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ddawson88 03-14-2013 12:52 PM

Rx8 warranty ending soon
 
I have a 2005 rx8 and my warranty is up in april. I made an appt for next week because my engine has been having slight problems and. For example a noticable burning smell, on occasion a rough idle but no lights like check engine. Just changed my oil 200 miles ago There also is a massive amount of white crap on the dipstick, I know a common problem but not near as much as this. I was just asking for some advice on what to say and what not to say or what to ask for like a compression test or something? thanks

Lvis 03-14-2013 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by ddawson88 (Post 4440176)
I have a 2005 rx8 and my warranty is up in april. I made an appt for next week because my engine has been having slight problems and. For example a noticable burning smell, on occasion a rough idle but no lights like check engine. Just changed my oil 200 miles ago synthetic mobil 1 5-20 (Previous owner ran synthetic). There also is a massive amount of white crap on the dipstick, I know a common problem but not near as much as this. I was just asking for some advice on what to say and what not to say or what to ask for like a compression test or something? thanks

bump i notice i have that white stuff on my dipstick also(that normal??) but on a side note my car does have perfect compression and no issues at 81k

i would get a compression test (not at the dealer) then if its no good report to the dealer asap.Never tell them or give them reciepts stating u were using synthetic

ddawson88 03-14-2013 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Lvis (Post 4440190)
bump i notice i have that white stuff on my dipstick also(that normal??) but on a side note my car does have perfect compression and no issues at 81k

i would get a compression test (not at the dealer) then if its no good report to the dealer asap.Never tell them or give them reciepts stating u were using synthetic

Why not get a test from the dealer? the cost? and yeah the white stuff is normal but I'm not sure about the amount I have. You must be in a colder weather area as well. Does your tranny knock a bit when cold when switching from 1st to 2nd?

Lvis 03-14-2013 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by ddawson88 (Post 4440197)
Thanks I wont tell them about the oil. Why not get a test from the dealer? the cost? and yeah the white stuff is normal but I'm not sure about the amount I have. You must be in a colder weather area as well. Does your tranny knock a bit when cold when switching from 1st to 2nd?

yea it does im in NY but i thought it might have been my motor mounts affecting it (its not bad though) I wouldnt take it to the dealer for the first compression test... whos to say they wont straight up lie to you to avoid the swap, even if it is mazda dont trust them. Get a test with someone familiar with rotarys and ask for the print out then give it to mazda. At that point they will do there own comp test and just make sure u ask to 'see' the results

rx8fan23 03-14-2013 07:41 PM

just get the dealer to give you a copy of the test

ddawson88 03-14-2013 08:22 PM

I know a few guys who work there and they seem honest. I will ask for the results though just so when I "sell" it. I just need to make sure it is good for a while since I'm broke and wont have money to get a new one after the warranty. Thanks for the responses.

ddawson88 03-14-2013 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Lvis (Post 4440409)
yea it does im in NY but i thought it might have been my motor mounts affecting it (its not bad though) I wouldnt take it to the dealer for the first compression test... whos to say they wont straight up lie to you to avoid the swap, even if it is mazda dont trust them. Get a test with someone familiar with rotarys and ask for the print out then give it to mazda. At that point they will do there own comp test and just make sure u ask to 'see' the results

Yeah its more of a click and slight gear hit than a knock but I just was wondering if that was only my 8. Only does it when its cold though

RIWWP 03-14-2013 08:41 PM

Condensation on the dipstick is entirely normal for rotaries, and should burn off after a session of wankle spanking. However, it could also be a coolant seal failure if it's excessive and just simply doesn't go away. Get the oil tested to be sure if you suspect the latter.

monchie 03-15-2013 08:34 PM

Mine is about to expire in April too of this year. The only problem i have is the coolant light is on since last year. I know that the problem is at the coolant sensor, and the warranty for that is over. On the engine, i only have 38k miles on the odometer and there is no problem as far as i know. I was thinking about getting a compression test on the engine before the warranty expires in April, but i'm still thinking about it, not sure yet...

ddawson88 03-15-2013 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by monchie (Post 4441003)
Mine is about to expire in April too of this year. The only problem i have is the coolant light is on since last year. I know that the problem is at the coolant sensor, and the warranty for that is over. On the engine, i only have 38k miles on the odometer and there is no problem as far as i know. I was thinking about getting a compression test on the engine before the warranty expires in April, but i'm still thinking about it, not sure yet...

