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sandia8 01-04-2005 04:35 PM

will there be a 2006 8
 
any bets that there will be no 2006 rx-8 since the 04 are not selling?
maybe we should take a poll.
my guesss is it's the end of the line.

ZoomZoomH 01-04-2005 04:42 PM

uh, the 8 is selling just fine

army_rx8 01-04-2005 04:44 PM

well last time i checked they are selling the 05 models pretty well:p

i also doubt it'll be the end of the line since they put a lot of r & D into this car i think they would like to get a bigger return canceling now would negate that wish (also mazda sold more rx-8's in 2004 then they had initaly projected.)

ZoomZoomH 01-04-2005 04:48 PM

i'm *hoping* for a 2nd gen RX-8 in... 2008?

army_rx8 01-04-2005 04:50 PM

that's would be sweet. i can only dream what it would look like. Haven't seen any hints of mazda trying uot and new body designs though....or anythign at all drasticly new for the 8. but i'm no treally sure teh turn around time for design to production in the car industry

XUrotaryrocket 01-04-2005 04:56 PM

you are seriously misinformed if you think the RX-8 is not selling. Go do some homework.

G8rboy 01-04-2005 05:03 PM

This guy posts a lot of troll-like comments like that. Mazda made over 100,000 RX8's in the first production year- that's a lot for a specialty sports car. It took Mazda over a decade to sell 500,000 Miata's, which is the best selling sports car of all time... I would say the RX8 is doing just fine, so put down the crack pipe.

rx8wannahave 01-04-2005 05:09 PM


so put down the crack pipe
LOL, that would make sense...LOL

As far as I "hear" the RX8 is selling very well...where did you get your info? Crack is a bad thing....real bad thing...LOL, just messing but I (like the rest of the people) don't get where you got your info from.

DrRockin99 01-04-2005 05:17 PM

I know of a Ford dealership that still has 2 2003 F150 Trucks on there lot , and most dealerships still have '04's on the lots right now

Peter Sawko 01-04-2005 05:37 PM

MSRP vs. Sell Price
 
Edmunds suggests that 2005 RX8's are selling at $1500 bellow MSRP.

I know it's winter but that is a good discount and must indicate that the cars aren't in such strong demand. :) :rolleyes:

rx8wannahave 01-04-2005 05:42 PM


Edmunds suggests that 2005 RX8's are selling at $1500 bellow MSRP.

I know it's winter but that is a good discount and must indicate that the cars aren't in such strong demand.
Wait, who "EVER" pays MSRP? That's just foolish...crazy, lazy car shopping. Considering that most dealers wanted over MSRP...selling for $1500 under is not bad at all nor indicates a slow selling car.

When I was looking for a 2004 starting in December 2004 I could only find a handful in the entire state of FL, so I think they are selling just fine. But again...I want REAL numbers and I have not seen them yet.

XUrotaryrocket 01-04-2005 06:38 PM

There are alot of "foolish" car shoppers on here who didn't shop. They pre-ordered and paid full price for the first RX-8's in the country. I am one of them and I have beaten 50,112 miles into my car in 17 months.

Mazda is one of the few car companies actually beating sales expectations and $1500 is not a desperate discount. Go check out you local Ford and Chevy dealers and look at the rebates THOSE jackholes are giving........... they can't give those POS's away.

jsh1120 01-04-2005 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Peter Sawko
Edmunds suggests that 2005 RX8's are selling at $1500 bellow MSRP.

I know it's winter but that is a good discount and must indicate that the cars aren't in such strong demand. :) :rolleyes:

Beg to differ. Just ran the pricing from Edmunds on a 2005 base package and GT pakage 6 speed in Denver where you're located. The estimated price of each is approximately $500, not $1500 below MSRP. (You may have been looking at a 2004 model.)

I found a couple of months ago, however, that the Edmunds price was about $800 over the lowest quote I received. Remember, these are estimates.

Further, judging whether a car is doing well in sales based on a first year introduction is a tricky business. Dealers cannot know how well a particular model will sell in their own locale. Most would rather have a few cars left over at the end of the year (for a hot model) than to have under-ordered and have no cars to sell before the model year ends. I'd expect dealers to have a better idea about their prospective sales of 2005 models than the 2004 and will order accordingly. In the meantime, there is still time to make a very good deal on a 2004, at least here in Seattle.

