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thanks for the replies.
the problem is that I can't sincronize my movements to rev and press the clutch at the same (to select the gear i whant) .

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Originally Posted by rx88.88 (Post 3992233)

thanks for the replies.
the problem is that I can't sincronize my movements to rev and press the clutch at the same (to select the gear i whant) .

practice practice and practice
another good way is to get those driving steering wheels with pedals and shifters for computer games if you too worried about destroying the car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b58dtJQiCkM

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Originally Posted by rx88.88 (Post 3992233)

thanks for the replies.
the problem is that I can't sincronize my movements to rev and press the clutch at the same (to select the gear i whant) .

:rollingla

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Originally Posted by rx88.88 (Post 3992233)

thanks for the replies.
the problem is that I can't sincronize my movements to rev and press the clutch at the same (to select the gear i whant) .

Take it a little at a time, and build up to it. Just like learning any other coordinated activity...do the easy ones slowly til you get the hang of it.

For an easy practice piece...

On a road by yourself: Drive at 3000 rpm in 4th gear. Try a downshift to 3rd, which would put you at 4000 rpm. Feel free to watch the tach as you blip the throttle and make the change. Take your time, feel free to work the throttle slowly and hold the rpm rather than just a quick blip.

Spiral out from there.

Ken

say if i make mistake while practicing will there be any major damage done to the car

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Originally Posted by Arun9 (Post 3993814)

say if i make mistake while practicing will there be any major damage done to the car

Arun,

Just be gentle & smooth while practicing, and try not to lose your temper with the car if you make a mistake... The more aggressively you try to push yourself upon learning, the greater the chance that you'll be punishing the car.

Just remember: Smooth & gentle while gradually and slowly picking up on the skill. It takes time, so just keep your patience. If you keep that mindset, then you won't be punishing your car as much as you're thinking right now.

Good luck. :)

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Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 3992119)

If you're braking, then you're heel and toeing. Unless you're that F1 driver from the '60s (forget his name) who had wooden leg and used a hand throttle on his gearshift for downshifts.

When you get adept at it, the steps become somewhat blurred. The clutch does not have to come all the way up when in neutral - just enough to spin the gears up to speed. The last step, to have the revs match on the final clutch engagement, is very important. Otherwise you'll have a jerk either forward or backward. Not good if you're racing, and embarrassing on the street if you have a passenger.

There is a really good quantitative description of double clutching in Piero Taruffi's book "The Technique of Motor Racing."

Ken

Well, I always heel-toe while driving around town(Made it a habit with my old car, learning the technique, for the practice, now I always do it, unless I'm coasting to what I know is a stop for sure.), I'm just trying to figure out how I'd incorporate double-clutching into that, haha. I doubt I would, I'm just trying to go over how you'd do both together, because I'm imagining that'd be the only time to do that, aside from while accelerating, since you don't normally drive around shifting gears while maintaining speed.

I'm just being interested is all, trying to play through it with my head, but thank you.

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Originally Posted by 40w8 (Post 3992998)

:rollingla

I don't know why this is so funny .
The problem is that I tend to accelerate the car ,but after a week of practicing I've started to downshift better than before.

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Originally Posted by MS Addict (Post 3993927)

...I'm just trying to figure out how I'd incorporate double-clutching into that...

Go to the library and check out Taruffi's book. Or hit Google and watch one of the dozens of videos.

Ken

This thread is getting hilarious, lol

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Originally Posted by rx88.88 (Post 4002639)

I don't know why this is so funny .
The problem is that I tend to accelerate the car ,but after a week of practicing I've started to downshift better than before.

Ok, it sounds like you might get somewhere with this.

You're at the stage where you need to learn to downshift so you can get good acceleration, right?

Since, you said you tend to accelerate, then, you are catching it right for that downshift.

So just practice downshifting with the immediate acceleration and you're there.

Downshifting to brake is very hard on clutch, trans, and just plain not necessary, unless you like to beat your car on the track for last .1 second. ;)