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steverothery 02-24-2008 02:55 PM

turning off dsc
 
gets an extra 20-30miles out of the tank? Is this true? I have a few of my mates saying it does with them?

StealthTL 02-24-2008 03:15 PM

No.

One of the many discussions of this myth - this one from 2003.....
https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/dsc-traction-control-off-improve-mpg-11985/

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chrism 02-24-2008 04:43 PM

turning off dsc invites problems unless your a very good driver

DarkBrew 02-24-2008 05:05 PM

No. Your mates are delusional

Batman&TheBatmobile 02-24-2008 05:08 PM

turning off dsc is a good way to get acquainted with a telephone pole. ask my 8. or my m8s. rofl

Razz1 02-24-2008 06:01 PM

Ja, you can do a search on DSC and find out how valuable it is on the street.

steverothery 02-25-2008 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by DarkBrew (Post 2314287)
No. Your mates are delusional

My mates didnt really say that, i just thought id say that:Eyecrazy:

awoo haha

Mike06 02-25-2008 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by steverothery (Post 2314101)
gets an extra 20-30miles out of the tank? Is this true? I have a few of my mates saying it does with them?

ROFL!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: AHAHAHHAH!!!!

rofl!!
:lol2:

ok laughing time is over.

son, let me ask you an honest question that me and some of my "mates" that i have shown this thread to want to ask you....have you been living under a rock?:uhh:

if such a thing were true, do you not think that everyone upon purchasing their 8 would right away turn it off in an attempt to even slow down this notoriously gas-guzzling machine even a little?!

and next is the logic behind this statement: how could you possibly imagine in your wildest dreams that turning off something electronic in the car that deals with stability have anything to do with fuel consumption?!?!
a DSC Off button that doubles as an instant-gas saver!!! :) what'll they think off next?!

PM me for a brief 101 on the basic workings of cars, son :squint:

w0rm 02-25-2008 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Mike06 (Post 2315555)
ROFL!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: AHAHAHHAH!!!!

rofl!!
:lol2:

ok laughing time is over.

son, let me ask you an honest question that me and some of my "mates" that i have shown this thread to want to ask you....have you been living under a rock?:uhh:

if such a thing were true, do you not think that everyone upon purchasing their 8 would right away turn it off in an attempt to even slow down this notoriously gas-guzzling machine even a little?!

and next is the logic behind this statement: how could you possibly imagine in your wildest dreams that turning off something electronic in the car that deals with stability have anything to do with fuel consumption?!?!
a DSC Off button that doubles as an instant-gas saver!!! :) what'll they think off next?!

PM me for a brief 101 on the basic workings of cars, son :squint:

Thanks for replying to his straightforward question in a non-douchebag way.
:uhh:

Rems31 02-25-2008 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by w0rm (Post 2315675)
Thanks for replying to his straightforward question in a non-douchebag way.
:uhh:

that's no way to talk to your daddy!

steverothery 02-25-2008 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Mike06 (Post 2315555)
ROFL!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: AHAHAHHAH!!!!

rofl!!
:lol2:

ok laughing time is over.

son, let me ask you an honest question that me and some of my "mates" that i have shown this thread to want to ask you....have you been living under a rock?:uhh:

if such a thing were true, do you not think that everyone upon purchasing their 8 would right away turn it off in an attempt to even slow down this notoriously gas-guzzling machine even a little?!

and next is the logic behind this statement: how could you possibly imagine in your wildest dreams that turning off something electronic in the car that deals with stability have anything to do with fuel consumption?!?!
a DSC Off button that doubles as an instant-gas saver!!! :) what'll they think off next?!

PM me for a brief 101 on the basic workings of cars, son :squint:

For all your know it may increase fuel consumption slighty when its on, as AC does by a small amount. If your such a fucking engineer how come your on this website and not helping mazda develop the next couple of engines? Coz your a retard thats why mate, go home you freak.

Mike06 02-25-2008 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Rems31 (Post 2315679)
that's no way to talk to your daddy!

thats right son!

911SC 02-25-2008 02:55 PM

My my, must be someones time of the month.
I thought it was a ligit question. Dsc does controls how much power goes to the wheels no? On my Acura I believe it contols wheel spin by appling the breaks and limiting acceleration. So it stands to reason you could gain a wee bit of mpg with it turned off. Hey, it's just a guess, I never had a car before with anything other than ABS.
Hey, Steverothery. You in Europe yet?:)

steverothery 02-25-2008 03:33 PM

Uk only grudgingly calls itself part of europe, as the e word sucks.

England and scotland forever, we don't need them! Now japan, china etc...bring on the babes!

w0rm 02-25-2008 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Mike06 (Post 2315698)
thats right son!

Mike, your posts lead me to believe you're either a troll or an idiot. Potentially both.

alnielsen 02-25-2008 11:15 PM

Mike06,
There was some discussion a couple of years ago, on this board, that turning off the DSC may in fact improve milleage. We decided it was a myth. So, the original posts are not that crazy.
You have been warned previously about your rudeness. Don't start up again.

