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AltecLansing 03-24-2004 03:05 PM

okay, so ur in college. what if ur car is flooded (for some unknown reasons) and that no one can drive u to school? mean while that is also the day for ur final exam? ever thought of ur car being keyed or whatever damage? what IF ur car is flooded in the parking lot?

sorry guys for keep mentioning the flooding issue, i dont mean it but just incase...:o

RunnedAround 03-24-2004 03:12 PM

okay, for starters the money isn't an issue, why cause of this... Last year i left for israel, the year before i left for thailand, and the year before Greece (all 1 month long trips). My mom has 2 maximas (in case on of them brakes apart... don't ask) and a top of the line bmw z3. So gas doesn't matter, insurance doesn't matter, guys don't worry about prices, all i worried about is reliability, and you guys sound confidant, so i leave today for the dealership, hopefully with my mom. Oh ya! Stop ranting about crap that doesn't matter! You guys are fighting over the stupidest crap that has nothing to do with what I asked! No offense, but comon yall sound like little kids fighting in the playground over the dimensions of a swing. It don't matter!!! I'm getting the car, no matter what anybody says, why? Because I like it, and damnit it's my car! But thanks for yalls opinion, or atleast the positive ones...

Josh

Outlaws eXtreme 03-24-2004 05:28 PM

Well of course you're getting the car and you don't care what other people say... your mom is buying it for you :P

RunnedAround 03-24-2004 06:19 PM

well, i got news on the whole car getting deal, I went to the dealership today! And hell ya, I'm getting a blue one, manual sport version, but no sunroof :(. Reason? Cause i Don't fit in the RX 8 with a sunroof, owell. I'm okay with not getting the sunroof, but I did want the sound system... I think I'm going to have to get my own sound system... Any suggestions? I got a 800 RMS kicker amp for a sub (somehow i'll find a sub that fits in the trunk), but is it even worth messing around the speakers to get a better system? Or is it too hard to mess with? Oh ya, and would it mess with my warranty???

Outlaws eXtreme 03-24-2004 07:06 PM

Warranty wont be messed. People have changed their speakers already.

RunnedAround 03-24-2004 07:12 PM

ya, the sound system only gives off 100 watts... I hope thats enough for the speakers I get... I don't want to run wires through the thing at all

LeMans1991 03-24-2004 08:27 PM

Infinity G-35
 
I would agree that a college campus is not the place for an expensive sports car.

That being said, I am 6'1" tall and as much as I liked the G-35 ( aside from the atrocious "plasticky" interior ) I simply could not sit in the drivers seat without hitting my head on the headliner. It's even worse with the Chrysler Crossfire.

The RX8 on the otherhand fits like a "glove" with great pedal position for "heel and toe".

Redlinin 8 03-24-2004 08:54 PM

Thruthfully bro,if you want 10 years of reliability...honda or toyotas a good choice....this is the first year for this car and new things are popping up...id go with the 8..but its ur choice.

RunnedAround 03-24-2004 08:58 PM

oh I'm goin with the eight. My Aim is Josh85927, just click on my profile, and it shows the specifics that I want

downshift 03-24-2004 09:09 PM

You guys worry too much for him. He's a rich college kid; everything is paid for. His buddies probably drive 350z's and S2000's.

Outlaws eXtreme 03-24-2004 09:17 PM

Like I said, of course there's no point telling him it's too much money for a college car... it's not his money. I'm sure most kids at his age would jump at the offer to get a nice new car for getting into college. (Which I think is the error here... as if getting into college requires a reward of a new car. Getting into college should be reward enough)

Hou-TX-RX-8 03-24-2004 09:21 PM

If you are going to get the car in Houston I would Suggest Jeff Haas Mazda. Ask for Mel. It was one of the best car buying experiances I ever had. I actualy got the car below Invoice.

Nat

RunnedAround 03-24-2004 09:24 PM

lol, not those cars, but one has a supercharged Solara(installed himself), a Turbocharged Adui A4 (also installed himself), a Plymouth Duster, a 280 Z, Mazda ProtegeSpeed, meh I guess the usual cars around here (yes i do live in a rich place).

