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06RX8 12-18-2006 09:53 PM

recall on my 06?????
 
I was driving and noticed my clutch pedal was sqeeking...I was not sure what the noise was as it just started out of nowhere. Now it seems fine after i let the car sit for a while. I called a dealer and asked them if there are any recalls on the 06 and he asked me for my vin number. After checking he said there is a recall on that VIN and i need a ECU flash, cataliytic converter check, spark plug check. I dont understand..the car is running fine so do i need to get this crap done?

PS. Whats with Mazda and all their recalls? I got rid of the MS6 because its a recall machine and now I find out this car is doing the same things. Never had this with my rsx type s

dillsrotary 12-18-2006 09:58 PM

its a rotary engine, better get that stuff checked out. its just minor stuff that keeps you in the clear for the future.

would you rather not have recalls on known problems?

CTrx8 12-18-2006 09:59 PM

start here:

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...ins_index.html

and then try out the search button.

06RX8 12-18-2006 09:59 PM

I was just wondering. Have you had this recall done?

dillsrotary 12-18-2006 10:02 PM

just about everyone hear has had those 3, the ecu is the newest i believe.

tiltmode43 12-18-2006 10:02 PM

Tons of topics on this recall

If your car is running fine then nothing will be changed. I personally have had this recall done.

edit: Actually they will reflash the ecu but thats really not a big deal.

CTrx8 12-18-2006 10:03 PM

again, do some searching. the recall has been discussed too many times to count. plenty have had it done already and have given their comments on how it went.

N10S 12-18-2006 10:20 PM

I am surprised that your new 06 was not updated prior to it being delivered. I got mine several weeks ago and the dealership had done every RX8 in inventory under recall as a matter of course. Any dealer can run your vin in the Mazda system and see if your car has received any updates. Don't let this ruin your day, just be glad your car is getting the recall done off the front and not after miles of use.

06RX8 12-18-2006 10:27 PM

I am just worried. Everytime I have to deal with dealers stuff goes bad. I didnt get the flash done on the MS6 because it messes up the car. I am afraid this will do the same on this car.

swoope 12-18-2006 10:35 PM

steelbluedink???

i would read the owners manual first, then read the stickys.. most of the answers are there..

beers :beer:

N10S 12-18-2006 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
I am just worried. Everytime I have to deal with dealers stuff goes bad. I didnt get the flash done on the MS6 because it messes up the car. I am afraid this will do the same on this car.

Are you absolutely sure yours hasn't already been done? They can tell if your vin is in the range without checking the system, so I would make sure you aren't taking the car back in for work thats already been done. Btw- I can tell you that my car has run great from the time I picked the car up at the dealership with the recall work already done, so I wouldn't sweat that part.

06RX8 12-18-2006 11:01 PM

I am not sure. He asked me to read him my VIN number and I did. And then he said that my car needs to be inspected for the recall and that my VIN shows that it needs to be done?? My car drives perfect and i have no starting problems at all.

Astral 12-18-2006 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
I am not sure. He asked me to read him my VIN number and I did. And then he said that my car needs to be inspected for the recall and that my VIN shows that it needs to be done?? My car drives perfect and i have no starting problems at all.

The dealer may have performed the recall, but not have updated the database. I had that happen to me: I bought the 8 after the first recall came out, and the dealer told me that I had to get it done at the first oil change. Gave me a rental and all. I was pissed. However, turns out they did do the recall already, but never marked it. The tech said "recall already done."

ken-x8 12-18-2006 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
I am not sure. He asked me to read him my VIN number and I did. And then he said that my car needs to be inspected for the recall and that my VIN shows that it needs to be done?? My car drives perfect and i have no starting problems at all.

I brought mine in for that recall with just 3000 miles. Ran fine before and after. They reflashed the ECU and replaced the leading plugs. Gave me a free loaner for the day.