P.S. If you're really looking for a "deal" try pricing a Ford Excursion or Lincoln Navigator. Those are going for over $7000 under MSRP. :)

Omicron 01-04-2005 07:05 PM

A lot of people paid MSRP when the RX-8 first came out. Many had preordered because they had been waiting for the "next RX-7" ever since Mazda dropped it. Anyone who pays MSRP these days is either a poor negotiator or foolish... but back when the car first came out, it was perfectly acceptable.

And no, I didn't pay MSRP... thanks to the S-Plan. :D

Genom 01-04-2005 07:12 PM

Just ignore this thread people. The monthly Mazda sales are posted on the site and they have sold beyond the expected numbers since the car came out. Sandia is just looking to start something.

Elara 01-04-2005 07:13 PM

Sandia, please don't troll. I'm not sure where the heck you're getting your information, but the 8 is selling pretty well. Not as well as projected for the past 6 months, but then, if you pay any attention to automotive news recently NOTHING is selling as well as expected. And no one pays MSRP unless they're buying something that just came out or they're just stupid.

And since Mazda Japan is planning on a Hydrogen/Gasoline hybrid 8 for 2006, I think that gives a pretty good indication they aren't going anywhere. Here's a link that might help you out a bit so you don't have to make things up when you post.

http://media.ford.com/mazda/article_...90&make_id=227

zoom44 01-04-2005 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by jsh1120
I'd expect dealers to have a better idea about their prospective sales of 2005 models than the 2004 and will order accordingly.

and now the plant has had a fire and they are having trouble getting steel. so allocations to many dealers will be cut drastically down. most are probably going to get way fewer than they hoped. there wont be many 2005s on the lot by the end of the year. that might help boost early 2006 sales (demand being higher than what they can order) as the factory gets back up to speed.

irish8 01-04-2005 07:33 PM

I think our 8's are doing ok....

IRVINE, Calif., Nov. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Mazda North American Operations today released the following sales figures for October 2004:

Month-To-Date Year-To-Date
October October % October October %
2004 2003 Change 2004 2003 Change

Protege 19 5,046 -99.6% 6,369 61,067 -89.6%

Mazda3 5,795 12 48191.7% 66,591 12 5548.25

626 0 15 -100.0% 14 1,620 -99.1%

Mazda6 7,376 6,194 19.1% 58,361 51,160 14.1%

Millenia 0 13 -100.0% 18 1,799 -99.0%

Miata 605 926 -34.7% 8,130 9,742 -16.5%

RX8 1,823 2,510 -27.4% 21,049 8,180 157.3%

MPV 1,831 2,641 -30.7% 21,834 26,204 -16.7%

Mazda Truck 814 1,162 -29.9% 9,006 13,094 -31.2%

Tribute 3,002 3,262 -8.0% 34,026 43,625 -22.0%

Total Vehicles

CARS 15,618 14,716 6.1% 160,532 133,580 20.2%

TRUCKS 5,647 7,065 -20.1% 64,866 82,923 -21.8%

TOTAL 21,265 21,781 -2.4% 225,398 216,503 4.1%



The 8 is off in Oct MTD sales due to the '04/'05 transition!!

- Irish :cool:

rx8wannahave 01-04-2005 07:45 PM

Genom, where is this site? Do you mean mazdausa.com?

StewC625 01-04-2005 10:04 PM

HEY SANDIA:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/stfu6.jpg

markd 01-04-2005 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by sandia8
any bets that there will be no 2006 rx-8 since the 04 are not selling?
maybe we should take a poll.
my guesss is it's the end of the line.

That's the stupidest post I've read since I've been here.

PaulieWalnuts 01-04-2005 10:15 PM

What yoda said

VmanX 01-04-2005 10:20 PM

um.. i see about 3 rx-8s a day...

i think they're doing well

aireyc 01-04-2005 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
Genom, where is this site? Do you mean mazdausa.com?

Geese dude, you keep complaining about not getting information w/their locations. I did a nice google search for you.

http://www.mazda.com/publicity/product/seihane.html

Edit: I went back and calculated total production.

