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If i wanted a 4 banger mated to an RX-8 transmission, I'd buy a Miata.
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I don't know what's worse: you wanting a 4-cylinder RX-8 or the fact that you believe in Global Warming...
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livinin the seventies? Wouldn't it be a RX818 with a 4cyl. RX3 / 808
& no I like spending all my hard earned on petrol for my toy / baby. |
Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2524715)
Yes, definatelly.
Throw the MS3 setup in there and they could keep up with 350z sales. |
Originally Posted by JRichter
(Post 2524870)
No it wouldn't and I don't think Mazda is worried about keeping up with 350Z sales. They are happy just having a (the only) Rotary powered car on the market regardless of the volume they move. Some people just don't get it.
You don't...... They don't care how many cars they sell? Thats classic. |
Originally Posted by JRichter
(Post 2524870)
No it wouldn't and I don't think Mazda is worried about keeping up with 350Z sales. They are happy just having a (the only) Rotary powered car on the market regardless of the volume they move. Some people just don't get it.
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It may be a possibility that the only way they're keeping the rights to the rotary engine are to keep it in production...
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I think the real question is... would you have bought the RX-8 if the Miata came with a Renny Also?
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Originally Posted by Symbioticgenius
(Post 2525044)
I think the real question is... would you have bought the RX-8 if the Miata came with a Renny Also?
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if I wanted something with a 4 banger in it I would just buy ANYTHING else other than an RX car. I wanted a reliable rotary and the 8 was the only option I had. It also looks better than most other cars in existance.
Why settle for a 4 cylinder anyway, if you want speed AND good looks AND decent gas mileage then forget some crappy 4 banger. Get a corvette, they get 33 mpg on the highway if you're nice to them and can still outperform an 8 in many ways.... AND... it's a frickin vette!!! speak of which, I want a vette with a 26B in it and modern suspension while we're talking crazy. wait a minute... put a vette engine in the 8, ruin the handling... but you'll have a car that looks great, sounds great, goes fast in a straight line and still looks like the 8, and gets better mileage than a miata when cruising |
Originally Posted by daisuke
(Post 2525154)
if I wanted something with a 4 banger in it I would just buy ANYTHING else other than an RX car. I wanted a reliable rotary and the 8 was the only option I had. It also looks better than most other cars in existance.
Why settle for a 4 cylinder anyway, if you want speed AND good looks AND decent gas mileage then forget some crappy 4 banger. Get a corvette, they get 33 mpg on the highway if you're nice to them and can still outperform an 8 in many ways.... AND... it's a frickin vette!!! speak of which, I want a vette with a 26B in it and modern suspension while we're talking crazy. wait a minute... put a vette engine in the 8, ruin the handling... but you'll have a car that looks great, sounds great, goes fast in a straight line and still looks like the 8, and gets better mileage than a miata when cruising |
Originally Posted by ZoomZoomH
(Post 2523847)
fuck you man, if you want a 4 cylinder that gets good gas mileage, get a yaris or something
RX means ROTARY SPORT, no rotary, no RX, get it? GOOD. |
Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2524907)
How do you know?
