Truth About Cars - R3 Review
Gave it 5 stars. Comments are normal mix of rotary haters and lovers.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-mazda-rx-r3/ Teaser: And sometimes my socks are completely blown off my feet, like they were last week by a special edition Mazda RX-8, the R3. |
Interesting review and even more interesting comments - thanks for sharing.
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Those comments are rather annoying, most of them, like the reliability ones, are half-truths and a lot of exaggeration.
Great review though |
Which makes the “sporty front bumper” that’s unique to the R3 package look like a demonic Pokemon
HAHAHA |
Exactly "...You take rotary-powered cars to tracks, where a 9,000 rpm redline and humongous usable power band means you can leave the car in third and forget about it ’til you win the race. That’s essentially what I did while carving through some of LA’s best canyons...."
edit: oh, and I already have a urethane filled cross member and know what it is. :) I guess all I need is Bilstein's and 19" rims (I like my present parchment leather seats). |
Originally Posted by Huey52
(Post 2664734)
edit: oh, and I already have a urethane filled cross member and know what it is. :) I guess all I need is Bilstein's and 19" rims (I like my present parchment leather seats).
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'05 I don't even know what that means. ;)
I'm not being negative, rather the RX-8 has stood the test of time thus far quite well.
Originally Posted by dynamho
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Do you have an 09? The rear suspension geometry has been refined in the newer models.
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Originally Posted by Huey52
(Post 2664734)
Exactly "...You take rotary-powered cars to tracks, where a 9,000 rpm redline and humongous usable power band means you can leave the car in third and forget about it ’til you win the race. That’s essentially what I did while carving through some of LA’s best canyons...."
edit: oh, and I already have a urethane filled cross member and know what it is. :) I guess all I need is Bilstein's and 19" rims (I like my present parchment leather seats). Shinkas have Bilsteins as well. Whether they've been re-calibrated on the R3 I don't know... |
that review and comments goes ahead and lets people know that the rx-8 is pretty much a solid car, with the fact that its still not idiot proof
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Great article, comments make me facepalm.
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Those comments are proof that the general public still enforces the reliability issue, whether its true or not. Mazda can't seem to shake it.
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It was a good review as that site rarely gives anything 5 stars. The article "In defense of the RX8" is good also.
The comments about reliability and maintenance are annoying as the commentors provides no facts just opinion. And guarateed they have never been around a rotary powered car in their life. |
I thought the comments about how the rotary "burns oil" is keeping some from buying the car quite humorous. What a bunch of babies. OH NO! I have to check the oil and put in a little bit every 2-3 fill ups! Wah!
Jack holes. |
90% of the people who bashed the Rotary falls into one of the following
1. Lazy 2. V8 freaks 3. Doesn't know anything about Rotary engine *sigh* Read the RGS920's comment. A moron that falls into the Category 3 of the above. |
Originally Posted by LionZoo
(Post 2664810)
I'd say the RX-8 is actually better in canyons than on the track. Canyons place a premium on communicative feedback and predictability, which the RX-8 has in spades.
Shinkas have Bilsteins as well. Whether they've been re-calibrated on the R3 I don't know... |
I'm glad that the general public still think that the Renesis is unreliable... that means less sales, less us... though, that can't be good for Mazda and our resale values. :p:
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Good review... few things kind of got to me though. The "triangular anus" comment and the way he phrased the following:
All RX-8s now come with a brilliant new 1.3-liter RENESIS two-rotor rotary engine Comments are stupid... like "But y’know, apex seals are apex seals. It’s just not a reliable design." That's just like the people who go around saying "diesel? diesel's dirty, loud and was only used in cars because it used to be cheap!" |
Good review thou have to disagree about the "useless" rear seats. The number of times I had to carry 2 or 3 other people or cart about a load of stuff that maxed out the boot. I've even sat in the back when too tired to drive and at 6'1 didn't feel anywhere as cramped as say... the back of a FD. Comfortable might even be the word I'm looking for.
Comments like those really get me going. Really is just a bunch of mis-informed/ ignorant idiots. Oil burn, i get through 1 liter of oil every 2000 miles, better than alot of the piston powered diesil counterparts on the road. As for the engine reliability. Never had a problem in my 3 years of ownership. And I certainly didn't drive about like an old granny. Compaired to a few of the pistons I've owned this rotary is about the most reliable powerplant I've had. |
Very good review.
