconnect on the pump assembly before pulling it out of the tank, that's it. Getting the retaining ring off is the hard part...once you do that, the swap it about 2-3 minutes worth, then it's back to putting the ring on again.

The rings are on EXCESSIVELY tight in these cars. In fact it seems to be kind of a poor design, compared to fuel pumps in many of the gm vehicles I've replaced, and other 80s/90s import vehicles. Mazda made this way harder than it needed to be. The fuel pump in my denali is retained by a similar metal ring that is held in place by three retaining tabs and two "locking" tabs, and can be removed in about 60 seconds with a single flatblade screwdriver and a few mild taps of a hammer.

bombr 01-30-2011 01:13 PM

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bumblebee, if you're still looking for one you can have my ghetto homemade one if you want. It looks crappy but it works perfect. The ring on mine was ridiculously tight, so instead of smashing it with a hammer I just fired up the welder and made one. I had to put maybe 100 ft-lbs on the wrench to get the ring moving.

bumblebeerx8 01-30-2011 02:24 PM

i ended up making one like RR described. i couldnt get it to turn with just a rachet at first. i had to hit it with a hammer a few times to get it to even start spinning. Thanks everyone though for the help and offers

MazdaManiac 01-30-2011 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection (Post 3859784)
It looks like a 4-legged ugly spider, but it works awesome.

Sounds familiar:

http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/misc/pump_tool.jpg

That is the tool I made back in 2008 to deal with the pump.

That tool used to get lent out (as did the several copies we had made for BHR), but since people started to get lazy about actually returning it and when we asked for a deposit and people balked, we stopped lending them out.

bumblebeerx8 01-30-2011 06:11 PM

yeah that's what Charles said awhile ago about the tool. all these tools look fimilar. i think i built mine for 7 bucks. I had no issue with a deposit but it seemed just as easy to build. I did however have a question and talked to Charles over the phone. I will have to say he is one hell of a Guy. even RR helped with a question over the phone.

VICEdOUT 08-07-2011 08:35 PM

Any of these homemade tools up for sale?

ganseg 08-08-2011 07:10 AM

I have one from a local tool vendor I will sell you. PM me if interested. Thanks.

TeamRX8 08-08-2011 10:30 AM

the cheap auto parts tool worked fine for me, but then some people would probably fail even with the factory tool

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ganseg 08-08-2011 10:48 AM

I tried the screwdriver and mallet idea first and could not budge mine. Then I bought the tool and it was still hard, but after some bloodshed i got it off. So, I agree try the scredriver first, but don't break off too many tabs before getting a tool to help.

VICEdOUT 08-09-2011 11:19 AM

Where did U buy this tool at? And I called Auto Zone, Discount Auto, Carquest and Napa and the dummies all tell me there is no such "Tool".... Could have sworn I've seen it in their Tools for Rent flyer thing in store... I got a new member that PM'd me asking for my address he said he'll give me the tool for free wow some people are really nice out there! Unless someones trying to jack my ride or something lol

VICEdOUT 08-09-2011 11:20 AM

Where can we buy NEW replacement Rings for the fuel pump assembly? You know, the threaded plastic rings that screw in and hold the assembly in.. (lol)

alnielsen 08-09-2011 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by VICEdOUT (Post 4051436)
Where can we buy NEW replacement Rings for the fuel pump assembly? You know, the threaded plastic rings that screw in and hold the assembly in.. (lol)

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=492

The answer is out there. I posted this yesterday. You just have to look around and search.

ganseg 08-09-2011 12:17 PM

I bought mine at Delgard Tool Supply in Minneapolis. It is not as good as a tool with 4 legs, but it did work.

bombr 08-09-2011 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by VICEdOUT (Post 4051435)
Where did U buy this tool at? And I called Auto Zone, Discount Auto, Carquest and Napa and the dummies all tell me there is no such "Tool".... Could have sworn I've seen it in their Tools for Rent flyer thing in store... I got a new member that PM'd me asking for my address he said he'll give me the tool for free wow some people are really nice out there! Unless someones trying to jack my ride or something lol

That was me, I'm just helping a fellow RX8 owner out. Just don't laugh when you get it... it's not meant to be pretty but it works!

VICEdOUT 08-10-2011 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by bombr (Post 4051539)
That was me, I'm just helping a fellow RX8 owner out. Just don't laugh when you get it... it's not meant to be pretty but it works!

Thanks again!

RHx8 08-30-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3865484)
Sounds familiar:

http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/misc/pump_tool.jpg

That is the tool I made back in 2008 to deal with the pump.

That tool used to get lent out (as did the several copies we had made for BHR), but since people started to get lazy about actually returning it and when we asked for a deposit and people balked, we stopped lending them out.





Does any one know the dimensions for this tool?

RHx8 08-30-2012 05:17 PM

do you happen to have the tool still i need one bad :/


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