You don't...... They don't care how many cars they sell? Thats classic. A lot of car makers are willing to be less profitable on a niche/top of the line car just to keep a reputation for innovation/engineering or whatever intact that can do more for its place or name in the market then huge volumes of sales would. The more practical/economical and no doubt higher volume car sales are there to help fund such cars. Think about Porsche's 911 w/ the engine still in the rear. They tried to replace it with a more conventional front engined 928 which didn't work and the 911 carried on building that following even more while the 928 died a slow death. Porsche wouldn't exist today (or be buying up VW) if they had killed the unconventional design of the 911. Or a totally different example on a bigger scale would be VW producing the Bugatti Veyron at an extreme money loss on everyone sold just for the bragging rights of fastest car or to showcase their engineering capabilities to the world. I think the Japanese manufacturers gained a reputation for bland appliance like cars that no one could distinguish which brand was which when they were first getting underway in the US so each one has tried to do something to establish there name. Best way to do this is to go back to their heritage. To anyone that knows anything about cars Mazda has always been know for it's rotary engine and innovative sporty cars. It's obvious in all the literature or media I've ever read on Mazda that they always want to sell a rotary powered car and continue to develop it. They went to Le Mans w/ a rotary powered car and are still the only Japanese manufacture to win there. Though they didn't make immediate money off of it you can bet it helped make the Mazda name stickout in the crowded auto industry. Sure they could plop whatever engine into whatever and probably get some sales but I still believe most of the RX- following is attributed to the fact that it is different and it is powered by a rotary engine. A 4-cylinder RX- would not be called RX- and the RXis instantly recognizable to most car enthusiasts which is exactly what Mazda has established throughout the years and it is all based on pervious rotory-powered cars. If Mazda released the RX-8 w/ a 4-cylinder engine they would instantly loose a lot of credibility which would obviously hurt the company in the long run and I believe the RX-8 would sell even less. Look at the goddam thing. It's got rotary influence all over it from the hood to the gearshift to the backs of the seats so on and so on. I think they could sell a Kurbura type car easily w/ the 2.3 T to compete w/ the upcoming Toyota/Subaru RWD coupe and Nissan RWD coupe both of which will be powered by a I4 along side a rotary powered halo car which would serve people that don't want or desire a rotary engine. And classic? What's classic is seeing someone who consistently posts negativity on the rotary engine in every related post because their's failed. This is the reason I say some people just don't get it. I applaud any car maker that doesn't bow down to the bean counters and sticks with their gut on something different and not mainstream. As an auto enthusiast it would be a very dull and boring world if every car maker did they same thing and sold the same car. Lots of 4-cylinder cars available if thats what you want but I don't.
Originally Posted by robrecht
(Post 2524920)
I think they were originally hoping for much higher sales, which would have allowed them to bring out the 2-seater rotary much sooner. Check out the quotes from Bob Hall (father of the Miata) in my signature.
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very well said..
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Originally Posted by JRichter
(Post 2525242)
You don't either and we won't because it won't happen.
A lot of car makers are willing to be less profitable on a niche/top of the line car just to keep a reputation for innovation/engineering or whatever intact that can do more for its place or name in the market then huge volumes of sales would. The more practical/economical and no doubt higher volume car sales are there to help fund such cars. Think about Porsche's 911 w/ the engine still in the rear. They tried to replace it with a more conventional front engined 928 which didn't work and the 911 carried on building that following even more while the 928 died a slow death. Porsche wouldn't exist today (or be buying up VW) if they had killed the unconventional design of the 911. Or a totally different example on a bigger scale would be VW producing the Bugatti Veyron at an extreme money loss on everyone sold just for the bragging rights of fastest car or to showcase their engineering capabilities to the world. I think the Japanese manufacturers gained a reputation for bland appliance like cars that no one could distinguish which brand was which when they were first getting underway in the US so each one has tried to do something to establish there name. Best way to do this is to go back to their heritage. To anyone that knows anything about cars Mazda has always been know for it's rotary engine and innovative sporty cars. It's obvious in all the literature or media I've ever read on Mazda that they always want to sell a rotary powered car and continue to develop it. They went to Le Mans w/ a rotary powered car and are still the only Japanese manufacture to win there. Though they didn't make immediate money off of it you can bet it helped make the Mazda name stickout in the crowded auto industry. Sure they could plop whatever engine into whatever and probably get some sales but I still believe most of the RX- following is attributed to the fact that it is different and it is powered by a rotary engine. A 4-cylinder RX- would not be called RX- and the RXis instantly recognizable to most car enthusiasts which is exactly what Mazda has established throughout the years and it is all based on pervious rotory-powered cars. If Mazda released the RX-8 w/ a 4-cylinder engine they would instantly loose a lot of credibility which would obviously hurt the company in the long run and I believe the RX-8 would sell even less. Look at the goddam thing. It's got rotary influence all over it from the hood to the gearshift to the backs of the seats so on and so on. I think they could sell a Kurbura type car easily w/ the 2.3 T to compete w/ the upcoming Toyota/Subaru RWD coupe and Nissan RWD coupe both of which will be powered by a I4 along side a rotary powered halo car which would serve people that don't want or desire a rotary engine. And classic? What's classic is seeing someone who consistently posts negativity on the rotary engine in every related post because their's failed. This is the reason I say some people just don't get it. I applaud any car maker that doesn't bow down to the bean counters and sticks with their gut on something different and not mainstream. As an auto enthusiast it would be a very dull and boring world if every car maker did they same thing and sold the same car. Lots of 4-cylinder cars available if thats what you want but I don't. Thanks robrecht. Yeah I've followed the development from the inception and realize the RX-8 was intended to appeal to broader group of people w/ its 4 seat design strictly for sales purposes but never with anything but a rotary engine. A 4-cylinder RX-8 would have done nothing for a later 2 seater rotary car but I see your point. I'm sure Mazda new there was a good chance at weak sales w/ this car. good post richer. it almost made me tear up :lol: |
wut wut in teh butt.