ILoveFI 02-26-2008 12:28 AM

So basically cars without DSC will die, I learned how to drive in my old S14, which had no ABS, no DSC, nothing and I drove it in pouring rain, on the freeway, and up to its top speed on occasion (not on a freeway) and it handled great. People don't NEED DSC to survive, and if they do that just shows people's driving skill is just getting worse and worse due to all of these electronic counter-measures. But yes, it is good against stupid driving, but if you know what you're doing I don't see how it will kill you.

Have no idea about the MPG though.


Sorry if I seem hard headed, but I just don't see how people can't live without DSC.

whitebeau 02-26-2008 12:40 AM

LOL, stupid drivers is little extreme . ;) I like the DSC/tCS option when just driving from a-b, and ABS is beneficial in all road conditions except probably dry were locking your brakes can be usefull. (Rally drivers excluded).

But yeah, it does hamper the cars performance when driving at your limits, on the flipside it lets people easy into finding out what there cars limits are. I don't think 'everybody' here tracks their car on the weekends, but also appreciate the cars design, and performance vs value. Only other car i saw on the market that was comparative was an is-300... I don't know of another 4door rwd car out on the market that's in the same power/weight ratio.

I do hope the DSC gets revised though.. it gets pretty jerky if the back end comes out if you haven't tested it yet. Drifting can still be done with the DSC off and TCS on. :D:

Getting back on track to the thread. anybody want to do a test? Pacific Raceway in Seattle has an event coming up in March, and Bremerton Speedway is having a novice day. We could benchmark mpg one way, then with DSC off with a Data logger... in the end it will be the person that drives the smoothes should be the fastest in my guessing...

ILoveFI 02-26-2008 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by whitebeau (Post 2316830)
LOL, stupid drivers is little extreme . ;) I like the DSC/tCS option when just driving from a-b, and ABS is beneficial in all road conditions except probably dry were locking your brakes can be usefull. (Rally drivers excluded).

But yeah, it does hamper the cars performance when driving at your limits, on the flipside it lets people easy into finding out what there cars limits are. I don't think 'everybody' here tracks their car on the weekends, but also appreciate the cars design, and performance vs value. Only other car i saw on the market that was comparative was an is-300... I don't know of another 4door rwd car out on the market that's in the same power/weight ratio.

I do hope the DSC gets revised though.. it gets pretty jerky if the back end comes out if you haven't tested it yet. Drifting can still be done with the DSC off and TCS on. :D:

Getting back on track to the thread. anybody want to do a test? Pacific Raceway in Seattle has an event coming up in March, and Bremerton Speedway is having a novice day. We could benchmark mpg one way, then with DSC off with a Data logger... in the end it will be the person that drives the smoothes should be the fastest in my guessing...

Yes, I actually just got the 8 less than a month ago, took it to an open space to test out the turning radius (the s14 didnt have a LSD :icon_no2: ) i noticed the rear end basically vibrates when the DSC kicks and was kind of weird to me, but I'll be testing the car's limits soon enough, bout to have my first autox event next month and I'll see how that goes. I'll be keeping the DSC on though, I don't know the 8's limits and don't consider myself at the level where I don't need DSC in my life, but can operate without it, just makes me pay a lot more attention to what the car is doing.

whitebeau 02-26-2008 01:27 AM

ahh... caution then with the DSC on in the 40-60mph range.. it will engage the rear abs and modulate to increase traction so oversteer doesn't occur..... i'm not to sure how well this would turn out on a snow day. (east coast represent?) in essence, it almost feels like the ebrake was pulled, throttle is all electronic so that usually gets modulated first...

hah! i had an s13 until i ping-ponged it on 3 walls on the freeway :) (Black Ice). welcome to the board...

mmats69 02-26-2008 01:33 AM

on another note, some insurance companies are now denying claims if it is determined DSC was not on at the time of the accident.

Roaddemon 02-26-2008 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by steverothery (Post 2314101)
gets an extra 20-30miles out of the tank? Is this true? I have a few of my mates saying it does with them?

Try turning off the the low and high Dsc. This car can really launch from a dead stop. Will spin tires and fish tail all the way through 1st and most of 2nd. Quite a rush of speed. I know it won't save gas that way. But more fun to drive.:)

whitebeau 02-26-2008 06:19 PM

LOL great.
 

Originally Posted by mmats69 (Post 2316872)
on another note, some insurance companies are now denying claims if it is determined DSC was not on at the time of the accident.

nice.. i wonder if the black box buffers that?

of things to come once State Patrol gets an OBD scanner to get a log dump :) i'm surprised they haven't already really.... it just makes sense. :eyetwitch

mike73737 02-26-2008 09:50 PM

The government needs warrants again? Hooray! Wait, is this going to put me on some watch list?


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