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Red Rex 09-01-2010 10:55 AM

The C6 shares a lot in common with the C5 (which was a COMPLETE over-haul from the old C4). GM retained it in the C6 because, well, it works. The C5 chassis was insanely future-proof when it came out. Thats why even an old C5 Z06 still rapes 98% of anything you'll find on the street today and holds its own against cars much newer on the track. The aftermarket is insane for a Corvette and its disgusting how easy and cheap it is to get them to go faster. GM really is IMO the top pioneer for street car performance. The suspension is so good that Ferrari bought the magnetic ride control feature from GM. Take a C6 Z around a long bend and prepare to be amazed. Other car companies say their sports cars have "unmatched handling", but the fact that GM had to install a dry sump oil system on the Z speaks for itself. The C7 is going to have some big shoes to fill.

04Green 09-01-2010 12:15 PM

Hm,

What if you took the $32K 8, spent $35K on upgrades, then went after the Boxster or Lotus....

Problem will being figuring out how to spend $35K. Supercharger, suspension, still got to figure out how to spend $15K.... Rocket launcher? Laser Beams? A separate track car?

Spin9k 09-01-2010 12:24 PM

^ good one! Take the $, turn as many body panels into CF, loose as much weight as possible, and any power upgrades with the leftover $$ would just be icing on the cake. Weight rules for handling and speed, even NA.

ASH8 09-01-2010 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 3695927)
Not uprated over a Shinka. ;)

Sorry again, Yes it is...

S2 has larger Rear Suspension Link Rods with a slight change in geometry, different Differential Mount, Shocks, Springs and Top Mounts, diff rear stabilizer, plus more welding in body joins.

Front has different Shocks,Springs and Top mounts, different strut brace, stabilizers, steering knuckles...

paulmasoner 09-01-2010 03:02 PM

^^pwnd

ASH8 09-01-2010 03:03 PM

Video Link (page 1) is down..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPik0UKVCkI

Are-Ex-Eight 09-01-2010 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 3696199)
I never cease to be impressed with that very high tech (and very expensive) magnetic-activated fluid used in the ZR1 suspension.

you can find that in 20k suv's now btw

Red Rex 09-01-2010 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Are-Ex-Eight (Post 3696937)
you can find that in 20k suv's now btw

A cheap knock-off version maybe. And even then you realize that its a lot easier and cheaper to reverse-engineer someone else's technology?

Razz1 09-01-2010 11:30 PM

I like the shorts in that video with the racing loves.

Just the right touch.

And a S1 with correct setup kicks ass over any S2.

It out brakes it and out accerates it srock let alone any mods.......

california style 09-02-2010 02:48 AM

at Rotorstock in the UK. The fastest 2 Rx8s on the sprint track were series 1.

However I was supercharged and the other one had slicks on!
Then it was 2 R3s.
Then more series 1. So it seems the R3 set up does help it in the bends.

On the drag strip, stock series1 cars pwned the R3s. I would have thought the other way round but maybe the different gear box setup wasn't that helpful, or the series 1 cars were happier thrashing them down the strip!

dmp 09-02-2010 07:01 AM

Folks who spent money on a R3 NEED the R3 to be "better".

Psylence 09-02-2010 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by dmp (Post 3697525)
Folks who spent money on a R3 NEED the R3 to be "better".

And this is different for S1 people how? Good lord :wallbash:

My new R3 was cheaper than your new S1 :p:

Vlaze 09-02-2010 08:53 AM

As if the 8 fanbois don't get enough flack for debating comparisons against other cars, now the different series owners gotta flack each other..too funny :rofl:

dmp 09-02-2010 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Psylence (Post 3697585)
And this is different for S1 people how? Good lord :wallbash:

My new R3 was cheaper than your new S1 :p:

First off - the fact you differentiate between "series" of rx8s is silly.


Secondly - you have no idea how much I paid.

AND....you can't install strakes. :p

:D

04Green 09-02-2010 09:28 AM

And, strakes are good for 3 HP each....

Psylence 09-02-2010 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by dmp (Post 3697606)
First off - the fact you differentiate between "series" of rx8s is silly.


Secondly - you have no idea how much I paid.

AND....you can't install strakes. :p

:D

http://captionsearch.com/pix/t1gb4klq3.jpg

I love my R3... and it cost me a LOT less than my new S1 did.

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/065/05...gif?1281548464

Red Rex 09-02-2010 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by 04Green (Post 3697623)
And, strakes are good for 3 HP each....

AND redirect air to the oil coolers resulting in a 20 degree drop in oil temp :SHOCKED:

Detrich 09-02-2010 02:14 PM

we rock! :)

dmp 09-02-2010 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Psylence (Post 3697633)

You like to penis-measure.

It's surprising to see the RX8 do so well, especially due to the fact Mazda never? advertises the car.

Psylence 09-02-2010 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by dmp (Post 3698264)
You like to penis-measure.

It's surprising to see the RX8 do so well, especially due to the fact Mazda never? advertises the car.

You are a very strange person.. assumptions from the start, and a very pleasant attitude.

/ignore

Roidz 09-02-2010 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Are-Ex-Eight (Post 3695530)
lol i see you have never driven one.

over hyped - no

its an 80k car that performs like a 200k car on a v6 platform


oh and its got four seats.....the z06 sucks balls in comparison

I may be a huge corvette fan so I may seem biased, but for you to say that the corvette 'sucks balls' in comparison you lose a lot of credibility with that one statement. Even IF the gt-r did outperform the z06 it wouldn't be by much, so to say it sucks balls is just stupid.

RotaryMachineRx 09-02-2010 08:17 PM

S2's are sexy as hell... although the only reason I wouldn't buy one is the lack of an aftermarket turbo setup and the AP

Mawnee 09-02-2010 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Roidz24 (Post 3698597)
I may be a huge corvette fan so I may seem biased, but for you to say that the corvette 'sucks balls' in comparison you lose a lot of credibility with that one statement. Even IF the gt-r did outperform the z06 it wouldn't be by much, so to say it sucks balls is just stupid.

Nürburgring lap times(wiki):
7:25.7-------Ferrari Enzo
7:26.4-------Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1
7:26.7-------Nissan GT-R
7:42.99------Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
7:55----------Ferrari F430 F1
7:56----------Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06
7:56----------Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale f1
7:59----------Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z51
8:11----------Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX
8:26----------Nissan 350Z
8:39----------Mazda MAZDASPEED3 (Mazda3 MPS)
8:40----------Chevrolet Corvette C5


My 7 year old Z06 sits pretty well in there :)

Spin9k 09-02-2010 10:23 PM

Just for reference ... I found the RX-8 here http://www.strikeengine.com/car-stat...ockenheim.html

at 8:39:28

Mawnee 09-02-2010 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Spin9k (Post 3698754)
Just for reference ... I found the RX-8 here http://www.strikeengine.com/car-stat...ockenheim.html

at 8:39:28

Thanks, I was looking for that :) Thats cool, puts it right there with the regular c5 vette. Thats impressive considering the HP difference! :ylsuper:


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