2003: 60,100
2004: Jan - Jun: 27,186
2004: Jul: 5,054
2004: Aug: 3,709
2004: Sep: 4,303
2004: Oct: 3,827
2004: Nov: 4,502

Total Through Nov 2004: 108,681

(may be off a bit since I did it quick)

Chris

truemagellen 01-05-2005 01:18 AM

hey don't forget international sales...the 8 is a HUGE seller around the world where they are more apt to appreciate a well built car and not salivate like pavlov's dog when an American V-8 comes along!

sandia8 01-05-2005 09:19 AM

HEY , this was just a question! Chill out. Every time anyone says anything
that even seems to put this car in the spotlight , you scream troll. I say you are all FOS babies.

30% of the rx-8's in inventory in some states are unsold 04 models
Ford amd GM sales are way down. Facts speak for themselves.

Mugatu 01-05-2005 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by sandia8
I say you are all FOS babies.

sandia, why don't you get the hell outta here. maybe we should take a poll... ;)

sandia8 01-05-2005 09:27 AM

Because of late-year launches for many of the models, however, Ford's car business was disappointing in 2004, falling 14 percent from the previous year.

Gord96BRG 01-05-2005 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by sandia8
HEY , this was just a question!

Hmmm... "since the 04 are not selling" wasn't a question, it was a statement - and a damned stupid, ignorant, uninformed one at that. You deserved the flames.

Regards,
Gordon

czr 01-05-2005 10:04 AM

Get your shots in while you can. *shot* - what Gord said.

Mugatu 01-05-2005 10:11 AM

http://www.chatterwaul.com/images/odd/cave_troll.jpg
TROLL

mysql101 01-05-2005 10:14 AM

The RX-8 was never meant to sell more cars than the Mazda3 or Mazda6. The engines are hand built, there is a limit to how many can be pumped out. Given that there were more RX-8's sold than they targetted, I'd say it's reasonable to expect a 2006 model. There simply isn't any reason for Mazda to drop the platform after two years when they spent so many years in development. I'd say this even if the car fell short of the expected sales ... it would have to majorly fail for them to drop it so soon.

Elara 01-05-2005 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by sandia8
HEY , this was just a question! Chill out. Every time anyone says anything
that even seems to put this car in the spotlight , you scream troll. I say you are all FOS babies.

30% of the rx-8's in inventory in some states are unsold 04 models
Ford amd GM sales are way down. Facts speak for themselves.


What does GM have to do with anything? All car sales are way down- or are you not paying attention? And you ARE acting like a troll- you keep posting this when you KNOW it's going to piss people off and cause a flamewar-- ie. deliberately trolling. You can read the TOS as well as anyone else on this board. If you can't figure out a way to say something in a manner that isn't going to cause an ugly uproar, then don't say it. And that is a warning.

foxman 01-05-2005 10:45 AM

Mazda and many other auto makers where down in Dec., but Mazda is up for the year.

Mazda Motor Corp. said Tuesday that U.S. sales sank 12.9 percent in December as car sales fell sharply and truck sales were off slightly.

The Japanese automaker sold 20,866 vehicles during the month, down from 23,056 a year ago. Car sales dropped 17.1 percent to 14,464 units while truck sales decreased 1.4 percent to 6,402 vehicles. Sales of the Mazda6, Mazda's best-selling car, declined 23.1 percent to 7,006 cars. The company also lost sales from its discontinued Protege model.

For the year, sales rose 1.6 percent to 263,882 vehicles, as higher car sales offset a 20.2 percent decline in truck sales.

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap1737951.html

          MTLbroker 01-05-2005 02:41 PM


          Originally Posted by sandia8
          HEY , this was just a question! Chill out. Every time anyone says anything
          that even seems to put this car in the spotlight , you scream troll. I say you are all FOS babies.

          30% of the rx-8's in inventory in some states are unsold 04 models
          Ford amd GM sales are way down. Facts speak for themselves.


          What possible differece can it make to you?



          ....... troll ........

          zoom44 01-05-2005 03:41 PM

          from rotarynews.com:


          As of December 1st 2004, there was a 181-day supply of Miata’s, a 93-day supply of MPV’s, and 128-day supply of Rx-8’s in the United States. Based on those numbers, there could be very few, if any, MPVs available in late March.
          128 day supply is a good number if production was running. however with the fire halting production until at least march the US could literally run out of RX-8s to sell by the time they get production rolling again. so they will be able to again sell every one they make plus for 2005 just liek they did for 2004 model year. no worries about 2006:D


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