GiN 03-24-2004 09:52 PM

[speaking from experience] I'd use the 28k to buy 2 used cars and a motorcycle. Maybe 1 FC, 1 FD, and an R1 or GSXR or CBR or something. Then after you've had the whole RX-7 experience you can be ready to buy [whatever car has a Renesis] 10 years from now.

Motorcycles get prime pick'ns at parking on college campuses ya kno :-D Plus they're a lot quicker than the 8, and get better gas mileage than most 4 cylinder Hondas. Also, I think they have more sex appeal than the 8... :-D [!!!flame on!!!]

Outlaws eXtreme 03-24-2004 10:15 PM


Originally posted by RunnedAround
lol, not those cars, but one has a supercharged Solara(installed himself), a Turbocharged Adui A4 (also installed himself), a Plymouth Duster, a 280 Z, Mazda ProtegeSpeed, meh I guess the usual cars around here (yes i do live in a rich place).
Ok I take that back, you don't really live in a rich area... :P Solara, Audi A4s, Plymouth... uhmm not very expensive cars here in So California.

RunnedAround 03-24-2004 11:02 PM

well my friends spend alot of time on their cars, there more the engineer type of guys, they enjoy to mess around with their cars and learn about them, then just spend money on them blindely

Speed-ER doc 03-24-2004 11:27 PM

You DEFINITELY should get some sort of two-wheeled transportation at TAMU. Parking is horrendous, but with a motorcycle you park anywhere you want, right by the door.

Gig'em Aggies!

(TAMU class of '88)

hasg 03-25-2004 01:11 PM

problems? I redline my car atleast 20 times a day all day. I have 8000 miles on it now and havn't had 1 single problem. I dont know where you get the idea that the car has more problems than any other car in history.

RunnedAround 03-25-2004 04:12 PM

okay, somebody close this thread, i got the info i needed...

Boozehound 03-25-2004 04:32 PM

Yak. Another aggy.

As for arguing on the internet... It's like competing in the Special Olympics - Even if you win, you're still retarded.

AltecLansing 03-25-2004 04:41 PM

actually depends on where do u come from. i come from Hong Kong, as an example, the RX8 is selling at 50K+, a mini S is at least 30K, a MB C-class is selling at at least 60K+. an S-class is at least 130K...u know, i have a friend who lives in malya. he bought a hyndai for 38K. so it really depends on where do u come from to judge a pice factor. therefore, some people will think a 30K sports car is cheap.

anyway, since he is going to buy it, good luck to him. hope he can enjoy his new ride. :D for me, even though i cant afford a car yet, life goes on :)
(man, im paying 180 bucks per unit in a CC)

Outlaws eXtreme 03-25-2004 06:23 PM

PER unit? What the heck.. isn't it suppose to be 23-25 bucks per here in Calif?

gusmahler 03-25-2004 06:34 PM

RX8 or G35 Sedan
 
I've narrowed my choice down to these two cars. I'm not even considering 2-door cars because I have a toddler daughter that I have to drive around some times. So I've decided to make a list of advantages for both cars. Let's see if you can help.

G35 Pros
* Better every day straight-line performance (I think the RX-8 has slightly faster 0-60 times, but that's only if you drop the clutch at 7000 rpm).
* More "luxurious"
* More trunk space
* More rear seat space
* Better gas mileage

RX8 Pros
* Better looking (subjective)
* If you like revving, this car is it.
* Better handling

So, from an objective standpoint, the only real advantages are looks and handling. And it's not like the G35 is "bad" handling, just slightly worse than the RX8.

But the G35, as good looking as it is, still looks like any of dozens of cars on the street. The RX8 is completely unique looking.

EDIT: The C&D 0-60 times are identical. But the "street start" time for the G35 is 6.3 seconds. The RX-8 is 7.5 seconds.

AltecLansing 03-25-2004 06:52 PM

Outlaws eXtreme: cox i'm an international student :D

BIMMER5&RX8 03-26-2004 03:19 PM

Re: RX8 or G35 Sedan
 
WHy is the G35 more "luxurious"? I had sit in one loaded G35 and it is definitely less "luxurious" than the RX8 GT. IT also has less rear seat space. Are you sure you did not have the two swapped in some of the items?


