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balletsushigirl 01-08-2004 10:11 PM


Originally posted by rot8n
This car has issues. i called mazda about the mpg an for best mpg they told me to shifted before 2500 RPM's. and the clutche isn't strong enough to handle the RPM's on the down shitf and my trany went out and i've only had this car for two months and it's been in the shop for 3 weeks already.
jez -- that's rotten luck!!!
sorry to hear about that.
good luck to you in the new year.
it can only get better from here, huh?

-BSG

Arthur 01-10-2004 06:31 PM

Somewhat dissatisfied--they need to fix the flooding issue. It's happened to me twice this week even following the dealer instructions. In my opinion this is a major design flaw and I'm not happy about it.

rieskame 01-11-2004 04:05 PM

Worst vehicle that i have ever owned. Pray everyday that the car starts. Service department awful with the flooding issue. Have met with the sales manager about trying to push for a buyback or close to it. A blue G35 coupe 6 speed is going to be delivered to the local Infiniti dealership and has my name on it if I can dump this.

Racer X-8 01-11-2004 08:58 PM


Originally posted by rieskame
Worst vehicle that i have ever owned.
You're 22, right? Shuh. Six years of being legally licensed. Whoo! You were still sucking on your momma's titties when my main steed was a '73 Fiat 124 Sport Spider which I bought new when I was your age, just like the way you bought your 8.

1 month of a minor problem, like not being able to understand how not to flood this rotary engine & you want to jump to the next car, which, guess what?...you won't like it even as much.

See ya, looser!

RX8-TX 01-11-2004 09:22 PM


Originally posted by Racer X-8
You're 22, right? Shuh. Six years of being legally licensed. Whoo! You were still sucking on your momma's titties when my main steed was a '73 Fiat 124 Sport Spider which I bought new when I was your age, just like the way you bought your 8.

1 month of a minor problem, like not being able to understand how not to flood this rotary engine & you want to jump to the next car, which, guess what?...you won't like it even as much.

See ya, looser!

Racer, c'mon. Respect the guys opinion. That's what this thread's for. I, on the other hand, still have to manage to flood mine. In my opinion, it's not a matter of knowledge, it's a matter of willignness. Are you willing to warm-up your car before shutting it down? Are you gonna make sure it has reached operating tempertature if you only had to move it a notch because of an annoying neighbour asking you to move out of their property line? Are you willing to walk to the restaurant next block not to move your car and have to wait for it to warm up again?

There are several reasons one can end up being fed up by such 'rotary treat.' For what its worth, I don't mind: the car is rewarding to drive despite all its flaws. I drive the same car all of you are driving, although there are several different opinions about it. Why? to each its own.

Have a good one!

Racer X-8 01-11-2004 09:48 PM

RX8-TX, I hear ya, but,,,

I'm respecting his opinion about as far as I can. The kid is writing like he's some kind of authority on cars. He's just finally grown himself a full crop of underarm hair. For crying out loud... A person's gotta know from whom the story is written. On this forum, his bantering carries as much weight as Mario Andretti, if he were a forum member. Know what I'm saying? We gotta keep things in perspective here...at least try just a little.

241Commuter 01-11-2004 11:06 PM

Racer - Don't agree with you at all. 22 years old and already has enough maturity to know that flooding cars is not normal in this day and age, and makes no bones about it. When I was 22 I would have grit my teeth and stuck through a bad decision. I haven't flooded - yet - but if it happens I'll probably be saying much the same stuff. A $30k car shouldn't do stupid things like flood. This is an engineering defect. reiskame is calling it as he sees it - well - maybe with just a touch of internet-standard hyperbole.

RX8-TX 01-12-2004 12:14 AM


Originally posted by bernieunger
Racer - Don't agree with you at all. 22 years old and already has enough maturity to know that flooding cars is not normal in this day and age, and makes no bones about it. When I was 22 I would have grit my teeth and stuck through a bad decision. I haven't flooded - yet - but if it happens I'll probably be saying much the same stuff. A $30k car shouldn't do stupid things like flood. This is an engineering defect. reiskame is calling it as he sees it - well - maybe with just a touch of internet-standard hyperbole.
Darn it to all of you...I am just a tad over 22...23 to be precise. And while I am no authority or expert in the field (nor any field for that matter) I believe we all have common sense. I am new to rataries, and, while I knew about apex seals (most 'in'famous subject about rotaries from what I've heard) I had no idea about engine flooding. In other words, I had no idea what all the kinks of a rotary where until I started hanging 'round here. I don't regret the decission at all...maybe will talk about it later on (with 100K miles in the odometer..) but for now, I am a happy camper.