There's a sticky thread here that lists all the service bulletins and recalls. Look this one up...4206f. Read the docs, especially the dealer letters. Play it right and you'll get a free wash and tank of gas. I screwed up and did not let them know that I knew about the "white glove" policy. Got the wash but not the gas.

The main thing with the new flash is that it reprograms the oil injection, which should help engine life.

Ken

Socr8tes 12-19-2006 09:43 AM

A recall does not necessarily mean something is wrong with your particular car... this is preventative. Just take it in and let them do their thing.

nycgps 12-19-2006 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
I was driving and noticed my clutch pedal was sqeeking...I was not sure what the noise was as it just started out of nowhere. Now it seems fine after i let the car sit for a while. I called a dealer and asked them if there are any recalls on the 06 and he asked me for my vin number. After checking he said there is a recall on that VIN and i need a ECU flash, cataliytic converter check, spark plug check. I dont understand..the car is running fine so do i need to get this crap done?

PS. Whats with Mazda and all their recalls? I got rid of the MS6 because its a recall machine and now I find out this car is doing the same things. Never had this with my rsx type s

It does not sound as serious as it is, sometimes even as little as a *singal light might not flash* can result in a recall. It happened to my father's mini van once, big deal ? nope.

Most of the time they issue a recall because they discovered a problem(in labs or real incident), and they just trying to prevent it from happening again(Cuz if they know something and not telling people about it, or someone *found* the problem and die/injured cuz of it, people can sue them for LOTs of money)

most people dont even need any replacements, only one of the few unlucky ones does(engine), Most of us have the new spark plugs and new cats already.

Recall happens all the time, Im curious how old are you ? and do you consider yourself a *motorhead* or just one of the average joe out there ? Reason I ask is because it sounds like you aint young but probably one of the average joes out there. (when it comes to automobiles)

You car would be fine, just let them do it.

swerver 12-19-2006 05:57 PM

hehe, just got my car back from the recall work today...........

..........everything is fine (no re-hab engine for me). But the funny thing is, I get in my car to leave and the sun visor falls in my face. Yep, they broke the infamous sun visor while doing the recall work.........:)

And of course they don't have any in stock. Honestly, why don't Mazda dealerships keep like 6000 sun visors in stock..........??

cjkim 12-19-2006 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by swoope
steelbluedink???

i was thinking the exact same thing :spank:

swoope 12-19-2006 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by cjkim
i was thinking the exact same thing :spank:

yea,

beers :beer:

06RX8 12-19-2006 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps
It does not sound as serious as it is, sometimes even as little as a *singal light might not flash* can result in a recall. It happened to my father's mini van once, big deal ? nope.

Most of the time they issue a recall because they discovered a problem(in labs or real incident), and they just trying to prevent it from happening again(Cuz if they know something and not telling people about it, or someone *found* the problem and die/injured cuz of it, people can sue them for LOTs of money)

most people dont even need any replacements, only one of the few unlucky ones does(engine), Most of us have the new spark plugs and new cats already.

Recall happens all the time, Im curious how old are you ? and do you consider yourself a *motorhead* or just one of the average joe out there ? Reason I ask is because it sounds like you aint young but probably one of the average joes out there. (when it comes to automobiles)

You car would be fine, just let them do it.


I guess you can say I am an average joe and im 24 years old. I have had 2 acuras before these 2 mazdas...a 95 Integra LS SE and a 2003 RSX type S. I never had problems with either of the cars and my integra was dropped, i/h/e pullys short shifter and full suspension. I learned how to drive stick on that car and had a stock clutch till 85 thousand. So my concern is that MAZDA seems to be a shitty car brand. The speed 6 had huge powerloss issues where the turbo would pretty much stop spooling. Now i get the RX8 and this thing has problems starting, sqweeky clutch and a recalll once again. So i am worried more then anything.