Originally posted by gusmahler
I've narrowed my choice down to these two cars. I'm not even considering 2-door cars because I have a toddler daughter that I have to drive around some times. So I've decided to make a list of advantages for both cars. Let's see if you can help.

G35 Pros
* Better every day straight-line performance (I think the RX-8 has slightly faster 0-60 times, but that's only if you drop the clutch at 7000 rpm).
* More "luxurious"
* More trunk space
* More rear seat space
* Better gas mileage

RX8 Pros
* Better looking (subjective)
* If you like revving, this car is it.
* Better handling

So, from an objective standpoint, the only real advantages are looks and handling. And it's not like the G35 is "bad" handling, just slightly worse than the RX8.

But the G35, as good looking as it is, still looks like any of dozens of cars on the street. The RX8 is completely unique looking.

EDIT: The C&D 0-60 times are identical. But the "street start" time for the G35 is 6.3 seconds. The RX-8 is 7.5 seconds.


Sue Esponte 03-26-2004 03:30 PM

I could be wrong but I think he may have been referring to the public's perception of the Infiniti as an upmarket "luxury" car manufacturer vs. Mazda (which isn't typically considered a luxury car manufacturer).

And, I still think the G35 is butt-ugly. Aside from being "affordable luxury" and a competent performer, I don't see the aesthetic appeal of the G35 sedan at all...and the coupe is a bad interpretation of the TT.

-Eric

TiRX8 03-26-2004 03:35 PM

Re: RX8 or G35 Sedan
 

Originally posted by gusmahler
I've narrowed my choice down to these two cars. I'm not even considering 2-door cars because I have a toddler daughter that I have to drive around some times. So I've decided to make a list of advantages for both cars. Let's see if you can help.

G35 Pros
* Better every day straight-line performance (I think the RX-8 has slightly faster 0-60 times, but that's only if you drop the clutch at 7000 rpm).
* More "luxurious"
* More trunk space
* More rear seat space
* Better gas mileage

RX8 Pros
* Better looking (subjective)
* If you like revving, this car is it.
* Better handling

So, from an objective standpoint, the only real advantages are looks and handling. And it's not like the G35 is "bad" handling, just slightly worse than the RX8.

But the G35, as good looking as it is, still looks like any of dozens of cars on the street. The RX8 is completely unique looking.

EDIT: The C&D 0-60 times are identical. But the "street start" time for the G35 is 6.3 seconds. The RX-8 is 7.5 seconds.

Save yourself the hassle. You've pretty much convinced yourself. BUY THE G35!!!!!!

Spin9k 03-26-2004 04:02 PM

Re: RX 8 or G35 Coupe
 

Originally posted by RunnedAround
.... but now it seems to have more problems than any car in history (except maybe a Yugo).
Huh? Your definition of 'history' is? OR did I miss smthg the last 9 months in the problems dept?

:eek: :p

gusmahler 03-26-2004 04:30 PM

Re: Re: RX8 or G35 Sedan
 

Originally posted by BIMMER5&RX8
WHy is the G35 more "luxurious"? I had sit in one loaded G35 and it is definitely less "luxurious" than the RX8 GT. IT also has less rear seat space. Are you sure you did not have the two swapped in some of the items?
I drove them months apart, so I may be wrong with respect to rear seat room. That's why I asked here, to be corrected. Luxurious is, of course, subjective.

Believe it or not, I'm still leaning towards the RX8, not the G35. I don't have to pull the trigger for about 2 months, though, so I still have plenty of time to compare them both again.

rx-7~rx-8 03-26-2004 04:56 PM

if you want something that will last longer and has a proven reliability... last 10 years... G35...

if you want a unique really sweet looking car and awesome handling... and unknown reliablility... RX-8

I say RX-8.. come on it stands out on the street... and is so damn fun to drive... cause i drove one and boy is it fun... to drive... man it should be reliable... just takle care of it... you'll be alright dont worry...

BIMMER5&RX8 03-26-2004 05:19 PM

How do you know G35 Coupe is going to last longer than RX8? It has one model year more than RX8 although the sedan version has been around for a couple of years. But that should not lead you to this conclusion.

