Agreed.

I think the plastic is terrible and the look is horrible, as well.


Also, my 8 = rattle free on some shitty ass roads, too.

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Celica? Are you kidding me? Those things handle about the same as my Sunfire :icon_no2:

S2000s need $1000 on geometry corrections before they will handle right. Then they need KPro to not be completely aggravating to drive.
Tire fits are goofy. Then you still have the problem of only really expensive wheels working well, and no clearance for big brakes if that matters to you.
A lot of guys start to get cramps in their right cheek after a couple hours in the seats.
Stock, it's so frustrating I've actually chosen to take the 14 instead of Angeles Forest.

RX-8:
No geometry corrections needed. Omnivorous with respect to tires. In spite of all the jokers who insist on getting it wrong, the 8 is really easy to put wheels on.
Vastly more practical and only 100 lb. or so more, if you buy the right one.
Seductive on good roads.
More expensive for me to insure than a C5 Z06. Mazda parts pricing suxx.

At risk of being banned, the RX-8 would be nearly perfect if it wasn't for the Renesis. 2.3L MZR turbo FTW. Are you listening, Mazda?

Oh, yeah. Last-gen Celica GT-S handled awesome until the OE shocks were gone at 5000 miles.

That suxxx....angeles forest going into san bernadino national forest is one of my favorite local drives:)

The other thing I noticed from that poll was the Skodas. Every model in the top ten. When I was in Eupope last summer I saw them all over Hungary and thought "That's a nice looking car for what it is." I'm amazed it's rated that high though. Must be because they're VW's with reasonable price tags.

hmm the only thing that rattles in my car is the windsheild i dont know why.. its like on the upper driver side.. n when i press on the windsheild it dissappears... i never hear it when i haev the music up but wheni turn it down i can hear it gerts annoying but it fluctuates.. somedays its there others its not..

i took it to the dealer n they didnt hear anything.. driving home the noise completely went away.. week later its back =[

mazda said it was probably due to the windsheild being cracked..

I don't have any rattles in my car.

That must be really nice. I'm dealing with mine 1 at a time and there are a lot. I'm getting there though...

No doubt. Same type of shit is said about the 8 winning pretty much every 350Z, Audi TT, Stang GT, G35, s2000, comparison test in every major car magazine. It won for a reason, just like the 8 won all of those comparison tests for a reason. Yes i now everyone is entitled to their opinions but dang:) Dont have to bash the lil fella.