wheel hop
 

New to the Forum. Just bought my '04 RX-8 last thursday.

So I'm at a stop sign, at a dead stop. I rev the motor to about 8k and dump the clutch in first. The car shake's so violently i'm suprised nothing broke. The entire car hop'd so bad that it came out of gear!!

Why does it do this? Is this common? Do I need stiffer springs in the back?

I figured I had the rpm's high enough. It always breaks the tires loose in first when I'm movin, but it hates it from a dead stop.

Keep doing 8k clutch drops and this problem will go away. A tow truck will come and give it a ride to Mazda and it will not hop for a few days.

So your tellin me this car wont even let me dump the clutch from a dead stop? My '87 4cyl S-10 would! :mad:

doesn't mean it was good for the s-10 either. but yes, it will. 5-7k seems to be the optimal launch rpm. did you disable dsc/tcs before you attempted this maneuver?

oh, and doing high rpm clutch drops will kill your clutch, and possibly other tranny components. unless you are a fan of doing transmission work, or just have more money than you know what to do with to pay to have it fixed, i wouldn't make a habit out of such activity.

This muthafucka can't be serious! Are you a fuckin ass? This has to be a fuckin joke. No one can't be this ignorant. If anyone I knew anyone that was this dumb I'd recommend castration as to not pollute the gene pool. I won't even give any real advice, because I am truly convinced that someone fuckin with the forum.

that wasnt wheel hop, it was your transmission trying to run for it's life.
Bad owner! Bad owner!

You would rev to 8K in the s10???? :icon_no2:

not to 8k, i'm just sayin that the S-10 wouldn't wheel hop. Didnt know it was a big deal. Do it in my buddy's cobra all the time, and it just roasts the tires. Must be the HP difference.

dsc / tcs my friend

if you have dcs button. hold it down for 10 seconds to turn off the dcs and tcs, then try it again at around 5k. but dont blame me if you mess somethin up.

You obviously has no or very little understanding of the technology your abusing. If the whole car shook AND popped outta gear you dropped the clutch way way way too quick. You're lucky you didn't break anything. I don't know if there is term that would describe something more intense than a "dump"...how about, "jettison"? Yea..I think that works. And even if you are going to launch at 8K, be a bit more gentle, it can be done and even if you do it well, you WILL still cause abnormal wear on it. You'll notice the flowery smell of popouri once you get moving.

bottom line.....you shouldn't be dumpin clutches in the first place. Secondly, since the RX8 doesn't have much torque it wasn't designed to have hard/firm clutch handle the type of transfer that you're used to having. Third, please please be gently, we love our babies and we don't want to see anyone in the brotherhood getting towed or have issues.

welcome to the club.

Congrats on the new ride. As with any car, it can be toyed with. But 8k pops? um, why? There is a term for what you've done:

wasn't good for that either. high rpm clutch drops are bad in every car. some cars are just more willing to let you know that its bad. your friends cobra must have battered-car syndrome. :nono:

Why did you pick 8K? Why not just hold it at the rev limiter?

Please sell your car to somene who will know how to drive it/ treat it proper.
Its morons like you that blow your tranny in the first two oil changes and then wanna piss and moan at Mazda for making a weak clutch/gearbox.
I hope your tranny drops out of the bottom of your f**king car the next time you try that... idiot.

LOL. . . I need a napkin to wipe the coffee spewing out my nose

I love that yous guys appreciate my contributions. :kiss:

Love your post but... Quote from the April 2003 Road and Track road test report:
"With a tire-smoking launch (best times were achieved dropping the clutch at about 7500 rpm), the RX-8 in our testing sees 60 mph in 5.9 seconds and charges through the quarter in 14.5 sec. at 95.6 mph — a match for the Porsche Boxster and certainly quick by modern sports-car standards"

So I guess won't be renewing your subscription to Road and Track?

I wonder how well that car held up after all the car mags did 7,500 Clutch drops on it?? That was also most likely a 250 HP RX-8 (pre EPA De-tune).

To quote myself...
But yea, I read all about those.

Odds are, if they were "tire smoking" launches, they weren't trying to do it with the traction control on. Once the tires start spinning, and the clutch is fully engaged to the flywheel, then you aren't roasting the clutch anymore. If you dump the clutch with the traction control on and it starts firing the brakes and cutting ignition, you could probably save time and just take a screwdriver to the disk and put sand in the tranny case.

yea but...wouldn't sand give it more friction which would equal more grab MOAR POWA TO THA WHEELS SON!!!

Like a Steam Locomotive, but can the roof hold the Sand dome???

1) You need to learn to feather the clutch.

2) People have had success with rear strut tower bars or undercarriage braces. Of course you could always go for the full suspension upgrade.

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