take this scenerio...I was driving the 8 and i redlined 2nds gear, then cruised down the road until about 40 mph and then turned into my parking lot and found a spot. I heard you have to rev the car before you turn it off...so i reved it to 4k for like a few seconds, not more then 2 and then let the car return to idle and turned it off. Was i supposed to have it turn over 3 times before it started? Or is that normal for these things. Also a lot of people keep telling me that the Rotoray engine break down all the time...is this true?

swoope 12-19-2006 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
I guess you can say I am an average joe and im 24 years old. I have had 2 acuras before these 2 mazdas...a 95 Integra LS SE and a 2003 RSX type S. I never had problems with either of the cars and my integra was dropped, i/h/e pullys short shifter and full suspension. I learned how to drive stick on that car and had a stock clutch till 85 thousand. So my concern is that MAZDA seems to be a shitty car brand. The speed 6 had huge powerloss issues where the turbo would pretty much stop spooling. Now i get the RX8 and this thing has problems starting, sqweeky clutch and a recalll once again. So i am worried more then anything.

take this scenerio...I was driving the 8 and i redlined 2nds gear, then cruised down the road until about 40 mph and then turned into my parking lot and found a spot. I heard you have to rev the car before you turn it off...so i reved it to 4k for like a few seconds, not more then 2 and then let the car return to idle and turned it off. Was i supposed to have it turn over 3 times before it started? Or is that normal for these things. Also a lot of people keep telling me that the Rotoray engine break down all the time...is this true?

you have been given links to almost all your issues, but you come back with the troll talking points again and again.

if you choose not to read or help yourself, dont expect anyone else to do it for you..

post a pic or something.. read a link..

help use help you!!!!!

beers :beer:

06RX8 12-19-2006 10:08 PM

I have read the links. I am curious. If you dont want to answer then move along and stop TROLLING around on this thread with your useless comments.

swoope 12-19-2006 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
I have read the links. I am curious. If you dont want to answer then move along and stop TROLLING around on this thread with your useless comments.

ok,

i will bite. what has not been provided for you that you need to know?

beers :beer:

swoope 12-19-2006 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
I guess you can say I am an average joe and im 24 years old. I have had 2 acuras before these 2 mazdas...a 95 Integra LS SE and a 2003 RSX type S. I never had problems with either of the cars and my integra was dropped, i/h/e pullys short shifter and full suspension. I learned how to drive stick on that car and had a stock clutch till 85 thousand. So my concern is that MAZDA seems to be a shitty car brand. The speed 6 had huge powerloss issues where the turbo would pretty much stop spooling. Now i get the RX8 and this thing has problems starting, sqweeky clutch and a recalll once again. So i am worried more then anything.

take this scenerio...I was driving the 8 and i redlined 2nds gear, then cruised down the road until about 40 mph and then turned into my parking lot and found a spot. I heard you have to rev the car before you turn it off...so i reved it to 4k for like a few seconds, not more then 2 and then let the car return to idle and turned it off. Was i supposed to have it turn over 3 times before it started? Or is that normal for these things. Also a lot of people keep telling me that the Rotoray engine break down all the time...is this true?

ok i will start here..reving before shut down. the answer to this ? is in the glove box..

then. turned over 3 times what does that mean.. 3 time compared to what..

lots of people believe in being a vegan... so...

who said? your mom. sister?

as i said before help us help you...

as to trolling do your homework. search my name if you can and read my posts tonight..

beers :beer:

EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 12-19-2006 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by swoope
ok,

i will bite. what has not been provided for you that you need to know?

beers :beer:

Guess he doesn't know that Swoope is our unOfficial Troll Moderator...

06RX8 12-19-2006 10:31 PM

Dude i am searching..do you understand that i never had a rotary engine before? I never had a problem of turning off a car and then thnking "will it start"....As i experience new stuff I ask... thats it

ken-x8 12-19-2006 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
..take this scenerio...I was driving the 8 and i redlined 2nds gear, then cruised down the road until about 40 mph and then turned into my parking lot and found a spot. I heard you have to rev the car before you turn it off...so i reved it to 4k for like a few seconds, not more then 2 and then let the car return to idle and turned it off. Was i supposed to have it turn over 3 times before it started? Or is that normal for these things. Also a lot of people keep telling me that the Rotoray engine break down all the time...is this true?