We will have to wait and see...at least, I know what I am running for. Others might not have been that lucky. In all, PEACE!

Racer X-8 01-12-2004 06:50 AM

OK, well, I can't say I'm suprised at a couple of people who disagree. (Especially the younger set, and I sympathize with that emotion.) But it's posts like those of rieskame that make the RX-8 look like an incompetant POS. Go back and read it again.

That's my only problem here, cuz it's definitely not a POS at all. I would be bashing the car too if everybody was flooding all the time, all over the place. It's not. Mine hasn't flooded at all. A large majority (7 out of 8, last time I looked at the poll) have not flooded at all, and most who have flooded theirs understand what they did wrong and won't let it happen again.

Those who refuse to learn are bound to re-live the situation. It won't not happen just because you spent $30k and don't think a $30k car shouldn't make you do anything special to maintain it. If someone would consider that fact as a reason to place it in the POS category, well, fine. Everybody has an opinion.

RX8-TX 01-12-2004 09:00 AM


Originally posted by Racer X-8
OK, well, I can't say I'm suprised at a couple of people who disagree. (Especially the younger set, and I sympathize with that emotion.) But it's posts like those of rieskame that make the RX-8 look like an incompetant POS. Go back and read it again.

That's my only problem here, cuz it's definitely not a POS at all. I would be bashing the car too if everybody was flooding all the time, all over the place. It's not. Mine hasn't flooded at all. A large majority (7 out of 8, last time I looked at the poll) have not flooded at all, and most who have flooded theirs understand what they did wrong and won't let it happen again.

Those who refuse to learn are bound to re-live the situation. It won't not happen just because you spent $30k and don't think a $30k car shouldn't make you do anything special to maintain it. If someone would consider that fact as a reason to place it in the POS category, well, fine. Everybody has an opinion.

Racer, let me try to put things in perspective: if you have over 300 votes in favor of the 'completely' satifsfied people, and those votes represent close to 80% of the opinion, and you come by this thread and think the RX8 is a 'POS' as some people have called it....you shouldn't even have a license. A driver's license requires 'common sense' and if you don't have enough of that to realize that the car is keeping those who own it, 'happy' in its majority....well...

That's why I started this thread in the first place. To put things a little bit in perspective for all of us. I don't know how many votes can be counted as valid: many non-owners could have simply voted the best or worst, just because the felt like it. I don't know.

What I do know: if I was new to all this, and was coming from the outside, I'd be looking for the car's weaknesses. Well....there aren't those many, and they haven't shaded all of us. In fact, it seems that we are the most careless car community......flooding problems, transmissions blown, engines replaced, bad gas mileage, oil consumption, HP downgrade...etc. However, these haven't prevented the opinion to be highly in favor of the vehicle: there's gotta be something in it that keeps us coming (driving) for more every day!

Ufffffff, what a way to start the day! Have a good one all of you!

93rdcurrent 01-12-2004 01:42 PM

My wife was having trouble starting her Audi a while back and she flooded the car as a result. Not because she stepped on the gas pedal but because she was only giving the car about 3 seconds to turn over. Normally it doesn't take so long but for whatever reason it was this time and the engine definately flooded. So I guess in this day and age you can flood more than just an RX-8 without needing to do anything special.

241Commuter 01-12-2004 03:09 PM


Originally posted by 93rdcurrent
My wife was having trouble starting her Audi a while back ....So I guess in this day and age you can flood more than just an RX-8 without needing to do anything special.
Yeah, but I bet she didn't have to get a tow to the dealer to get unstuck.:mad:

jonalan 01-12-2004 04:44 PM


Originally posted by Arthur
Somewhat dissatisfied--they need to fix the flooding issue. It's happened to me twice this week even following the dealer instructions. In my opinion this is a major design flaw and I'm not happy about it.
No offense Arthur, but if you flooded the car twice in one week, you didn't follow the "dealer instructions" or there is something else wrong with your particular car.

msrecant 01-12-2004 05:24 PM


Originally posted by jonalan
No offense Arthur, but if you flooded the car twice in one week, you didn't follow the "dealer instructions" or there is something else wrong with your particular car.
Why is it not OK for someone to have an opinion other than "completely satisfied"?

Are you calling Arthur a liar? He said he followed "dealer instructions".

Certainly repeated flooding would make me "somewhat dissatisfied". And if there is something else wrong with his particular car, then I would think that would still be a good reason for Arthur to be "somewhat dissatisfied".

93rdcurrent 01-12-2004 07:16 PM

bernieunger,

You're right she didn't need it towed to the dealer for that problem but how about twice for a fried ingnitor and twice at the dealer for sunroof controls in a 1.5 year period. For some reason the sunroof wants to open on its own and refuses to close after words. Can be a problem when it's cold or cold and snowing.

