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Wolfer 08-13-2003 01:56 PM

Start trouble
 
My rx8 has almost 1k miles on it. I've noticed it sometimes takes 2 tries to get it started. I dont' like cranking it so it doesn't flood.


Haven't had a problem in the past it started right up. Anyone else notice this?

If it's having problems now to get started I just can't wait till winter.

Maybe it just needs more revvving.

dcfc3s 08-13-2003 02:22 PM

You may just not be giving it enough "key" to start it. Does it typically not start when cold in the morning, during a hot start, what?

Just trying to eliminate user error from "by design".

Mazda designed it to take a little longer to crank before firing - about 1-2 seconds of cranking before the engine lights. The RX-7 was/is the same way.

Dale

Wolfer 08-13-2003 02:32 PM

Hot start after it sits for a bit. Morning starts haven't had a problem. Starts after 2 seconds.

I crank it for about 4 seconds then try again.

Maybe I should crank it a bit longer then I'm used to.

akrx8 08-13-2003 10:35 PM

my car is the same way,starts almost instantly in the morning stone cold and when warm cranks like 2 to 3 seconds before it fires off.never owned a rotary before so i contribute it to the design.when warm i just crank till i see the white dash lights start to come on and it starts every time.

P00Man 08-13-2003 10:42 PM

ive noticed, as well as some others, that it has a slight delay on starting, like you twist it, release it, then it starts

and also that it does seem to take slightly longer to start than a piston engine
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sferrett 08-13-2003 10:50 PM


Originally posted by P00Man
ive noticed, as well as some others, that it has a slight delay on starting, like you twist it, release it, then it starts

and also that it does seem to take slightly longer to start than a piston engine

Hmm you haven't tried to start my jeep lately... It's got 20k miles on it now and generally takes 5 seconds of cranking (sometimes a little more) especially if you haven't started it for a while. I attribute it to building fuel pressure or something and just live with it.

My rx8 generally starts within 1 or 2 seconds of cranking, and I can't say I've noticed any difference between hot and cold starts yet. I did think it turned over a little slower than other rotaries I've had the pleasure of starting, and I'm guessing the higher compression might be the explanation for that (although could be anything - I'm sure the starter is different from the FC or FD) I have about 1500 miles on it so far and I dont recall it starting any differently back when it was <500miles.

zoom44 08-14-2003 11:54 AM

hmm.. try this. turn the key to the on position and leave it there for a second or 2 until the dash fully lights up. if you listen closely you here a noise from the engine, which i attribute to the oil injectors doing their job. then turn the key and crank it. it will start in about 3 seconds. i do this every time cold or warm and have not had the delay that your speaking about.

vaughnc 08-14-2003 12:26 PM

This may go away as the engine breaks in. My 1989 Convertible RX-7 doesn't have cold or hot start issues, and the engine has 122K miles on it.

I believe the starter spins the motor at 1500 rpms (vs 800rpms or so for a piston engine), so it's not a lack of rpms or cranking amps.

AC TL 08-15-2003 09:27 PM

Tried to start a velocity red yesterday and it took about 1-2 seconds to start.

MikeW 08-17-2003 09:48 AM


Originally posted by vaughnc
This may go away as the engine breaks in. My 1989 Convertible RX-7 doesn't have cold or hot start issues, and the engine has 122K miles on it.

I believe the starter spins the motor at 1500 rpms (vs 800rpms or so for a piston engine), so it's not a lack of rpms or cranking amps.

I'd like to know what kind of car that has a starter that cranks the engine to 800rpms. My car it is about 75rpms. (50 rpms on a cold start in the winter to 100rpms for a hot restart in winter)

RXhusker 08-17-2003 09:51 AM

I've had the same "problem" but have decided it is an operator issue not a car issue. Now I just look at the tach and have not had a problem since. The engine is so smooth that you just can't feel it when it starts like a piston engine -- since I started using the tach as a guide instead of "feel" I haven't has an issue.


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