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zoom44 11-07-2007 11:47 AM

Mazda to RG- Hydrogen is coming !!!
 
I like poking at Fred everytime a new Hydrogen step is taken:)

This Time Mazda and Norway have gotten together to furthur advance Norways HYNor Hydrogen Highway. When they innaugurated the new effort 2 years ago Mazda was on hand in Norway with the First HRX-8 to run outside of Japan. It filled up at the newest Hydrogen filling station in Norway-

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/blog/...rogen-car.html

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...12#post1460100

there is a video of it ill find later

Now Hynor has placed an order for 30 Hydrogen 8s!!

http://www.fullboost.com.au/news.php?newsId=1638

People say "there's no infrastructure for H" etc. Well Norway is building it in their country and with the help of Mazda and the Rotary they will have cars to drive on their Hydrogen Highway :)

Razz1 11-07-2007 11:52 AM

Good news. Now where is the USA?

Oh I forgot... we like to drive gas gizzling SUV's that pollute more than cars.

zoom44 11-07-2007 11:53 AM

oh here is the vid from last year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZUv9...elated&search=

from this thread

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...80#post1704983

ZoomZoomH 11-07-2007 11:57 AM

Kenya will pee on Norway all day.

saturn 11-07-2007 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Razz1 (Post 2129773)
Good news. Now where is the USA?

Oh I forgot... we like to drive gas gizzling SUV's that pollute more than cars.

Says the man whose car gets worse gas mileage than certain SUVs.

Jedi54 11-07-2007 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by saturn (Post 2129793)
Says the man whose car gets worse gas mileage than certain SUVs.

I was waiting for that. :lol:

Zoom: do you know if there's any plans to eventually bring the hydrogen state-side?

VarneyMazda 11-07-2007 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Razz1 (Post 2129773)
Good news. Now where is the USA?

Oh I forgot... we like to drive gas gizzling SUV's that pollute more than cars.

your an idiot.. most of gm's suvs and trucks get better gas mileage then the rx8's

the pollution index of a gmc 1500 5.3L truck is the same as a mazda 3

read some before you open your mouth

Jedi54 11-07-2007 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by VarneyMazda (Post 2129832)
your an idiot.. most of gm's suvs and trucks get better gas mileage then the rx8's

the pollution index of a gmc 1500 5.3L truck is the same as a mazda 3

read some before you open your mouth

much anger I sense in you. Now back on topic...
Any time frame as to how long before those 30 Hydrogen 8's show up?

tajabaho1 11-07-2007 01:14 PM

innntresting, its not like we need more power anyways

but this is good, finally, a rotary that gets good milage!

DemonRX-8 11-07-2007 01:34 PM

Good mileage? Um, no. Given hydrogen inherent lower engergy density and the rotary engines thirsty nature this thing will get horrible mileage. With a whopping range of 60 miles you'd have to refuel 5 times just to make it down the full length of this 350 mile hydrogen highway. But who cares, hydrogen's free, right?

globi 11-07-2007 03:54 PM

There's a niche market for anything.

Norway is actually one of the only countries in the world, where they produce hydrogen with electrolysis and excess hydro-power. (I don't know of any other regions in the world where they have similar luxuries).

P00Man 11-07-2007 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by VarneyMazda (Post 2129832)
your an idiot.. most of gm's suvs and trucks get better gas mileage then the rx8's

the pollution index of a gmc 1500 5.3L truck is the same as a mazda 3

read some before you open your mouth


Right on.
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Uruguayan Cooking

mtrevino 11-08-2007 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 2129776)


Awesome, from a thread I started a while back... here's a second follow up video of the Hydrogen RX-8... with some in-car shots and sound (hard to tell if it's running on gas or hydro)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBcZsGsWsMA

michael

rotarygod 11-08-2007 09:22 AM

I don't care what sub zero scandanavian country it's going to. It's still a crap fuel! You CAN NOT change that!!! Quit trying to make piss poor excuses for justifying crap. It burns too fast to be useful. Propane would be a much better choice if you want to use a gas. If Mazda builds an engine that runs on dog shit and crack and then places the infrastructure in service to allow it, but it makes a fraction of the power that gas does, would you use it too?

Hydrogen is terribly inefficient. You can't make anywhere near the power of other fuels with it and it takes far more of it to go the same distance. All while being weaker. It's a pain in the butt to store too. If the only thing it's got going in it's favor is emissions, that's not close to enough. That's not worth it. Car emissions are not heating up the planet anyways.

Back to hugging your tree...

zoom44 11-08-2007 10:11 AM

jedi norway will take delivery next summer.


hehehehe rg

rotarygod 11-08-2007 10:15 AM

:) You do know that was said in a friendly way right?!

zoom44 11-08-2007 10:20 AM

yeah thats why i laughed:)

chetrickerman 11-08-2007 10:24 AM

i vote propane!!!

rotarygod 11-08-2007 10:26 AM

You guys may find this funny but I have actually pondered converting my RX-7 to propane for a while now. It would lose a small amount of power (but not nearly as much as hydrogen!). It doesn't mean I'll do it but I've researched it. Why? Just because I haven't done it yet. That's reason enough I guess.

brillo 11-08-2007 10:42 AM

Hydrogen as a car fuel is certainly doable, its just got really terrible energy content compared to gas or diesel fuel, which means that it will have less power and require more fuel volume to get you the same distance.

If we could generate hydrogen for free, such as with a fusion reactor, hydroden would make alot of sense, but until that point, hydrogen is mazda's E85. It makes you feel green and fuzy, but does nothing practical to help the environment or reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

DARKMAZ8 11-08-2007 10:59 AM

I'm waiting for my flinstone powered 8..........

http://www.seeing-stars.com/Images/P...lintstones.jpg

kinda like this idea, only picture it in the 8!!!:)

rotarygod 11-08-2007 11:31 AM

It would be more efficient! Too bad the environmentalists would complain about the CO2 output from heavy breathing!

solo8 11-08-2007 11:51 AM

Nuclear baby! That'll get you some energy from Hydrogen!! :)

rotarygod 11-08-2007 11:55 AM

They don't want you to do that either. Radiation danger not to mention the potential for a weapon. You can't win at this game. No matter what you do, it's not a good solution. The only viable option is for all of us to die.

There are 2 types of people, those who pollute and those who don't. I have yet to find the latter anywhere. No, carbon credits don't offset a thing! That's just financial justification for polluting!

zoom44 11-08-2007 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by brillo (Post 2131521)

If we could generate hydrogen for free, such as with a fusion reactor, hydroden would make alot of sense, but until that point, hydrogen is mazda's E85. It makes you feel green and fuzy, but does nothing practical to help the environment or reduce our dependence on foreign oil.


wrong- if i was using one of hondas "reformer's on a wall" http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...10_tokyo_tech/

i could be filling up my hydrogen rx-8 or Mazda5 at my house while heating the water for said house or even heating the house and with the help of a fuel cell even making electricity for said house without using any foreign petroleum whatsoever- just the NG already plumbed to my house


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