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Sleepy-z 05-09-2008 04:08 PM

Thought some of you Rotary owners would like to see this...
 
Ok first this is coming from a Z person, I own a 280z and a 300zx but I am currently working for Mazda making remanufactured Rotary motors. I have had the pleasure of being trained the last few months on rebuilding the motor under the master builder(I call him TT or Yoshii for short) from mazda. They flew him in from the hiroshima plant to train us on how to build it and gave us the specialty tools to do so. Anyways I have a new respect for the rotary, its flawed but only becuase most owners dont know they really want you to drive it fast(high rpms). Here are a few pics I thought I would share with you.....
Sorry for the quality, I used TT's camera.
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/SANY0354.JPG

http://www.photodump.org/stored23/SANY0356.JPG

http://www.photodump.org/stored23/SANY0357.JPG

http://www.photodump.org/stored23/SANY0359.JPG

http://www.photodump.org/stored23/SANY0360.JPG
TT(Yoshi), he has been bulding the rx-7/8 motors for 15 years now, I made him pose and hold a rotor for me :p
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/SANY0361.JPG

Red Devil 05-09-2008 04:10 PM

Very cool. Thanks for sharing.

Spinning Sushi 05-09-2008 04:11 PM

Anyone holding a rotor giving a thumbs up while smiling is always sexy no matter what the gender. :)

CyberPitz 05-09-2008 04:26 PM

Awesome. Pure awesome.

robrecht 05-09-2008 04:56 PM

Cool, thanks. I'm happy to hear Mazda is training you guys well!

Sleepy-z 05-09-2008 05:04 PM

Yeah they are training us very well, they used to outsource the rebulds to a company in SC but they didn't like there consistancy or product and decided to try there hands at it. After a year or two we will also rebuild transmission but for now we are focusing on 13B's. BTW some advice to all you owners, premium gas is a must and dont be afraid to high rev it at all, theruild upe is a lot of carbon build up on the side seals(no compression) and the corner seals are also a bitch to get out of the cores due to the carbon build up which is more then likely due to slow city cruising....open her up, she likes it. I figure most of the owners that are causing those issues are probably not familiar with the rotary unlike a rx8 forum by just fyi.

robrecht 05-09-2008 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Sleepy-z (Post 2454375)
Yeah they are training us very well, they used to outsource the rebulds to a company in SC but they didn't like there consistancy or product and decided to try there hands at it. After a year or two we will also rebuild transmission but for now we are focusing on 13B's. BTW some advice to all you owners, premium gas is a must and dont be afraid to high rev it at all, theruild upe is a lot of carbon build up on the side seals(no compression) and the corner seals are also a bitch to get out of the cores due to the carbon build up which is more then likely due to slow city cruising....open her up, she likes it. I figure most of the owners that are causing those issues are probably not familiar with the rotary unlike a rx8 forum by just fyi.

Thanks a lot. I hope you stick around and share what you're learning. Most everyone here knows to rev the shit out of these engines but we're true rotorheads and love learning more and more about these engines. There's also a few genuine rotory experts here that you might enjoy reading. Thanks again.

Go48 05-09-2008 05:16 PM

Thanks for the info! It would be nice to see some pics of the carbon buildup.

Soapflake 05-09-2008 05:20 PM

So what is the verdict on synthetic oil?! Sorry, just had to ask :lol: :lol: :lol:

Getinit07 05-09-2008 05:43 PM

whats so special ab that car ..? we have one exactly like it at charlie obaugh in stanton.

Sleepy-z 05-09-2008 05:55 PM

nothing special about that car, although for the first few weeks we had a rx8 there for the employees to test drive, it actually had no vin# at all on that one and I found that pretty cool. They borrowed that rx8 in the photo from a dealer nearby for a press confrence the other day there and a group photo its nothing special. I just made the guy(tt) take a photo next to it since he made the motor inside it, kinda cool imo. As for synthetic, I dont know, I just tear down and rebuild, personally I would just go with non synthetic since carbon is you major problem, seriously we have rotors that are solid black and there is no compression on any of the side/apex springs just about. Also I would not recommend using any engine cleaner in the way of putting it in the oil/gas like seafoam, there opinion on that stuff is the carbon just breaks off and gets lodged elsewhere which can end up being worse.

Sleepy-z 05-09-2008 06:08 PM

btw sorry for the huge pics normally I resize them but I used TT's camera for these and forgot to resize

Soapflake 05-09-2008 06:12 PM

Np. I'm sure most of us have broadband :p:

mid-life crisis 05-09-2008 06:15 PM

Glad to hear Mazda is putting more effort into the rebuild quality. I had a replacement and the first one was bad. You probably got my engine to rebuild - replaced in March 08. My engine failure was catastrophic - sounded like a rotor came or something inside came apart when it failed. Have you run into any failures like that yet?

Sleepy-z 05-09-2008 06:33 PM

They have us starting on the 6 spd AT motors first, so far mostly compression failures from what I here. They sorta dumped the housing/rotor assembly prior to main assembly section on me and another person so I dont see too much from disassemble but I peak my head in every now and then on them to see what I got coming later on in the day.

robrecht 05-09-2008 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Sleepy-z (Post 2454489)
nothing special about that car, although for the first few weeks we had a rx8 there for the employees to test drive, it actually had no vin# at all on that one and I found that pretty cool.

That is so cool!

04RX8man 05-09-2008 06:45 PM

yeah this is awesome! That is cool to see it from the heart of the "plant"

DaveCM203 05-09-2008 06:51 PM

Glad to have you one here. It is also nice to see that you have taken a real interest in our car. It also seems that you take a lot of pride in what you do. Maybe you will be a convert.

zoom44 05-09-2008 06:52 PM

thanks for popping in here . we've been hearing about your new plant since it was announced earlier this year and just in the last day when they announced it was open. We here are WAYYYY happy that mazda has taken this on themselves and are not using that other company any more. Cool that you met Yoshii too.

I hear they are going to use that space as Tech Training for the East coast as well so people dont have to go all the way to irvine.


Thanks again for the pics and keep in touch.

oh - one question- are you only seeing RX-8 motors or will you be doing older rotaries and other non-rotary engines there?

- charlie

Go48 05-09-2008 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Sleepy-z (Post 2454489)
<<SNIPPED>> Also I would not recommend using any engine cleaner in the way of putting it in the oil/gas like seafoam, there opinion on that stuff is the carbon just breaks off and gets lodged elsewhere which can end up being worse.

Hmmm, that's interesting. You should read this service bulletin:
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...14-08-1924.pdf

AJ's Shinka 05-09-2008 07:38 PM

This is very good to hear. I was very worried if my engine blew it was gonna be by some prisoner in SC.

bigireland 05-09-2008 07:44 PM

great thread..

CarAndDriver 05-09-2008 08:24 PM

Great to hear from an insider.

HockeyRX-8 05-09-2008 08:26 PM

Sweet pics. I really like the first one,

j67345 05-09-2008 08:37 PM

I really like that first pic


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