As far as I know, I don't worry about products from either Mazda or Nissan, especially those models made in Japan. The RX8 is made in Japan.


Originally posted by rx-7~rx-8
if you want something that will last longer and has a proven reliability... last 10 years... G35...

if you want a unique really sweet looking car and awesome handling... and unknown reliablility... RX-8

I say RX-8.. come on it stands out on the street... and is so damn fun to drive... cause i drove one and boy is it fun... to drive... man it should be reliable... just takle care of it... you'll be alright dont worry...


Sue Esponte 03-26-2004 05:32 PM


Originally posted by BIMMER5&RX8
As far as I know, I don't worry about products from either Mazda or Nissan, especially those models made in Japan. The RX8 is made in Japan.
Funny, of the big Japanese automakers, Nissan is one of two that I'd be most concerned with over the long term. Newer models are definitely an improvement over old...but "old" isn't that old.

And, the Camry and Accord (both of which are assembled in the U.S.) have some of the best reliability records on hand for any Japanese car sold in North America.

I honestly have no idea what the basis is for your opinion. :confused:

-Eric

BIMMER5&RX8 03-26-2004 06:17 PM

The previous version of Mazda 626 (now called Mazda 6) was assembled in North America and it only had an average reliability record. I don't even want to talk about Mazda Tribute. So, it has been my perception. When I bought my RX8 I had a chat with the dealership owner while signing the paper work. He told me that his experience of selling cars (his family owns a bunch of dealerships including Lexus, Jaguar, Acura, Infiniti, Cheverolet, Volvo, Mazda, Nissan, etc.) has been that within the same brand cars made in Japan tend to be more reliable. He marveled at the Japanese quality control .

I work for one of the biggest software companies in the world and I have regular contacts with our engineers in Japan. One of the Japan team's jobs is to localize the product in Japanese after a product is ready. They usually would find lots of problems that slip through our QA. For some reason they are much more focus on quality. And they are the only people I know who actually read the product manuals and they read them carefully. :)


Originally posted by Sue Esponte
Funny, of the big Japanese automakers, Nissan is one of two that I'd be most concerned with over the long term. Newer models are definitely an improvement over old...but "old" isn't that old.

And, the Camry and Accord (both of which are assembled in the U.S.) have some of the best reliability records on hand for any Japanese car sold in North America.

I honestly have no idea what the basis is for your opinion. :confused:

-Eric

;)

BIMMER5&RX8 03-26-2004 06:25 PM

Another thing...

I used to own a 1991 Honda Accord. That model year, some cars sold here were made in Japan and some were made in North America. A couple of years ago I put an ad on yahoo to sell it. When a buyer came to look at the car, one of the first things to looked is to check the sticker and made sure it was made in Japan. I was able to sell it to him for a price higher than the prevailing Accord prices.

cwerdna 03-26-2004 11:08 PM


Originally posted by BIMMER5&RX8
As far as I know, I don't worry about products from either Mazda or Nissan, especially those models made in Japan. The RX8 is made in Japan.
So is the G35.

Back to one of the earlier replies. I agree that the G35 sedan is ugly (at least the back is). The G35 coupe looks ok IMHO.

AltecLansing 03-26-2004 11:16 PM

i second that. the G35 looks too heavy and a daddy car. yet the G35c is another story.

btw, my friend owns a Audi A4 1.8T 03' and its having some engine problems already...

RunnedAround 03-27-2004 12:22 AM

lol, funny that you say that your friend has problems on his A4, because my friend who has the A4, has more problems than anybody else with his car!

RunnedAround 03-27-2004 12:24 AM

Oh ya! The reason I want an RX 8??? Because unlike other cars, the RX 8 is a piece of art, a one of a kind, so it should be treated accordingly

cwerdna 03-27-2004 12:26 AM

A4 probs
 
The A4 probs aren't surprising. Audi's reliability is below average and its parent VW is even worse. Every VW and Audi that Consumer Reports had reliability data for had below avg. reliability except the V6 Passat.

RodsterinFL 03-27-2004 12:57 AM

Interestingly it was on this forum right after I bought my car (in July) that I learned of the study done that rated the NA rotary as the 2nd most reliable engine in the world - just after Mercedes Benz diesel.