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Originally Posted by JRichter
(Post 2525242)
You don't either and we won't because it won't happen.
A lot of car makers are willing to be less profitable on a niche/top of the line car just to keep a reputation for innovation/engineering or whatever intact that can do more for its place or name in the market then huge volumes of sales would. The more practical/economical and no doubt higher volume car sales are there to help fund such cars. Think about Porsche's 911 w/ the engine still in the rear. They tried to replace it with a more conventional front engined 928 which didn't work and the 911 carried on building that following even more while the 928 died a slow death. Porsche wouldn't exist today (or be buying up VW) if they had killed the unconventional design of the 911. Or a totally different example on a bigger scale would be VW producing the Bugatti Veyron at an extreme money loss on everyone sold just for the bragging rights of fastest car or to showcase their engineering capabilities to the world. I think the Japanese manufacturers gained a reputation for bland appliance like cars that no one could distinguish which brand was which when they were first getting underway in the US so each one has tried to do something to establish there name. Best way to do this is to go back to their heritage. To anyone that knows anything about cars Mazda has always been know for it's rotary engine and innovative sporty cars. It's obvious in all the literature or media I've ever read on Mazda that they always want to sell a rotary powered car and continue to develop it. They went to Le Mans w/ a rotary powered car and are still the only Japanese manufacture to win there. Though they didn't make immediate money off of it you can bet it helped make the Mazda name stickout in the crowded auto industry. Sure they could plop whatever engine into whatever and probably get some sales but I still believe most of the RX- following is attributed to the fact that it is different and it is powered by a rotary engine. A 4-cylinder RX- would not be called RX- and the RXis instantly recognizable to most car enthusiasts which is exactly what Mazda has established throughout the years and it is all based on pervious rotory-powered cars. If Mazda released the RX-8 w/ a 4-cylinder engine they would instantly loose a lot of credibility which would obviously hurt the company in the long run and I believe the RX-8 would sell even less. Look at the goddam thing. It's got rotary influence all over it from the hood to the gearshift to the backs of the seats so on and so on. I think they could sell a Kurbura type car easily w/ the 2.3 T to compete w/ the upcoming Toyota/Subaru RWD coupe and Nissan RWD coupe both of which will be powered by a I4 along side a rotary powered halo car which would serve people that don't want or desire a rotary engine. And classic? What's classic is seeing someone who consistently posts negativity on the rotary engine in every related post because their's failed. This is the reason I say some people just don't get it. I applaud any car maker that doesn't bow down to the bean counters and sticks with their gut on something different and not mainstream. As an auto enthusiast it would be a very dull and boring world if every car maker did they same thing and sold the same car. Lots of 4-cylinder cars available if thats what you want but I don't. Thanks robrecht. Yeah I've followed the development from the inception and realize the RX-8 was intended to appeal to broader group of people w/ its 4 seat design strictly for sales purposes but never with anything but a rotary engine. A 4-cylinder RX-8 would have done nothing for a later 2 seater rotary car but I see your point. I'm sure Mazda new there was a good chance at weak sales w/ this car. :: Standing Applaud:: |
Originally Posted by l008com
(Post 2523438)
20-22 that I probably get now.
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someone got royally owned for posting stupidity. Good comments JRichter!
To those who get it, gets it. See my sig for Mazda's position with the Rotary technology. It would be a cop-out way to raid the parts bin for a new model. I applaud Mazda for resisting such cheap way out. Instead they built a car from the ground-up just for the rotary engine. Without it, it would just be another Miata, Z-car, Honda whatever.... |
You spent an entire paragraph defending yourself and then .....
Thanks robrecht. Yeah I've followed the development from the inception and realize the RX-8 was intended to appeal to broader group of people w/ its 4 seat design strictly for sales purposes but never with anything but a rotary engine. A 4-cylinder RX-8 would have done nothing for a later 2 seater rotary car but I see your point. I'm sure Mazda new there was a good chance at weak sales w/ this car. do a 180 and admit they intended to sell more. this isn't an exotic, its a 30k car and comparing production numbers to Porsche 911's and Bugatti is nuts. delhi, how many miles on your car now 200k? 20k? 10k? carefull now... it's complicated. |
Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2525869)
You spent an entire paragraph defending yourself and then .....