Racer X-8 01-12-2004 08:47 PM


Originally posted by 93rdcurrent
bernieunger,

You're right she didn't need it towed to the dealer for that problem but how about twice for a fried ingnitor and twice at the dealer for sunroof controls in a 1.5 year period. For some reason the sunroof wants to open on its own and refuses to close after words. Can be a problem when it's cold or cold and snowing.

He's talking about his wife's AUDI folks.

Sorry 93rdcurrent, but this is for those who read your post & thought you were talking about an RX-8 (you know, duh, stupid people such as I :confused: )...

241Commuter 01-12-2004 08:52 PM


Originally posted by 93rdcurrent
bernieunger,

You're right she didn't need it towed to the dealer for that problem but how about twice for a fried ingnitor and twice at the dealer for sunroof controls in a 1.5 year period. For some reason the sunroof wants to open on its own and refuses to close after words. Can be a problem when it's cold or cold and snowing.

I admit that's inconvenient, and doesn't really live up to the "German quality" myth. The question I have is, are these inheritent problems with the Audi or random problems? The stalling issue has happened to about 20% of those responding to our unscientific poll, and the car's only been out for a half year or so. I think I detect a pattern here...

What annoys me is that, after all these generations of 7's, the flooding issue is a known problem. With the haitus of a few years to get it right, I would have expected an incremental improvement. Instead, it sure looks like we had some serious backsliding. Unforgivable.

That's some sunroof you got there.

Racer X-8 01-12-2004 09:10 PM

14.3% (16 flooded it out of 112 responders)

15.4% if you want to remove those 8 "don't give a rat's ass" responses. Heavy on the automatic owners (about 1/3 of them flooded it). I wonder how many flooding victims didn't have to resort to a trip to the service shop?

You're right though, very unscientific - oh well.

balletsushigirl 01-12-2004 10:56 PM


Originally posted by RX8-TX
Racer, c'mon. Respect the guys opinion. That's what this thread's for.
amen to you!

we difinitely need to be tolerant of the expression of opinions that are different from our own. if we weren't interested in reading other people's opinions, none of us would be subscribing to a site that promotes the spreading of exactly that!!

happy new year, btw!

-BSG

Racer X-8 01-12-2004 11:10 PM

Just like you are tolerant of the expression of my opinion?

I get it.

Happy New Year to you too, btw!

RX8-TX 01-12-2004 11:27 PM


Originally posted by Racer X-8
Just like you are tolerant of the expression of my opinion?

I get it.

Happy New Year to you too, btw!

C'mon people, this is a message board. I didn't try to offend anyone, and I know you Racer didn't try to do it either. We have our opinions, and we sure do have different experience.

Point #1, I don't want this thread to go down the toilet. If it does, it will be a failure to my original premise: short, concise and to the point posts. (see, now I am screwing up my own thread...damn! gotta get some sleep!) See ya'll around! :D

Racer X-8 01-12-2004 11:33 PM

HEY! WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!?!

JK haha. :D ;) :D

You are absolutely right RX8-TX. :)

OK, I won't stink it up any more than I already have. Sorry. It never works anyway. I should have known better. :(

93rdcurrent 01-13-2004 12:43 PM

bernieunger,

I haven't checked to see if the ingniter problem is something Audi has been dealing with I just know about our car. I do know that Hondas were dealing with it a while back. I can remember several of my friends with Hondas towing there cars to the dealers to figure out what was keeping their cars from starting. Ignitors on every one of them. Interesting. Flooding has not been a problem on my car but I bet that most of the people who haven't experienced a problem with it haven't posted but I will say that most who have flooded most likely did post.

jonalan 01-13-2004 01:53 PM


Originally posted by msrecant
Why is it not OK for someone to have an opinion other than "completely satisfied"?

Are you calling Arthur a liar? He said he followed "dealer instructions".

Certainly repeated flooding would make me "somewhat dissatisfied". And if there is something else wrong with his particular car, then I would think that would still be a good reason for Arthur to be "somewhat dissatisfied".

You may want to re-read my post. I didn't even comment on his opinion. He's entitled.

Again, re-read my post. I never called him a liar (your words). I said he either didn't follow the instructions (he may have thought he did, but possibly didn't, exactly) OR there is something else wrong with HIS car.

msrecant 01-13-2004 02:31 PM


Originally posted by jonalan
You may want to re-read my post. I didn't even comment on his opinion. He's entitled.
Since you quoted his complete post, I initially took your comment as a challenge to all aspects of his entire statement.

However, in reviewing your post, along with your elaboration, I can see what you intended which, as you say, does not comment on his opinion.


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