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BlackR3 03-24-2010 03:35 PM

Transitioning from 5W20 to 5W30
 
What is the best way to change oil types, given that only about 4 quarts come out? I'd like to move to 5W30 in my new R3 at the next (2nd) oil change at 3000 miles. Should I drain, refill, run then change oil and filter? Is it ok just change normal and change again in 3000 more miles running mixed? I know there are many, many threads on oil, didn't see this answered though. Thanks,

Lord ET 03-24-2010 03:41 PM

there is a method whereby you take out the drain bolt and raise and lower each side of the car one side at a time... this helps to get as much oil out as possible. However when you refill, you need to take note of how much oil you drained out. Some people get as much as 5 qts. out.

RIWWP 03-24-2010 03:42 PM

:uhh:

Just start using the new oil type. They are all compatible. In fact, very very few oils hold their viscosity to 3,000 miles in our engines anyway, so the oil you are draining is below 5w20, and at 3,000 miles of 5w30, it will be below the 5w20 you have now.

the "types" are literally just thicknesses. It's not like one is water and one is oil paint and one is whipped cream and one is liquid silicone and one is sludge.

Easy_E1 03-24-2010 03:59 PM

Drain and refill.

9krpmrx8 03-24-2010 04:19 PM

^ that. The numbers on the bottle mean very little.

BlackR3 03-24-2010 04:41 PM

Great, thanks all! I'm an RX-8 newbie, after having a Miata the past 8 years. I'm still trying to understand why folks say the RX-8 is slow..... sure drives quick to me.

Tamas 03-24-2010 06:57 PM

I wonder how much oil comes out if you use a pump to evacuate the oil through the dipstick tube...
Something like a Pela or Mityvac pump should get a lot more out than just raising and lowering both sides when draining the oil.

NotAPreppie 03-24-2010 07:42 PM

I got just shy of 4 qts using my extractor.
Not as much as when you fiddle with the jack but a whole hell of a lot easier and faster.

nycgps 03-24-2010 10:45 PM

I think schools should add this class called "Common Sense" ...

ArXate 03-25-2010 04:42 AM

Except the answer to his question isn't exactly common sense. Without some background with oils, the question of whether oils of different viscosities will just blend into each other is an intelligent one. One can't assume they will.

jasonrxeight 03-25-2010 09:49 AM

hummm, I dont even know what the dealer is putting in my engine.

9krpmrx8 03-25-2010 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by jasonrxeight (Post 3485653)
hummm, I dont even know what the dealer is putting in my engine.

Not to mention that different dealers use different brands of oil. A 5W-20 of one brand of oil maybe be equal to a 30W of another brand.

jasonrxeight 03-25-2010 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 3485666)
Not to mention that different dealers use different brands of oil. A 5W-20 of one brand of oil maybe be equal to a 30W of another brand.

errrm really? they say its mazda oil, I loled.:Freak_ani

ken-x8 03-25-2010 10:56 AM


A 5W-20 of one brand of oil maybe be equal to a 30W of another brand.
Only if it's mislabeled.

9krpmrx8 03-25-2010 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 3485785)
Only if it's mislabeled.

The label don't mean a whole lot. I have tested a bunch of samples of different oils in my 8 and if I didn't post the weights you would have a hard time figuring out which was which. Some oil just break down quicker than others in as soon as 1000-1500 miles.

xexok 03-25-2010 12:46 PM

This was posted in another thread on here, but its so good it deserves a re post. This tells you everything that you ever wanted to know about oil and probably more.

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136052

fyrstormer 03-26-2010 10:19 AM

Since rotaries burn oil, it seems to me the best way to "phase-in" the new oil is to just start topping-off with the new oil. Eventually all the old oil will be gone.

9krpmrx8 03-26-2010 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by fyrstormer (Post 3487491)
Since rotaries burn oil, it seems to me the best way to "phase-in" the new oil is to just start topping-off with the new oil. Eventually all the old oil will be gone.


Best way is to drain, fill with new oil, drive around for a few until car is hot again, drain, and fill, drive around again, drain, the refill.

nycgps 03-26-2010 11:12 AM

I still believe this belongs to the "common sense" group ...

heyarnold69 03-26-2010 11:17 AM

I lower and raise just the drivers side and everything comes out.... warm up the car a little and this process is greatly accelerated!

SheffieldSteel 03-26-2010 02:25 PM

Unless you're changing from one synthetic to another, there's really no need to worry about draining the maximum amount of oil. If anything, a gradual change is going to be easier on your engine.

ei8ht 03-28-2010 04:07 PM

If the factory says 5w20 why are you switching to 5w30?

I8U 03-28-2010 05:38 PM

^Stop talking.

ArXate 03-29-2010 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by ei8ht (Post 3490008)
If the factory says 5w20 why are you switching to 5w30?

You might should do a search and read a bunch of threads on oil in this forum first.

fyrstormer 03-31-2010 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 3487525)
Best way is to drain, fill with new oil, drive around for a few until car is hot again, drain, and fill, drive around again, drain, the refill.

Now you're just being silly.


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