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Old Rotor 03-11-2008 07:53 PM

Refreshed Mazda RX-8 on Sale in Japan
 
Here is the info on it....


http://www.mazda.com/publicity/relea...03/080310.html

kersh4w 03-11-2008 08:48 PM

ehhh

motorups 03-11-2008 09:22 PM

Well I'm still new, just over a thousand miles on my 07 rx8 but it seems, based on the link, they may have made some nice engine changes as well as changes for the automatic (and manual models as well).

JRichter 03-12-2008 09:20 AM


The RX-8 now offers even better driving dynamics. New water and oil pumps, among other changes, improve the rotary engine’s performance and provide a better acceleration feel. Revised gear ratios in the six-speed manual transmission provide more responsive acceleration at lower engine speeds. Through a redesign of the body structure, increased local rigidity and improved aerodynamics provide greater sports car performance.
I don't get the bold part. I understand the revised gearing contributing to better acceleration but would new water and oil pumps make that much of a difference? And was the body structure actually redesigned?

tajabaho1 03-12-2008 09:51 AM

NOoooOoOooOOooo

there goes my resale value T.T

quantum 03-12-2008 09:56 AM

"newly added heated front seats"? I already have those....

Seems like minor little tweaks, but the folding front seat for rear seat access is nice.

Uncivilizedracer 03-12-2008 10:59 AM

just give me the front bumper/headlights and the rims ill take care of the rest

CyberPitz 03-12-2008 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by quantum (Post 2344177)
"newly added heated front seats"? I already have those....

Seems like minor little tweaks, but the folding front seat for rear seat access is nice.

Isn't it just the drivers side seats are the ones that get heated up? Maybe they mean both now.

Cattywampus 03-12-2008 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by CyberPitz (Post 2344280)
Isn't it just the drivers side seats are the ones that get heated up? Maybe they mean both now.

Both of mine are heated. I want the rims and I would be happy. Keep the rest of the car.

CyberPitz 03-12-2008 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by police34 (Post 2344317)
Both of mine are heated. I want the rims and I would be happy. Keep the rest of the car.

Oh, then I really have no clue what they are talking about :lol:

Cattywampus 03-12-2008 12:15 PM

It may be a classic smoke screen. Or the seats get hotter.

Aipex8 03-12-2008 12:50 PM

You can really see the difference between the front bumpers of the standard vs the RS (R3) models from those pics.

quantum 03-12-2008 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by CyberPitz (Post 2344280)
Isn't it just the drivers side seats are the ones that get heated up? Maybe they mean both now.



Both of mine are heated; only the passenger seat has the ejector button. :lol:

CyberPitz 03-12-2008 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by quantum (Post 2344858)
Both of mine are heated; only the passenger seat has the ejector button. :lol:

Pfft, I knew it was a mistake to go with the Sports model.

quantum 03-12-2008 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by CyberPitz (Post 2344876)
Pfft, I knew it was a mistake to go with the Sports model.

Then you probably didn't get the free p0rn that comes with the GT package...

Haze 03-12-2008 03:23 PM

I thought that this was interesting.
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New variable red zone system. The tachometer red zone moves in three stages according to the engine temperature. This prevents over-revving immediately after startup when the engine is cold.

JRichter 03-12-2008 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Haze (Post 2344905)
I thought that this was interesting.
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New variable red zone system. The tachometer red zone moves in three stages according to the engine temperature. This prevents over-revving immediately after startup when the engine is cold.

That sounds pretty cool. I would like to see it in action. Anyone notice in the older 8's when the engine is not warmed up and you hit around 4000 rpms the fuel cuts?

CyberPitz 03-12-2008 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by JRichter (Post 2344945)
That sounds pretty cool. I would like to see it in action. Anyone notice in the older 8's when the engine is not warmed up and you hit around 4000 rpms the fuel cuts?

I'd assume it beeps at you, but that would be nifty...until something goes wrong, and the limiter decides to always be on. Then your car is just like a sexy civic :banghead:

But all in all, I thought it was pretty awesome to add that.

BillK 03-12-2008 06:16 PM

I asked this in another thread, but this one's got me confused:


A five-speed manual transmission version of the RX-8 is due to go on sale in June 2008.
Why?

kersh4w 03-12-2008 11:53 PM

its the lower power version. comes with 197 hp.

Haze 03-13-2008 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by JRichter (Post 2344945)
That sounds pretty cool. I would like to see it in action. Anyone notice in the older 8's when the engine is not warmed up and you hit around 4000 rpms the fuel cuts?

The fuel doesn't cut, at least not on my '04. At 4,200 RPMs, the intake shifts from the primary ports to the secondary ports and the intake valve rotates to do that. I find that when the engine is cold, that valve has a tendancy to stick a little bit. It is possible to rev the engine harder, but it just isn't a good idea.

I also am wondering whether that variable redline is just a variation in the redline or if it varies that fuel cut too. I have to think that it is just the redline because sometimes to get out of trouble you need all the power that the car has no matter if it is hot or cold. I would think that a fuel cut earlier than the standard redline would prove confusing.

I also find it interesting with the bearing issue that Mazmart found in Expo's engine at a 111,000 mile rebuild. His front eccentric shaft bearing was very worn, and they thought that that might be due to over revving before the oil was truly warm or upon cold start.

I also think that it would look pretty cool.

Eight 03-13-2008 03:20 PM

you can go to the japanese site www.rx-8.mazda.co.jp/ and click through pictures...

I'm no mechanic but, It says that its got a electric metering oil pump called E-MOP which squirts to the side and center of the housing, and some twin knocking sensor, and a new larger synchros in the tranny...
Don't know why the english page don't go into details

gonna save up for that 19incher:)

zoom44 03-13-2008 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by CyberPitz (Post 2344397)
Oh, then I really have no clue what they are talking about :lol:

or because they are talking about the japanese market and they werent avaialble in that market before- this is after all the debut in JAPAN

zoom44 03-13-2008 04:46 PM

yes its an actual fuel/timing cut. just as with the previous versions if you try to rev too high when its cold the pcm will stop you. on the new version there are 3 steps and the dash shows you where you are.

the standard power engine option in Japan and elsewhere has always been available with either an auto or a 5 speed. they are sayignt he 5 speed is not available at launch but will be soon

Haze 03-13-2008 11:32 PM

Take your word for it, but I have never hit it in my car, but then I don't try to rev it high when it is cold. I really feel that this is something I shoud have run into before now.


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