If you must buy a car and are going to buy either/or I would purchase the RX8. For one thing, you have $26,000 to spend. I do not believe you can buy a new G35C for that and if it is used as someone said, why are they selling it so soon? If they have owned it for one year then you have 3 years of warranty vs. 4 years with the 8. The insurance was lower (for me) on the 8 vs. the G35C. ALso, don't try to get any adult sized friends in the back seat. I am 5'8" and I could not sit upright in the G35C in the back, the rear window was in the crown of my head. One person said the gas mileage was better on here - check the long term report of Car and Driver (I believeor Road and Track) reported 17 mpg city for the G35C. Also, the G wants Premium gas and the RX loves Regular. Many have tried to tell others on here about that who have soot hanging from their pipes but, oh well.


Now, if you don't HAVE to buy a car like that now, I would look for an inexpensive car to get around in while your precious must sit out in a lot exposed to the elements of nature and naughtiness. Vandalizing cars is sadly a pastime with many younger people and it is harder to take with "new stuff" let alone any stuff. I would get a tuned Civic or something at best and save the rest in your car fund.

AltecLansing 03-27-2004 01:10 AM

actually a second hand miata, s2000, 350Z etc also works. :D

cwerdna 03-27-2004 01:19 AM


Originally posted by RodsterinFL
If they have owned it for one year then you have 3 years of warranty vs. 4 years with the 8.
From http://www.infiniti.com/content/owne...ty/0,,,00.html the Infiniti basic warranty is 4 years/60K and 6 years/70K on the powertrain. So, if you drive a LOT, you might not be that bad off w/a G35 even if it's a year old. There's no extra coverage on the powertrain on Mazdas.

m477 03-27-2004 05:24 AM

Seriously. Get a beater now, not a nice new car. Trust me. It will get bumped, scraped, scratched, and dinged to hell after several years of being parked in and around student housing areas. Think of 4-5 years down the line when you're graduating, you'll be getting a job and might want to buy a house/condo or at the very least, need money to get settled in your apartment. All you'll have to show for your $26k is a beat-up car that has is no longer worth anything.

I had a used Neon in college. I wanted a nicer car at the time, but in retrospect it was a good idea. By graduation, the sides of the car had so many dings they looked like cellulite, I got rear-ended, backed into, broken into, and was vandalized twice.

However, if your family has a lot of money and will help you out with your expenses after college too, then hey, go for it....

RodsterinFL 03-27-2004 11:39 AM


actually a second hand miata, s2000, 350Z etc also works
Agreed Altec Lansing, Those are all great choices.

RodsterinFL 03-27-2004 12:00 PM


The Infiniti basic warranty is 4 years/60K and 6 years/70K on the powertrain. So, if you drive a LOT, you might not be that bad off w/a G35 even if it's a year old. There's no extra coverage on the powertrain on Mazdas.
True on the warranty but also note the mileage figures. If the car is driven the avg 12,000 miles a year then at 4 years that's 48K and 6 years is 72K - 5 years 10 mths or less if driven more is more the actual of that powertrain warranty. The warranty is 20K more than the Mazda on powertrain. I agree that it is a warranty but my experience with the "emissions" part of a warranty that was longer than the basic on a car I owned caused me a big problem even though it was a catalytic converter still way within the emisson warranty period. Go figure. The basic warranty is the most important one and fully transferrable but all in all, you make a good point Cwerdna.

This brings up a good point - mileage figures and warranty. I wish they would come up with another factor besides mileage or at least be a little more understanding. We have a 2001 Miata LE that is still under basic warranty and has 16,500 miles. An issue with that model year that is a TSB is that the clutch when cold shutters. We also have been experiencing veering to the right just during acceleration (runs straight during cruise not alignment) and the dealer admitted this week that there was an issue with the clutch but that it needed to be taken car of during or within a 12,000 mile period because the clutch is a "friction" part. Well, whatever the car has 16,500 miles - 4,500 more miles than the so-called cutoff. Used only as a weekend car it just now has what many persons have in one year of driving.

bubble 03-27-2004 01:29 PM

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