Thanks robrecht. Yeah I've followed the development from the inception and realize the RX-8 was intended to appeal to broader group of people w/ its 4 seat design strictly for sales purposes but never with anything but a rotary engine. A 4-cylinder RX-8 would have done nothing for a later 2 seater rotary car but I see your point. I'm sure Mazda new there was a good chance at weak sales w/ this car. do a 180 and admit they intended to sell more. this isn't an exotic, its a 30k car and comparing production numbers to Porsche 911's and Bugatti is nuts. |
Originally Posted by robrecht
(Post 2525887)
I think his main point that we can all agree on (except perhaps the OP) is that it would be a huge mistake to put a little 4-banger with 150 hp in the RX-8. Mazda has not and will not make this mistake. It would destroy the dynamics of the car. No, it's not a Porsche or a Bugatti, but it is unique and Mazda does deserve credit for building it and continuing to invest in R&D for the rotary even with the presumably disappointing sales of the RX-8.
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If the 8 was offered as it is now along with an MX8 with a 300-315hp turbo 4. I would gladly put money down that the MX8 would outsell it 3 to 1.
The MX8 would be less refined/smooth and less agile but would be faster, have more torque, get better mileage and not be prone to flooding. I think Mazda would sell many more units if they did this. The rotary is part of Mazda’s heritage but I don’t think it will ever be a commercial success for them. Do you honestly think adding an aluminum 4 cylinder will all of a sudden make it handle like a Mustang? |
Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2525869)
You spent an entire paragraph defending yourself and then .....
Thanks robrecht. Yeah I've followed the development from the inception and realize the RX-8 was intended to appeal to broader group of people w/ its 4 seat design strictly for sales purposes but never with anything but a rotary engine. A 4-cylinder RX-8 would have done nothing for a later 2 seater rotary car but I see your point. I'm sure Mazda new there was a good chance at weak sales w/ this car. do a 180 and admit they intended to sell more. this isn't an exotic, its a 30k car and comparing production numbers to Porsche 911's and Bugatti is nuts. delhi, how many miles on your car now 200k? 20k? 10k? carefull now... it's complicated. Agreeing that the RX-8's design was intended for higher volume of sales in no way agrees with your statement that it would sell as much as the 350z with a 4-cylinder engine. My point there is that Mazda would rather have weaker sales w/ a rotary engine and trail the 350z then produce a 4-cylinder RX-8 just to match Nissan. That's not their only goal. Mazda never, ever intended the car to have a 4-cylinder. No shit they want to sell as much as possible but they want to do it with a rotary engine! That's their goal. Anyone can sell with a 4-cylinder. Like I said before, I sure Mazda would introduce a 4-banger car along side (or perhaps a proper MX-5 coupe) before they would throw one into a RX-8. |
Originally Posted by Design1stCode2nd
(Post 2525917)
Do you honestly think adding an aluminum 4 cylinder will all of a sudden make it handle like a Mustang?
Over here where the roads aren't as wide but have more curves we like fast cars too. But I don't think I've ever seen so many people complain about the speed of a fast sportscar as in the forums here :) I love the wankel, and I think they'll continue making it for a long time. |
Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2525908)
I agree, 150hp wouldn't be enough. The MS-3 setup would make it pretty interesting though. Honestly, you wouldn't even test drive it to see?
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Originally Posted by JRichter
(Post 2525946)
Your still missing the point. No 180 that I see. It's obvious that my main point is to show that Mazda would not want to jump ship on their rotary design just to cash in on a higher short-term volume of sales. I'm not comparing the RX-8 production numbers to a Porsche or a Bugatti's production numbers. That is obviously clear in my entire post and I think you and anyone else that reads it really sees that point, your just trying to twist my post to discredit it as much as possible. Those are just examples of a car company doing something beyond caving in to the mainstream just to get some short-term sales and make a name for themselves for the long haul. It happens all over the auto industry in different ways and Mazda w/ their rotary, VW group w/ their engineering power, Porsche w/ their unconventional design are all examples of this.
