overall.. were all human, but all with different IQ's... there will always be the smart one.. the idiot.. the drunk.. the stupid.. the sleepy.. the angry.. the foolish.. the *******.. the ppl on the phone while driving.. the distracted.. parents who let their kids play around in the vehicle without proper restraint (really stupid).. the list goes on.. what matters most is you looking out for own safety.. especially while driving a sports car.. sometimes speeding up or slowing down can prevent an accident.. what I've done before and continue to do for my own safety.. when I notice a vehicle of any sort, driving abnormal.. I get the hell out of there way.. lots of drunks in vegas.. drive safely and buckle up

 

You are wrong. There's no such thing as "safe street racing". Racing in any form is always dangerous. Especially when you have inexperienced people behind a wheel with a falso ego to go with it. Street racing is even more dangerous because everyone is ill prepared. They're prepared to trash talk, drive straight, and try to run when the cops come.

Knowing the limits of your car...you're wrong. Unless tracking your car is a common event, NO ONE knows the real limits of their car. And it's not even the limit of the car! It's the limits of the DRIVER.

 

+1

The known unknowns are only the beginning. It's the unknown unknowns that get innocent people killed.

The 8 may have good brakes but at 100mph if a kid runs into the street 100meters in front of you; you will be spending several years in jail for manslaughter, while a body shop spends several months cleaning child out of your oil coolers.

Do you really want to be making the bet that Grandpa edwin in his oldsmobile sees you barreling down the road before he backs out into the street from his driveway?

Or what about miss soccer mom, cell phone in one hand, smacking her kids with the other, and steering with her knee. Do you trust her to see you too before changing lanes?

You might even be the one to kill Bambi's mother if you get lucky. Deer LOVE crossing those deserted roads out in the middle of nowhere.

Street racing is dangerous because there are too many variables you have no control over. Take it to a track.

(that said, on an empty stretch of highway I have WOT all the way to 6th, and probably will again should the conditions be right. So I guess i'm a no good **** too.)

 

You guys seem to be debating the points of racing through neighborhoods and populated area? I think theres NO reason to ever SPEED through anywhere there are pedestrians or driveways. I think people should get a huge fine and have their licenses taken away temporarily for speeding through neighborhoods or any area that has a 30mph speed limit or below. If you RACE somebody through a neighborhood, I'd think the death penalty would be appropriate.

I usually drive about 5-10 mph below the limit in areas like that. I just doesn't make any sense... people too stupid nowadays to do the simple math and realize that the amount of time you save is negligible. Get out on open highway and tear it up, or find a empty road to carve up some twisties, but you have a car pull near you on a residential throroughfare, and have the thought "race" cross your mind, and I'd say you're a pathological maniac and menace to society.

I like pie too.

 

Nope I am debating racing on any street and not a track.

The story I cited about the kid being killed in his front yard was on a a road in the middle of a bunch of cane fields, not many houses around the driver just happened to lose control where there was one in the middle of no where.

Lose gravel, a wet spot anything can reach out and grab you on a public street and when you are pushing to the edge there is no room for error.

At least on a track you know what is coming and what is out there and if you screw up you most likely on mess yourself or your car up.

 

It dosen't matter how hard you ram this subject down peoples throat there will always be a few who will act outside the norm. Thats life in a nutshell

....but if we can mitigate the incidence of careless and dangerous driving on forums like ours, the better off we are....

 

Its about the drivers personality...the guy in the porsche or bmw will generally get a warning if the infraction is not that big of a deal...because they are considered generally harmless obviously successful members of society...

Drivers in stangs, 350z, srt-4, and other obvious implements of cheaper speed are generally people who are into cheap thrills and low impulse control...

The lower in original price of vehicle...and the more expensive the owner has made it appear...can only mean that the driver is a criminal of course...

The RX-8 is nice in that it looks nice enough to have cops be lenient with you like if you were in a BMW...my current running record is 4 warnings this last year alone...heh

90 in a 55 @ 1am one night in a remote part of the hill country...came around a nice wide sweeping curve that turns into a nice almost .75mi downhill straight, followed by a hill...

trooper was traveling in the opposite direction and crested the hill out in the distance and...saw me entering the corner and exiting fast...as I had seen the headlights in the distance, once I came out of the corner, I immediately slowed down to 60...

A few seconds later he pull me over..."I didn't get you on radar, but we both know you were way over the limit buddy, where's the fire?"

At first he was a little pissed, but as always I was nice and as respectful as possible...explained that I was going to San Antonio and decided to take the scenic route...we go into a conversation about the car a little bit and I answered some of his questions about it...and then he let me off...

"Stop driving like an idiot...the deer are migrating"

 

this morning i was heading up to the shop to do some small work on the rx8 when a little s10 cuts me off in a construction zome, so i pull up next to him at the stop light and just point and laugh, so then he keeps tryin to race me, we come to a section in the road where it goes from a 4 lane road to a 2 lane, and once again he cuts me off. then he tries to show off, cause he has hydrolics on his truck. once again i laugh, so he starts to use the hydrolics goin side to side, and the idiot loweres his right rear side when he goes over some railroad tracks and cracks his rear roll pan, so i drive by and laugh so hard i start to cry, why do all these little s10 try to race me all the time?

 

I don't get too many people trying to race me in my 8 actually. Fortunately.

 

Driving itself is a dangerous activity that kills scores of people every day, who were obeying the speed limit, not drinking, and wearing seatbelts.

I can rag on street racers all day for unnecessarily endangering others, but as long as I continue to use my driving privileges, I am myself endangering others, albeit to a lesser extent. The most responsible thing to do, if someone was really that bleeding heart serious about it, would be to simply not drive.

Any takers? Did not think so.

At least he's not drinking alcohol.