Car and Driver rx-8 turbo blurb
 

This months Car and Driver has a small article stating that Mazda is working on a higher power version of the 8 and that it will use an electrically assisted turbo ala hydrogen 8, so that it can meet emission. Said to expect to see it at the 05 Tokyo show.

Sorry if this is a repost.

Question:

What month is the 2005 Tokyo Auto Show?

HINTS OF WHATS TO COME FOR THE 8
 

DSPORT MAG HAS A SIMILAR ARTICLE THAT SPEAKS OF THE UNLEASHING THE POWER OF THE 8 VIA THE CPU. IT WILL ENHANCE THE PERFORMANCE GRATLY!! BE ONE THE LOOK OUT FOR MORE DETAILS.

Tokyo Motor Show
 

Wow.
This really blows.

If the latest issue of Car & Driver is correct about the new RX-8 not debuting until the Biennual Tokyo Motor Show, we are talking about OCTOBER OF 2005 here!

Damn!

I just got a return phone call back from a gal at MazdaSpeed in Los Angeles telling me that "yes", it is true that the 2005 Tokyo Motor Show is not until OCTOBER of 2005, and that "no" it is not cut in stone yet that there will be an electric turbo on the RX8 that debuts at that time, as the recent issue of Car & Driver states.

I'll be back with another report on this, after the weekend.

they may just come out with a suprise at the january auto in japan or Detroit mazda is know for doing that . they did it with the miata and the mazda3 .

J-Apex
 

I hope you are right!
I will be speaking with a sales manager that chats with a senior "operational" rep for Mazda of North America sometime this next week . . . Hope to learn more. Stay tuned!

Saw the blurb also today. Gonna sticky this and likely move it to Tech Garage when the details get leaked. ;)

i doubt we can trust anything mazda says in response right now. nevertheless, that electric turbo would be real cool. and even if it does debut in october 2005, it wouldn't really be that late as far as the car's life cycle is concerned...it'd just suck for us to wait that long

fritts

wats up
 

hey how r yaa

Doesn't is suck when you are wrong Lemans? As I recall the last time I read a post of yours you swore up and down that the 05' 8 would have turbo in excess of 300 hp and few other ridiculous options. You were also ofended by the name "dude" when I responded that you were wrong about what I see were now assumptions about the up and coming 8. So this one's of for you; sucks to be you and be wrong at the same time dude!

For all of you that don't know what I'm talkign about just look up one of his previous posts. He has the bad habit of posting things which he dreams of apparently and then claims he spoke to a some rep .

Yo, Duuuuuuuuuude.

The Mazda rep still stands by what he said to me earlier, and the gals that answer the phone at Mazdaspeed aren't really known for going out on a limb and stating anything specific. If you want to believe Car & Driver . . . be my guest.

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Do I sense a flame war coming?

Yeah, I guess I was totally WRONG about the Mazdaspeed 6 coming out towards the end of this year, complete with All-Wheel drive and 280 HP too!

:p

As for the "turbocharged/supercharged" RX-8, I guess I was wrong about that too, or did I not read the blurb from the recent issue of CAR & DRIVER correctly???

Go figure!

There was a Mazda Dealer's Meeting held today in San Francisco. Perhaps there will be some new info on coming models.

Stay tuned.

http://www.modernracer.com/spyshots/spyshots2.html

Scroll down towards the bottom of page, just after the Elise.

Hearing that the 2005 Mazdaspeed 6 will be availible at your dealer ths coming November with a 2.3 liter turbocharged engine, 280 HP, AWD with 18" Racing Harts.

Rumor has it that an official announcement will be in early September.

WHY get the 8 when you can get that.... idiots mazda they shoulda brought out the 8s first!

I just got the July Car & Driver and it says...

A new member of the rotary club

Mazda is working on a more powerful RX-8 that will boast a newly developed electrically assisted turbo-charger. The electrical turbo was chosen over a solely exhaust gas driven turbo becuase the electrical unit is able to meet increasingly stringent emissions regulations. Mazda plans to unveil the turbo RX-8 at the Biennail Tokyo show in 2005.

Paulie, isn't that what the very first post on this thread said?

Where have you been, buddy?

:D

LOL^^^

Sorry guys . . .

But there is no news from the latest dealer meeting in San Francisco, and my "contact" at Mazda of North America has totally "buttoned-up" when it comes to talking about the RX-8.

He'll talk about the delivery date for the Mazdaspeed 6, and the specs of the 6, but when it comes to the RX-8 . . . he dummies up.