I just figure I may as well. I take care of it and if something is wrong I'd rather get it done for free than a few thousand down the road

monchie 03-16-2013 01:56 AM


Originally Posted by ddawson88 (Post 4441032)
I just figure I may as well. I take care of it and if something is wrong I'd rather get it done for free than a few thousand down the road


I know...its better to be safe than sorry. I don't want to pay $150 for a compression test and find out that your engine is still fine, i don't know...

xexok 03-16-2013 10:58 AM

Well Monchie you could always ask phils8 if you could use his compression tester to help you decide if its worth it to have the dealer do it. It is still worth paying the dealer before your warranty is up anyway. It would be foolish not to do a compression test at all.

monchie 03-16-2013 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by xexok (Post 4441196)
Well Monchie you could always ask phils8 if you could use his compression tester to help you decide if its worth it to have the dealer do it. It is still worth paying the dealer before your warranty is up anyway. It would be foolish not to do a compression test at all.


Thanks xexok, i'll think about it, i might pm Phil if i want to do it...thanks again.

ken-x8 03-16-2013 12:47 PM


i notice i have that white stuff on my dipstick
There's a service bulletin on that. You're out of warranty for that kind of thing, but I don't think the fix was expensive. Worth looking up if the white stuff bothers you.

Ken

ddawson88 03-16-2013 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 4441260)
There's a service bulletin on that. You're out of warranty for that kind of thing, but I don't think the fix was expensive. Worth looking up if the white stuff bothers you.

Ken

So thats actually a problem? Everywhere I read said it was just normal? I will talk to my dealer about it, they seem pretty understanding.

04RX8man 03-17-2013 12:05 AM

According to Mazda and most manufactures the comp test will be required to be done by a dealer to be considered for warranty. And most shops don't have the correct comp tester to do a rotary. Just go to the dealer and ask for the results.

ken-x8 03-17-2013 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by ddawson88 (Post 4441374)
So thats actually a problem? Everywhere I read said it was just normal? I will talk to my dealer about it, they seem pretty understanding.

Not really a problem. Just cosmetic, and common through '05. I've never had that occur on my '06. It's worth asking them about it when you bring it in next week.

Ken

ddawson88 03-17-2013 02:55 PM

Ok I'm just getting a compression test done and asking about the white stuff. I will get a paper print out and upload it tuesday

monchie 03-17-2013 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by 04RX8man (Post 4441541)
According to Mazda and most manufactures the comp test will be required to be done by a dealer to be considered for warranty. And most shops don't have the correct comp tester to do a rotary. Just go to the dealer and ask for the results.


That's what i thought. They would not honor any outside shops that do this kind of test.

04RX8man 03-17-2013 08:08 PM

Exactly. They have to sent the comp numbers to Mazda North America before they can get approval for a new engine.

ddawson88 03-17-2013 09:47 PM

From what I understand though the test is free if there is a problem with the engine.

ddawson88 03-19-2013 10:40 AM

When I tried to start my 8 this morning it wouldn't start. Wouldn't catch then the battery died. AAA jumped me and was late to my appt for the compression test but just to add now my traction control light is stuck on! Never had a problem before today with my 8. The guy said he wanted to see if it was throwing codes which would cost 90 then compression if i wanted for another 90 not sure about the traction control though.

RIWWP 03-19-2013 10:43 AM

If the battery is disconnected or discharged sufficiently, the ECU loses all "learned parameters", including fuel trims, steering position, wheel diameters, etc... The TCS light remains on until after it gathers steering information by turning the wheel from lock to lock, your choice of directions. The DSC remains on until after it gathers rolling data and the car is shut off then re-started.

04RX8man 03-19-2013 10:50 AM

When my motor went the dealership tried to tell me I had to pay for the comp test regardless of the results. But when it failed they covered it . I only had to pay for plugs,wires and coils

ddawson88 03-19-2013 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4442605)
If the battery is disconnected or discharged sufficiently, the ECU loses all "learned parameters", including fuel trims, steering position, wheel diameters, etc... The TCS light remains on until after it gathers steering information by turning the wheel from lock to lock, your choice of directions. The DSC remains on until after it gathers rolling data and the car is shut off then re-started.

Its a new red top battery and It ran 100% the other day. It turned over pretty hard to start so I'm not sure whats wrong. I was already 30 min late to my appt so I didnt even bother trying anything to get the light to go away thanks for the info though.


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