I wasn't aware that the R3 rode that much harsher than my '05, which is pretty comfortable. |
Originally Posted by nycgps
(Post 2665832)
Shinkas have Tokico ... its a wider one thats all ... Dont ask me how I know you NOOB ! :lol2:
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^hehe, you said wider shaft...
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Yep, Hitachi all the way. ;) And I am considering 19" rims next year.
Originally Posted by nycgps
(Post 2665832)
Shinkas have Tokico ... its a wider one thats all ... Dont ask me how I know you NOOB ! :lol2:
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It is like 1997 reading those comments.
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Good to see the writer knows how to drive!
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"I’m not saying that the RX-8 R3 handles well for a $32k car. I’m saying it handles better than a $320k car. Or, more importantly, whatever you’re driving."
..touché! |
you think we have a chassis?:)
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Everyone's clamoring about the power, but when I take the RX-8 to track days, I'm spanking Audi S4s, Corvettes, Mustang GTs, Pontiac Firebirds, STIs and other high horsepower cars through just pure handling.
The more power you have, the less likely your talent will save you. It also takes serious balls to drive a 400HP Corvette at its limit. One owner of such a vette admitted to me that he was only driving in 3rd gear throughout the track at Autobahn. What? It's no fun to be scared all the time while on the track. I have the balls to chuck the RX-8 into a corner because I *know* I don't have the power to wreak havoc on myself. A 400~500HP car? Hell, I don't even know if I'd have the balls to go full throttle down the straights lest the brakes overheat when I get to the braking zone. |
You're spanking those cars because you're a better driver, and/or have a better setup car, and/or more than likely have less fear of disaster due to the 1st two reasons :)
The interest in more power comes from different experiences, but the one I often have is on track. It goes like this... In adv int or adv group there are often GT2s, Porsche Turbos, Corvettes, race-stripped BMWs, etc., etc. Everyone generally know how to drive reasonably well. Sure everything is fine and lots of fun in the corners, but upon entering a straight, and offering a pointby, I'm either flat out in 2nd, or more often third, or even fourth....the gear is really immaterial ... and one or more of those cars will simply fly by with a quick tap on their accelerator so fast I might as well be standing still. Meanwhile I'm left still trying to force the accelerator further into the floorboards! Going fast in a straight doesn't take much talent, only enough to keep you straight. Nevertheless the result is the same, the other guy is already braking and heading into the next curve. Not that there is anything wrong with that scenario, and I'm not really complaining about the car. It is what it is and that's damn good! I'm just stating fact and the reason for the calls for better power. My five year old $30K car does just fine even being on the track with the likes of some major performance cars that cost upwards of 80-100K+, but that does not diminish the wish for a bit more in the getup-and-go dept and STILL be able to drive a production rotary engine car. |
Yes, it is indeed perhaps due to driving talent, or Mazda's wonderful setup (only "setup" I had was a MazdaSpeed wing on 15 degree angle).
But my point was that it's *easier* to drive a low horsepower/torque car fast like the RX-8 than a high horsepower/torque car like a Corvette. That, and you develop your talent far faster because you can't fix your errors with the throttle (and you're not being scared to death all the time, and can focus). |
Originally Posted by nycgps
(Post 2665831)
90% of the people who bashed the Rotary falls into one of the following
1. Lazy 2. V8 freaks 3. Doesn't know anything about Rotary engine About the article, that was a good read and worthy of quoting in the future. Demonic pokemon... hahaha yes, I suppose that's true lol |
Although it was a good review of the R3, I think there was a lot of false information. All in all that review dissappoints me. Mazdas whole claim is a 4 door 4 seat practicle sports car and the dude bashed it in one sentence!
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I’m not saying that the RX-8 R3 handles well for a $32k car. I’m saying it handles better than a $320k car. Or, more importantly, whatever you’re driving.
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Originally Posted by alz0rz
(Post 2694372)
I’m not saying that the RX-8 R3 handles well for a $32k car. I’m saying it handles better than a $320k car. Or, more importantly, whatever you’re driving.
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