Well, it looks like they finally did it. I was waiting for this. Now I just have to wait a little longer and I can purchase a FI RX-8.

Ill take two.

i'll have some fries with that ^

You said t I didn't!! ;)

-Bern

Well... you were looking at a blown something, but that it was for this particular program, I know not. I will say, and I'm quite surprised, that many didn't see, or pay attention to, the pics of this car up on the board at the SevenStock Racing Beat open house. There were a few shots of this car in plain site! Right in front of everyones faces!!

-Bern

I wasn't allowed to take pics or speak about it... on the request of my Mazda friends. :)

-Bern

Proof of what?? ;) See my previous post.

The R&T article will have as much information as Mazda wants to let out on this ride. Again, this program (vehicle) is still only a concept study.

My guess... +/-300 hp

-Bern

What on earth is this to do with MazdaSpeed? :eek:

Another supercharger story...

Subscribed to thread. I'm pretty sure, that if this comes out, Mazdaspeed will probably offer a retro-fit kit. It was offered for the Protege, in that you could get all the components of the Mazdaspeed Turbo kit designed by Callaway. Now I will say this: the Mazdaspeed Kit for the Protege was nothing compared to what several aftermarket tuners turned out. In other words, I'd be more interested in alternative options, however, you most likely will be able to have one installed by the dealer, and retain factory warranty. The same is true for Mazdaspeed Miata parts.

I'd be willing to bet that even if Mazda doesn't offer a retro-fit kit, the aftermarket tuners will eventually get their hands on one, and if nothing else, improve its design. There are several Proteges running turbos from flyinprotege.com and hiboost.com that will blow the doors off any factory tuned Protege.

will this mean that there will be an engine management system already set up to take care of the FI? so if they do offer it as a kit, i'll have to replace my ecu as well?

wow..........................this car looks so good! i cant wait to see it in person.

lock they are aware- there is a story about it on the rotarynews site;)

Zoom44, Rotarygod, Ajax, Kari, Icemastr, TheDosDog

We should have snooped harder while at Racing Beat that wonderful day - it seems that there was a lot more treasure to be found out there than we knew about. That engine on the porting bench MUST have been one that Jim was testing to see what kind of boost the 13B could take for this project.

if it comes out for an 06 release, im trading in. forget a kit!

so that's what you hinted about in the 7 stock section thread? this one?

M12 who are you? Your Join Date: 10-15-2004 - the same day as this new thread post, and it is still your only post.... Are you a secret agent man? Maybe you look like this: :cool:

it wouldnt surprise me that racing beat had pictures. Like i said, the car's front end is very racing beat and yes, they did mention blowing up an engine while supercharging. They couldn't give us any details on it either.
I do remember asking the younger guy who was running the engine dyno what the output was at when it blew was and he said he didnt know off hand but that it ran fine at 280+ hp. I dont know if he slipped up saying that, but who knows.

Very perceptive. Also, that side view pic that was posted by M12 can’t be found on the Road&Track teaser page for SPEED, but seems to be the property of R&T. Hmmm... was this story leaked to us on purpose?

If Mazda is reading this, here’s my wish list for a US-spec Mazdaspeed RX-8:

- Make it fast (~300 hp+), so the RX-8 will take a back seat to nobody. But make it reliable please (not another FD)!
- Keep the weight as is, or even lessen it if possible. Don’t lose that lightweight feeling!
- Love the body kit on the white prototype and the hood scoop is cool! Fog light treatment needs a little work.
- Prefer a head light treatment like the Ferrari 360 Modena with a body colored backing. Don’t care for the black out look. But smoked covers on the rear lights would be cool.
- Don’t need to mention the handling, ‘cause I know Mazda/Mazdaspeed will get that right.
- Would like to see a racier interior with Mazdaspeed bucket seats and carbon fiber trim. Would also like to see a more snazzy Mazdaspeed shift knob, the current one is so plain & boring.
- Oh, and one last thing, bring back a special edition yellow color for this car, so I can trade mine in. :D

If you build it, they will come...

M12...hmmm... M12 is a cluster of stars in the galaxy, Noble makes an M12 gto super car, m12 is also a multimedia educational program but what M12 is not is telling us more about this RX8 and its pandoras box of treasures. pictures are linked to road and track so this person must work for them, probably having a good time watching all our posts squirming around speculating answers to our own questions, c'mon this is almost like going to a strip club..nothing but teaser's not any pleezer's.

thank you! :p kevin!! :D

well it's not a leak per se since it is up on their website, more of a heads up from the inside:) you know i looked around for the second pic and cant find it except here;)

well there's this one place, where this one girl.......... :eek:

I don't buy this Bullshit...



















