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Currin 11-20-2007 12:13 PM

redline. Good or bad to do
 
I have heard a lot of people talk about how you should redline your 8 a lot or daily. I did not know if it was just different for the rotary engine because I have never heard or pushing your engine to the limit as a good thing?

raizen82 11-20-2007 12:18 PM

well, these guys have had years of experience with rotary and i guess the 8 is the exception to redline being bad. it's certainly because it's rotary and it works very differently from how a traditional piston engine works. i'd take their word and i notice myself the car likes high rpm alot.

Uncivilizedracer 11-20-2007 12:28 PM

I do it daily keeps the carbon buildup away , and plus the car like the stay above the 5k mark

mysql101 11-20-2007 12:35 PM

it's not going to harm the engine, but it might hasten damage to your transmission.

my syncros are now shot for 4th gear. When I get my new transmission in, I plan to keep it below 7k for the most part (which is fine because I make almost 300 whp at 7k). The transmission was not designed for this car - it's a modified tranny used in the miata.

Rx8urZ 11-20-2007 12:36 PM

i redline my car ATLEAST 8 times a day, drives great

briann 11-20-2007 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by mysql101 (Post 2148751)
The transmission was not designed for this car - it's a modified tranny used in the miata.

I learned something new! :lol2:

Redlining every once in awhile keeps carbon from building up. Think you just need to redline 2nd gear everyday? Not sure.

But heck what do i knowwww :rolleyes:

Renesis07 11-20-2007 12:47 PM

Exactly what I've heard, its good for the engine but bad for the tranny!!! Thats why I've been through 12 output seals and mazda won't warranty them anymore! Ugh! So either I redline and screw up my tranny, or don't and screw up my motor!! What to do?

mysql101 11-20-2007 12:49 PM

you don't need to redline it to blow out the carbon. 7k is good enough.

and if you turbo it, you can do as much carbon cleaning at 4k as a stock car does at 9 *




*pulling this stat out of my ass based on hp

cjwaggs 11-20-2007 01:02 PM

redlining often, keeps the carbon away... but it does put more stress on the apex seals.. When in doubt redline.

Rootski 11-20-2007 01:09 PM

While it is true that the stress on internal components increases exponentially with the RPM in any engine, rotary engines are not nearly as susceptible as a reciprocating engine. Frequent high RPM use can also keep the engine clear of potentially damaging carbon desposits. So I'd guess it's probably more beneficial to redline a Renesis than not, but keep in mind that momentary "once a day" redlines for a second or two aren't sustained long enough to get rid of anything.

Rootski 11-20-2007 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cjwaggs (Post 2148795)
redlining often, keeps the carbon away... but it does put more stress on the apex seals.. When in doubt redline.

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Uncivilizedracer 11-20-2007 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Renesis07 (Post 2148773)
Exactly what I've heard, its good for the engine but bad for the tranny!!! Thats why I've been through 12 output seals and mazda won't warranty them anymore! Ugh! So either I redline and screw up my tranny, or don't and screw up my motor!! What to do?


Sounds like your stuck in between a rock and a hard place

rglbegl 11-20-2007 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Rootski (Post 2148812)

I love that picture of the apex seals.
Ranks up there with the rabbit/pancake pic

4me2 11-20-2007 01:22 PM

use common sense, all engines need the carbon cleaned out from time to time. The 8 's engine loves high revs. So do the math.

But no need to break the damn thing.

mdw1000 11-20-2007 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by mysql101 (Post 2148751)
it's not going to harm the engine, but it might hasten damage to your transmission.

my syncros are now shot for 4th gear. When I get my new transmission in, I plan to keep it below 7k for the most part (which is fine because I make almost 300 whp at 7k). The transmission was not designed for this car - it's a modified tranny used in the miata.

Never thought I'd get to say this - that's why you should get an AT :lol2: At least the 4AT tranny is supposed to be very durable (knocking vigourously on wood now...)

New Yorker 11-20-2007 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Rootski (Post 2148806)
…but keep in mind that momentary "once a day" redlines for a second or two aren't sustained long enough to get rid of anything.

So, in your opinion, what's the minimum you'd suggest to avoid carbon buildup? Five to 10 seconds @ redline once or twice a day? Twenty or 30 seconds? More than that? And does it have to be at redline? Or is 7 or 8K good enough?

puch96 11-20-2007 01:56 PM

i tend to redline at least once a day.... when not redlining, I usually like driving down the freeway in 4th or 5th gear tops..... around 5k to 6k rpm....plus I like the sound of the Rotary :).......

zerobio 11-20-2007 02:11 PM

I've been redlining in 1st and 2nd a few times a day but almost immediately shifting after the beep. But the suggestion here is to keep it at redline for a number of seconds, right? I haven't been doing that. So that's what I should do?

Spin9k 11-20-2007 02:42 PM

Here's the real deal. I've spent lots and lots of time around (+ or -) 9k rpm over 4 yrs. Hours cumulative time I would imagine. It doesn't hurt the transmission, improper use does. It doesn't hurt the engine, it doesn't hurt the seals...just be warmed up and don't bounce of the fuel cutout. Like other say, some good continuous reving cleans the engine.

My engine/transmission are strong, good compression, no problems and the reason it is is likely because I don't baby it/I don't abuse it either, I just use it like a rotary should be used...in the high rpm ranges whenever you need/want to :) It's one of the main things that make the rotary so much fun :lol:

Shini 11-20-2007 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Rootski (Post 2148812)

Classic!

SayNoToPistons 11-20-2007 03:49 PM

No, it's bad for your engine. It might spin the valves off and break the cams in half.

987HYS 11-20-2007 04:00 PM

A Redline a day keeps the Carbon away

Cheers

dillsrotary 11-20-2007 04:03 PM

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Shini 11-20-2007 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by dillsrotary (Post 2149140)
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+1?

mmats69 11-20-2007 04:11 PM

This is a very interesting thread that I have learned a lot from. I didn't know that the tranny is a modified one used from the miata.


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