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This thread sucks
Why are people complaining that they want better gas mileage? you should be complaining you want cheaper fuel! just goes to show that everyone is willing to bend over and take it from the government and oil companies. |
Originally Posted by champi0n
(Post 2526015)
This thread sucks
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Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2525994)
You compared the businees model of VW producing the Bugatti Veyron. There is a big difference between producing a few very high end cars (that are likely sold before they are even made) at a loss and the mass production of the RX-8.
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I just wasted 15 min of my life, indeed this thread sucks!
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Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2525994)
You compared the businees model of VW producing the Bugatti Veyron. There is a big difference between producing a few very high end cars (that are likely sold before they are even made) at a loss and the mass production of the RX-8.
Even when i had a FC in okinawa japan, out of 20 of my friends only 3 of us owned FC rest owned s13-14. but we also owned motorcyles as a daily driver. ppl think japan every one is driving these tuned cars, but to be honest its not like that. These car companies such as daihatsu are banking on small FF cars, and that is where mazda, nissan and toyota are banking on to small ff cars. and if ppl do owned tuned cars 99% of them own a small DD car, scooter, or motorcyle or take local transit. also when i go home to visit my family all you see is small cars. these companies who make these sport cars are only making it for the ppl who want them, its not their main goal to sale as many as they can. that is what the small cars are for. also in japan every year we have to pay for tags, but the price goes by the size of the engine etc. these tags cost us anywhere from 800.00-2000.00 which pays for good roads etc. so i can tell you nissan and other car companies that make sport cars their sales numbers are low. ppl rather have small cars due to small engines so they dont have to pay alot for a yearly tags. so like Jrichter said earlier, i dont think mazda is crying over rx sales, yes they would like to sale more, but it's not something they are loosing their sleep over. they have other cars for that. |
I would consider buying a RX8 with a four-cylinder, but that four-cylinder would have to be more like the one in the S2000 than the one in the Miata.
Could Mazda really put a four-cylinder in there and keep the same driving dynamics, though? |
Originally Posted by Robonaut
(Post 2526213)
Could Mazda really put a four-cylinder in there and keep the same driving dynamics, though?
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Originally Posted by Robonaut
(Post 2526213)
I would consider buying a RX8 with a four-cylinder, but that four-cylinder would have to be more like the one in the S2000 than the one in the Miata.
Could Mazda really put a four-cylinder in there and keep the same driving dynamics, though? |
Originally Posted by CyberPitz
(Post 2526287)
The weight ratio would be screwed. Would have to probably change the way it sits in there a bit. The handling would be compromised a bit.
And I'm pretty sure the RX-8 doesn't have "perfect" 50-50 distribution...I think it is weighted slightly to the front. As Mazda says for the MX-5 "nearly 50-50 distribution |
PS, the driving dynamics of the MX-5 are not compromised in any way over the RX-8, chassis wise. Now some stiffer springs and sways would definitely make me happy, though.
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Of course, the Miata is proof that you can still have great chassis dynamics with a 4-banger, but I'd still much rather have a Miata with a 16x rotary. Less engine weight, mounted lower and further back. Who can possibly argue with that? It's possible to design a car for both engine options--the Kabura is proof of this concept. I think I know which one most of us here would prefer, but hopefully others will have the choice. The same car could have a small 3- or 4-cylinder fuel efficient piston engine or an even lighter high performance rotary. To my mind, this dual platform car would better illustrate the genius of the rotary engine, both its advantages as well as its disadvantages, which are at least minimized in a light-weight 2-seater. As much as I love my RX-8, I believe the particular genius of a small rotary engine is better illustrated in a lighter weight sports coupe. Who knows, could be that a rotary Kabura could sell better than an RX-8. Seems most of the rotary enthusiasts have not necessarily bought into the compromise of a 4-seater sports car.
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Originally Posted by jzief128
(Post 2526326)
In defense of this crazy 4 cyl idea (which I do not support), the MX-5 has about 51-49 weight distribution front and back AND it uses a shortened RX-8 platform. Throwing the MX-5 4 cyl in the RX-8 wouldn't necesarily change things all that much. Granted, the 2.0 4 cyl probably does weigh a little bit more than the rotary, but it all depends on WHERE the extra weight of the RX-8 comes from in the chassis (it weighs about 500 lbs more than the MX-5).