NOT! Damn! Finally a "coming up" thread that gets us all excited without the flamers throwing torches! Woohoo! I actually like that kit better than the current MS kit. And that scoop, well it's not clear, but how is it opening? I remember there was a thread here that was collecting for new hood scoop designs. Would this scoop be for an intercooler a la STi? or an intake?

Big smile! :D :D :D

:d

what if it doesn't have a back seat at all :eek:

C - It's also linked from R&T:

http://roadandtrack.com/assets/image/10152004105747.jpg

Then they might as well go all the way and introduce a pure sports 4th gen RX-7 or call it RX-9. Would be pretty lame having the rear free style doors without back seats. But I want a Mazdaspeed RX-8 to be an RX-8, and that means rear seats to me.

You betcha! :D

And I like the rear spoiler/wing better than the current one to... looks to be a good compromise between the factory spoiler/wing (which I like pretty well) and the current MS one.

Why? It's staying on top all on it's own...

***DROOL***

One thing to say...
 

Wooohooo!!!

Of course they are!

was this on the board that showed the various development-stage RB body kits?

I don't think it looks at all like the Racing Beat kit. It looks more like an evolution of the Mazdaspeed RX-8 front bumper with a touch of the old face lifted '99-'02 RX-7 mixed in.

well damn we all looked at the board with the focus group pics!! with the various designs for body kits. we remarked about how the final design and one or 2 of the others looked as if they COULD BE THE NEXT evolution "STOCK" body style.

which just didnt make the leap

i want it

See it now?

Nope, sorry I don't. Heck, I can photoshop my own front bumper to make it look like that too, that's cheating. Anyway, the RB bumper has a sharper squared off edge to the front nose, while the white prototype seems to have a softer more rounded edge. IMHO, I believe the body kit is a US Mazda/Mazdaspeed design. If anything, Mazda is probably getting RB's help with the supercharger testing.

I dunno. We saw the RB bumper first hand at RB and it was very smooth. They also noted that it may not be the final design. I see the resemblance but mostly it's because i've seen it firsthand and know how the edges actually looked.

That doesnt look like a new spoiler. It looks like the MS spoiler at its highest setting. I just set mine up like that. Its to dark to take pics outside, but ill take pics tomorrow.

Haha....secret agent. Sorry, I have no connection to Road and Track or Mazda.
Im just waiting for the next car that will meet my requirements and I would like that car to be the Mazdaspeed RX-8. I was just browsing the internet and found something that might be the mazdaspeed rx-8 but I guess it might not be.

I guess we will find out on Oct 26 ( or hope we can get more information prior to that *cough*Bern*Cough*).

-M12
Possibly Future Mazda RX-8 Nut. :D

I sir am forever in your debt.

Hmmm... Just a thought that the RX-8 fetured in that article is supercharged, wonder if they are working off of the factory ECU but just fine tuned it. Makes me wonder if all of the problems that aftermarket companies are having with the ECU is do to Mazda intentionally making the ECU hard to alter so people would have a tough time cracking at it? If someone doesn't perfect the ECU soon I might think about selling mine and getting that 8 in the article. I love the 8, but my preference is more power. We'll have to see what that article has to say about the engine management.

Here is a pic the my MS spoiler on the high setting.

You could be right. Hard to say, because the photos of the white car are so small.

But the wing looks to be a slightly different shape with the sides tapering down a bit more than the current MS one. From this front shot, to my eye, it looks a little more square-ish compared to the current MS or factory wing.

I guess we'll all have to wait for this next issue of R&T's SPEED magazine to find out.

no need to sell yours, the real value in a OEM FI model is that the aftermarket can reverse engineer the ECU, or hell just buy the MS ECU and retune the car that way. What I want to know is what was done if anything to the engine, such as seal upgrades, etc....

That's true brillo I really didn't even think of it that way.

The article doesn't matter much to me because it'll be at least another year until it comes out and I can't wait that damn long.

So, they said it beat a 350z on track (which I've read that stock can do that) but a new Porsche boxster S, 0-60 in 5.2 I wonder how well the handling is on the box compared to the mazspd 8.

Pretty impressive to say the least, I hope it hits the states in a nice quantity sometime soon. :)

Willow Springs is in the US. This is a Mazda North American Operations car.

must... resist.... doh! NICE! my wallet's gonna take a beating once this hits production...