Roland51

When will there be another new Mazda RX-8 or RX-xx?

RIWWP

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There are numerous threads in the Media and General Automotive section with every possible rumor discussed to death.

The short answer is, no one knows. The RX-8 has ceased production, and that's about the only "for sure" that people know.

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nycgps

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Rx-8 is Still in production dude

just not being "imported" into the US.

they're making another 1000 Spirit-R right now

Sycoa

I read somewhere that the shinari concept was a good indication ofthe next rotary, could have sworn I read somewhere that the 2013 6 is getting that concept, so who knows. If they don't make another I could settle for a shinari, that car looks amazing.

RIWWP

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The Shinari is/was purely a design language concept. Trying to tie it to a new rotary is roughly the same as assuming that the person wearing a given shirt must have a certain heart condition. The CX-5 is the first production vehicle that uses this design language.

That being said, there are numerous shapes throughout the design which mimic or mirror the shape or curve of a rotor, so yes, there is a subtle reinforcement of Mazda's faith in the rotary, which coupled with their public acknowledgement that they are working on a Sky-R, gives me faith that the rotary is not actually dead.

And the next Mazda6 will have a skin that isn't that great of a variation from the Shinari, but there will be differences.

zoom44

its may be subtle to some but not so much to others. the man, Ikuo Maeda who designed the Shinari is the son pf the man, Matasaburo Maeda, who designed the first generation RX-7. Maeda-san has been very public about his wish to create a new one.

Sycoa

Well, there you have it, RWWIP schooled me! Either way, reading up online articles. Leads one to belive that mazda will make another rotary, and there will be a market for itdoesnt have such a liking to fuel!

RIWWP

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Subtle as in "We still aren't willing to talk about the rotary (at the time) but here is our new design language for you to look at. Don't mind all the rotary cues.... we aren't really saying anything about that."

77mjd

Sad thing is I'm going to have to leave the brand for my next vehicle since there won't be a new mazda sports car any time soon. Hopefully they can get it together in the meantime.

My dilemma is I'm just not in love with any of the possible replacements in my price range (ie. Mustang, Camaro, Gen Coupe, 370Z) like I was when I bought my 8.

Speed_8

the cx5 was very similar to its concept, I figure the 6 will be similar as well.

Supernaut6

Never now stop crying you baby.

EricB

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more like 1000 more over priced R3's

nycgps

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whaare u talking about! how dare u to call the 70 each spirit r badge, different tail light, and a few other useless stuff overpriced r3,!!!!!!!

if i never have a 8 i don't mind buying one tho, too bad most of us can't get 1t

monchie

Not sure about the rx-8, but the 6 will continue.

Shneed

Yeah, I know they at least make them in New Zealand so Kiwis can get 'em lol. I know because I talk to a few people there and was looking up cars there for one of 'em. Maybe I should move there to get a new model?

An RX-8 and some sheep...how could you go wrong?

Mmmm, lamb chops! Last one I ate was a product of NZ..yum. (Sorry if you're a vegetarian).

fyrstormer

I'm not a vegetarian. As a meat-eater, I at least have the decency to kill my food before I devour it. That garden salad is still alive. CAN'T YOU HEAR THEIR TINY SCREAMS, YOU MONSTER?!?!? (one of my favorite things to taunt vegans with)

RXeckless

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This is the last report I know of, and it's not looking good for us rotards.
Mazda Ends Hummm as Rotary Gives Way to Hydrogen Cells - Bloomberg

laurichj

As a vegetarian, I don't care what you eat. For the most part, I don't care even if you're eating it in front of me. If I do, then it's just the smell of some seafood. In fact, most don't. And I'm sorry for the vocal minority that makes people think otherwise.

You're so clever. You should be so proud of yourself.

fyrstormer

Perhaps I should clarify: I taunt vegans who give me **** about my food choices. If someone whom I've never met decides the best thing for them to do is tell me I'm living wrong, I have no problem offending them until they go away. This has happened several times, amazingly enough.

Another one of my favorites is "the murder gives it that extra zing."

laurichj

Fair enough. Yeah, every group has them. Combine some peoples' natural tendency of asshattery with an ethical system that requires you to avoid or be very awkward at a lot of social gatherings and you're going to have a bad time.

FNLR3

Over=priced R3?

More like overpriced GT trim to add weight and stuff. R3 comes in a little under the GT at sticker. And my R3 is worth every cent I paid and then some.

And Ikuo "Speedy" Maeda designed our RX-8s, he won't leave us hanging. And not for simple nostalgiac reasons.

Those hydrogen-powered vehicles the idiotic bloomberg report mentioned? They aren't hydogen fuel cells, they are rotary powered Mazda 5s. And this is the interesting deal: rotary engines don't produce anywhere near the heat of Otto cycle engines, so they are a much better bet to burn hydrogen. Especially in his transitonal period when there are almost no hydrogen stations (unless you live in the right place in Cali and have connections), so those cars (named the Premacy in Japan) and the two RX-8s leased to the Norwegian government are dual fuel hydrogen/gas, where you can throw a switch on the dash to go from hydrogen to gasoline.

What held up the 16-X was the failure to achive goals in low-end torque, better fuel efficiency/more efficient use of fossil fuels. Then the stuff that started as the gram strategy and became the SKY stuff got ready faster than expected. Mazda has publicly come out (though not sure if this has been repeated since Maeda-san became chief of design) that the fossil fuel burning engine will be the dominant power plant for automobiles through 2050. The next obvious step is a true hybrid, one that runs on more than one type of FUEL. The rotary is the best answer, and Mazda has a huge step up.

User24

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Lol. Mazda needs to stop pissing in the wind with all their rotary pipe dreams. Improving mpg and emissions, etc. Not going to happen anytime soon.

They had it right with the rx7, pricing it upmarket. The more expensive, the less of a concern mpg and reliability are. Have a few halo exotic rotary for the Jay Lenos, then another rotary at the $50k mark. Do they really think the general population, 4-seater family person gonna drive a rotary? Forget about it.

You do realize that if Mazda reached their goals of emissions, torque, mpg, and hybrid operation it would be a pretty neutered rotary right?

RIWWP

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And you know what?


There are plenty of us that don't give a crap about whether or not people like you think the rotary will come back, whether or not it's a good idea, whether or not the general public would buy it, etc...


If Mazda had been listening to people like you the rotary wouldn't have gotten this far. They haven't listened to what people say they should do. They never have, never will. Even their take on economy commuters completely defies convention and what they are "supposed" to do. The rotary they pursue because of what they believe in, NOT because of what other people believe in.

I applaud them for it.


An efficient low emissions rotary with torque? Actually that sounds anything BUT neutered. A more efficient combustion is a clean combustion. A more efficient combustion means more power from a single combustion. They all go hand in hand. Can't be done? Yeah, neither could 14:1 compression ratio on pump gas.

Mazda has a habit of doing what people say can't, or shouldn't, be done.

DR. Victor Wankel

what did mazda do that no one thought they would be able to?

RIWWP

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Produce the fuel efficiency of a hybrid without hybrid technology, using compression ratios that were considered impossible or impractical with pump gas.