Looks like Mazda might be afraid to "tip their hand" too early in regards to the competition.

so what're the real specs of the mazdaspeed 6?

so can we take their tight lipped-ness to mean that something is indeed up their sleeves in regards to a hotted version of the 8?

OK back to the thread. If it happens hope it will be a retrofit as well!

LOL. Yep, sure does doesn't it. Call me lazy. I didn't read the first post. How the heck did he get the July issue on 6/4 when I just got it yesterday?

Paulie, no problem!

I always get my Car & Driver issue WAAAAYY later in the mail, than what comes out on the newstand.

It's almost as if the guys in the main postal distribution center are hanging out reading my issue and don't put it back into the "flow of things" until they AND their buddies are finished reading it!

:mad:

you guys, i was reading about 7's and 8's when i came upon a site that was explaing a rumor of the next RX-7. they stated that the 7 will have a single turbo 3 rotor that pushed 320hp and that it will have 6 trim levels: Base, Touring, Enthusiast, R1, R2, and a street legal 430hp R3. of course i dont buy it but it would be nice to dream that the next 7 will be a turbo 3 rotor!!!

oh and for those who dont know much about the history of rotary cars and dont do their home work or pay attention:...the rx-8 is not a successor to the rx-7, the rx-7 is a pure sports car, while the 8 is a SPORTS SEDAN. the rx-7 will come but not for a few years .

i forgot the site but they are probably just speculating and telling their dreams of the 4th generation 7.

oh and for those who think that the first generation 7's 79-85 chassis code is FA3S and FB3S YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG. the code for 1st gens is only SA22C. the only reason why the 2nd and 3rd are similar is because the 3rd gens chassis is a revised and made more capable but still have body lines from previous generations.

Can anyone speculate as to whether it would be available as a retrofit or not?

This was also in Road & Track a couple of months ago.

and remember, its an electrically assisted turbo...not an electric turbo (big difference).

well you could 'retrofit' anything. (with money ;) )

But there will likely be many big differences, which might make it more expensive than an aftermarket setup (which genreally puts out more power)...

why is this a sticky???

Wishful thinking maybe? :p

I sas just browsing through a mag rack ond day and noticed a lesser known "05 preview" of an RX-7!!!! They reported that the Turbo charging will go in that car. It looks like our beloved 8 with only 2 doors. I'll get the name of the magzine on my next fly by...

When completing the financials of my car this past sat. My salesman had mentioned some details he had gathered at a conference he was at in ohio this past fri (the day before) Anyway, my memory is real sketchy on this but since you guys are so interested here goes what I can remember. (Keep in mind, dates are the most sketchy)

1st - Mazda will release a MS 6 or 3 (I can't remember)
2nd - (2006?)Mazda will release a RX-7 convertible. (It will be an 8 without the rear doors, they'll be solid, thus making a 2 door convertible. Further, this appears to be the ONLY Rx-7, if that's what they'll call it, that will be released. No Coupe.)
3rd - (2008?)Mazda will release a supercharged RX-8, MS edition? The superchager is supposed to have something to do with oil....oil cooled, oil driven? Not sure. The salesman was talking about it being oil driven. He wasn't at all sure how, really couldn't even fathom, but he said they told him something along the lines of oil driven since they didn't want to sacrafice any more torque from the already low torque on the engine.

Oh, and he said no 3 rotor design b/c there is not enough room for a 3 rotor.

Now, that said, before you guys go shooting down my salesman, keep in mind, I trust him, and he doesn't BS. He's a good school buddy of my uncle, so he's not blowing smoke up my a**. Besides that, he prefaced himself in saying he himself wasn't sure, but this is what he was told at the conference. Also keep in mind, he knows a thing or 2 about these cars, he's been selling them for something like 13 year and ownes an 8 himself. So...take the above info as you will, but keep in mind, its already prefaced with the fact that this is what he's been told, and is not to be a difinative source of what is for sure....

get the man a screenname and get him on here!!

Well acousta racing didn't have any problems fitting 20b 3 rotor engine in the rx8, so mazda shouldn't either. Unless they have a different engine...

Fitment isn't a problem, but usefulness is. :confused:

But we have to step back into the peripheral port, because you can't do a side port on the center of a 3 rotor. I don't know how not having a side port in the center but having one on both sides would affect things... Seems weird. Probably possible, but weird.

Yes you can. The 20B is a side-port engine. By side-port, it just means the ports are relocated to the side, and intermediate housings. :)

http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/images/pg20_05b.jpg