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Rx8bydocabe 06-17-2005 12:23 PM

going about 15 mph with DSC on around a sloped 90 deg turn, punched the gas a bit and lost the back end, and totally wasn't expecting to. let's just say my heart rate shot up about 50 beats.

RXhusker 06-17-2005 01:53 PM

Well after reading this thread I thought I would give it the old college try during lunch today.

Variables:
JIC suspension
strut bars
new Falken 615's 235f/275r
DSC OFF

90 degree right hand turn onto a double wide street.

I could easily do 37-40 and stay in one lane -- 50 using the wide lane. With my stock tires I would have probably been spinning like a top.

On a side note -- I think I will have to raise my suspension a tad bit if I want to keep doing that kind of corner -- I could feel her bump the fender on the faster turns.

Vertigo-1 06-17-2005 02:40 PM

Without losing tire grip, I'd say 30 max. I always make it a point to never cross lanes or chirp tires when driving around public streets. 1. For safety's sake of other cars and 2. I consider it a challenge to myself to do whatever I do while keeping it within my own lane.

Elara 06-17-2005 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by topaz88
Regarding Mazda voiding my warranty: Let's assume for a minute they actually read these forums and look for warranty breakers, which I doubt they do, but let's assume.


They do read these boards(and have been since before the car came out), and they have voided warranties ( hint: listen to Abbid). No one's trying to scare you guys, just give you a heads up. We're trying to help you out here- not going to hurt us one way or another if mazda goes after you. Don't post stuff that could even possibly be linked back to you by any stretch that could be construed as undue war and tear on the car. Just not a good idea.

Ice Blue 06-19-2005 02:36 AM

I have witnessed them being entered at 40/45 and exit at 30 to 38 on stock 18's. TSC and DSC equipped with noticeable under steer, DSC not allowing rear end to come around.

Sigma 06-19-2005 02:54 AM


Regarding Mazda voiding my warranty: Let's assume for a minute they actually read these forums and look for warranty breakers, which I doubt they do, but let's assume. 1. They are not a governmental institution, hence don't have the authority to request IPs, user information, etc. 2. I'm not breaking any federal laws, hence they don't have the power like RIAA does to request this information. 3. Even if they could decipher who I am and where I live, there is no proof, just hearsay.
People give out a lot of information about themselves over time on a Forum. Most without realizing it.

You only have 14 posts, topaz88, so the information that's been 'leaked' is slim. But I can already tell you that you have a 2005 AT w/Spoiler that you purchased in Georgia on or about the 30th of April and that you financed through Chase on a 3-year lease. With that information anyone from Mazda could easily determine what your name was and the VIN of your vehicle.

Armed with that information and a Forum post regarding some "unusual wear and tear" and a car in for a warranty repair, Mazda could easily say they're not going to cover the damage and void your warranty. They don't need "proof", we're not talking a criminal case here. They only need to have a preponderance of evidence that you "mis-used" your car and only need to convince a judge that a "reasonable person" would agree that the person posting on the Forum is indeed you.

momo 06-19-2005 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by topaz88
pcimino,

Yes, I realize it's dependant on a lot of variables, I was just curious what people have gotten it to do.

I've heard of autocross before, I just don't know much about it. I'll check out your link. Thanks!

Regarding Mazda voiding my warranty: Let's assume for a minute they actually read these forums and look for warranty breakers, which I doubt they do, but let's assume. 1. They are not a governmental institution, hence don't have the authority to request IPs, user information, etc. 2. I'm not breaking any federal laws, hence they don't have the power like RIAA does to request this information. 3. Even if they could decipher who I am and where I live, there is no proof, just hearsay. 4. Court time, lawyer fees, bad publicity, blah, blah, blah to go through all of this trouble would cost way more than the cost of just paying for any warrantied repairs I probably won't even incur over the 4 years of owning my car.

Proof that auto manufatueres void warranties, well at least Mitsu does, with the Evo8's.

Photic 06-19-2005 11:09 AM

I've found that I can enter a corner in second gear at about 25-26 and exit close to 32-34 without dsc going off.

zoom44 06-19-2005 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by topaz88
pcimino,



Regarding Mazda voiding my warranty: Let's assume for a minute they actually read these forums and look for warranty breakers, which I doubt they do, but let's assume. 1. They are not a governmental institution, hence don't have the authority to request IPs, user information, etc. 2. I'm not breaking any federal laws, hence they don't have the power like RIAA does to request this information. 3. Even if they could decipher who I am and where I live, there is no proof, just hearsay. 4. Court time, lawyer fees, bad publicity, blah, blah, blah to go through all of this trouble would cost way more than the cost of just paying for any warrantied repairs I probably won't even incur over the 4 years of owning my car.

apparrently they dont feel that way. not only do they read forums there are 7-9 people employed by mazda to read them. they look for potential problems that crop up (several tsb's are the result of them reading of a growing issue here first)and have also used information against forum members. they do it because most people dont have the money to make an issue of it. it is also no the first time an auto company has done so.

but i am on record as saying the same as you - if they tried something like that based on something i said here then there would be terrible repercussions for them as far as publicity goes. I am quite out in the open about who i am and even have my forum name as a license plate. what is said here is not "proof" of anything. but they can use it to bully people who may not have the funds to do something about it

DARKMAZ8 06-19-2005 11:46 AM

100mph with my base 6spd, while eating a big mac and chatting on the phone.

Stayed in one lane of course!

pcimino 06-19-2005 06:44 PM

You can't convince me that autocrossing is going to void a warranty!

red_rx8_red_int 06-19-2005 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by RXhusker
Well after reading this thread I thought I would give it the old college try during lunch today.

Variables:
JIC suspension
strut bars
new Falken 615's 235f/275r
DSC OFF

90 degree right hand turn onto a double wide street.

I could easily do 37-40 and stay in one lane -- 50 using the wide lane. With my stock tires I would have probably been spinning like a top.

On a side note -- I think I will have to raise my suspension a tad bit if I want to keep doing that kind of corner -- I could feel her bump the fender on the faster turns.

It really depends on how much room you have. I was driving down a state highway at between 45 and 55 with a shoulder wide enough to park a car and turned right onto another road wide enough to fit three lanes and didn't slow down at all! A porsche or stang (whatever) with a specialized paint job was behind me. I said "hold on", (I had two kids with me, yes I know it was stupid), and just turned and the car turned. I watched the car behind me go bye with a dropped jaw, he couldn't believe it. I just signaled and turned, no decrease in speed. But I do have dsc and it may have kicked in, I don't remember. And there was plenty of shoulder so it was not a real 90 degree turn.

Spazm 06-20-2005 03:24 AM

"A friend of mine" has done it at 50 mph. Definitely not staying in your lane though. There is a very nice section of road where you can see oncoming traffic for about 2 miles after the turn out in some farm/industrial area.

DSC on, flat skid about 1/2 the way into the oncoming lane.


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