And I'm pretty sure the RX-8 doesn't have "perfect" 50-50 distribution...I think it is weighted slightly to the front. As Mazda says for the MX-5 "nearly 50-50 distribution The MX-5 is MUCh lighter everywhere than the RX-8, so it finds it easier to drop that engine in there and make that balance, as it was built with that engine in mind, as the RX-8 wasn't is what I was getting at. I am not incorrect in saying the handling will be compromised a bit. I'm not saying, "HOLY SHIT, YOU WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO TURN!" Just saying it will be different. |
Originally Posted by Robonaut
(Post 2526213)
I would consider buying a RX8 with a four-cylinder, but that four-cylinder would have to be more like the one in the S2000 than the one in the Miata.
Could Mazda really put a four-cylinder in there and keep the same driving dynamics, though? I think Robonaut hit the point here. If we all wanted a high-strung 4-cylinder capable sport machine, we'd be in S2ki.com by now. The RX car will not be the same with rotary. Mazda intended this to be their signature product. Many automotive car companies have it too. The rx8 like the rx7s before it appeals to certain types of folks. Not everyone. People like shoafb is not one of them. But what's puzzling is his incessant troll-like vendetta against it. I understand that the lexus forum like its cars is a <yawner> but surely miata.net is a busy place to learn. :) |
Shhh, Shoafb isn't trolling, he's just putting in his input.
*If you can't tell, I've been down that road, and can already tell his response* In all honesty, I expected him to have made this thread. Kinda dropped my jaw when it was another. |
Hey I just advised someone to buy an rx-8 on a thread the other day... I did say to stay away from the 04-05's but still.... that's progress. :eyetwitch
All I did on this one was answer the OP's question.... ok so I shouldn't have thrown the dig in about the 350 sales but boy did that get people fired up quick. |
Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2526632)
All I did on this one was answer the OP's question.... ok so I shouldn't have thrown the dig in about the 350 sales but boy did that get people fired up quick.
Originally Posted by l008com
(Post 2523438)
Would you buy an RX-8 with mazda's 150 hp 2.0L 4-cylinder motor? ... ALSO for the sake of my hypothetical question, lets just ignore the option of putting something like a turbo charged 4cyl 1.8 or 2.0 in the car ...
Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2524715)
Yes, definatelly.
Throw the MS3 setup in there and they could keep up with 350z sales. |
Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2526632)
Hey I just advised someone to buy an rx-8 on a thread the other day... I did say to stay away from the 04-05's but still.... that's progress. :eyetwitch
All I did on this one was answer the OP's question.... ok so I shouldn't have thrown the dig in about the 350 sales but boy did that get people fired up quick. |
I heard that Hinson Supercars is working in a LS-X kit for the rx-8 for about the same price than the rx7s
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Originally Posted by robrecht
(Post 2526653)
Actually, you completely ignored the point of the thread:
My reply : Yes I tried to leave no room for misinterpretation this time. |
Originally Posted by CyberPitz
(Post 2526381)
True, but the Miata was made for a 4banger, while the RX8 was made for the Rotary. Changing one thing and dropping in another doesn't mean it's going to be the same thing...and you're right, ti's not 50-50, it's, what, 48-50 or something.
The MX-5 is MUCh lighter everywhere than the RX-8, so it finds it easier to drop that engine in there and make that balance, as it was built with that engine in mind, as the RX-8 wasn't is what I was getting at. I am not incorrect in saying the handling will be compromised a bit. I'm not saying, "HOLY SHIT, YOU WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO TURN!" Just saying it will be different. |
Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2526981)
Original OP's qestion : would you buy an rx8 with a 4cyl.
My reply : Yes I tried to leave no room for misinterpretation this time.
Originally Posted by l008com
(Post 2523438)
Would you buy an RX-8 with mazda's 150 hp 2.0L 4-cylinder motor? ... ALSO for the sake of my hypothetical question, lets just ignore the option of putting something like a turbo charged 4cyl 1.8 or 2.0 in the car ...
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Originally Posted by Shoafb
Yes, definatelly. Throw the MS3 setup in there and they could keep up with 350z sales.
Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2526632)
All I did on this one was answer the OP's question.... ok so I shouldn't have thrown the dig in about the 350 sales but boy did that get people fired up quick.
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Originally Posted by Shoafb
(Post 2527293)
Originally Posted by Shoafb
Yes, definatelly. Throw the MS3 setup in there and they could keep up with 350z sales. I allready admitted I should not have thrown in the 350 dig....after I answered YES to the OP's question. What else do you want? Now, don't you have anything funny to say about Jessica Alba's penis? |
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