If the car is warm, you don't have to rev it before you turn it off. If it's cold, then I believe the procedure is to rev to 3K for 10 seconds. But best not to turn it off cold. Since the 8 warms so quickly, that's really just an issue for things like moving the car around in your driveway.

Rotaries don't break down all the time. They're actually pretty rugged - three moving parts instead of scores, "hummmm" instead of "boing," etc.

If yours turns over three times before starting, you may have the latest flash. Mine started instantly before the recall, and turns a couple of times before starting after. That's part of the new flash: let it turn a little before injecting fuel.

Sounds like you've been hearing stuff from the wrong people. Before that spoils your enjoyment of the car, try reading some of the sticky threads here about its features/characteristics.

Other than the potential for flooding and the low gas mileage, routine day-to-day driving of the 8 isn't different than any other car. Blasting into a corner at insane speed, listening to the engine rev, enjoying the smoothness, etc., are very different. But that's what we buy them for.

Ken

swoope 12-19-2006 10:32 PM

yea,

when he is done reading around the engine longevity thread i hope he takes the time to read this!!!

from his own thread....

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...ins_index.html

btw, ebf . eta on calander?

beers :beer:

swoope 12-19-2006 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
Dude i am searching..do you understand that i never had a rotary engine before? I never had a problem of turning off a car and then thnking "will it start"....As i experience new stuff I ask... thats it

have you had it flood yet? and i do mean this... i somehow have not had it happen to me. in 61k miles. and this is my first rotory also...

if you take the time to read the owners manual and all the little stuff in the packet that came with your car..

but really all you ?s have been answered in your own thread... they have. if you dont take the time to read them maybe you will stop asking the same ?s...

and why do you buy a new car and start a thread about rx8 vs s2000 vs wrx..

and the ms6 a recall queen.. dont think so.. the rx8 is good at something... :)

beers :beer:

EyeBall Fixer...(o)(x) 12-19-2006 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by swoope
yea,

when he is done reading around the engine longevity thread i hope he takes the time to read this!!!

from his own thread....

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...ins_index.html

btw, ebf . eta on calander?

beers :beer:

What Calendar??? PM'd

Astral 12-20-2006 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
take this scenerio...I was driving the 8 and i redlined 2nds gear, then cruised down the road until about 40 mph and then turned into my parking lot and found a spot. I heard you have to rev the car before you turn it off...

No. REv the car only if it's cold and was running less than about 6 minutes. You don't need to rev when it's warm.

Originally Posted by 06RX8
Was i supposed to have it turn over 3 times before it started? Or is that normal for these things.

That is normal. Turning over 3 times is no problem.

Originally Posted by 06rx8
Also a lot of people keep telling me that the Rotoray engine break down all the time...is this true?

They're full of it. You have a naturally aspirated rotary. Keep up your maintenance and it'll last a long time. The bad perception is from the overheating turbo 3rd gen RX-7s.

NgoRX8 12-20-2006 12:33 AM

a recall is a recall. just get it done when you can but don't wait a year to do it. it takes less than a day... unless the dealer is lazy.

06RX8 12-20-2006 06:02 PM

Ok I got the recall done. When I got my car it came with an extra set of brand new spark plugs and I was always wondring what they were for. I showed them to the service manager and he said they were the ones required for the recall so they used them. I never got a chance to start the car becaues they brought it to me and i drove it home and turned it off, hopefully i wont have starting issues? The way I see it though is I never got the free tank of gas and i gave them spark plugs to use which i could have kept for later on. Car seems to drive the same but who knows until i get on it tomorrow.

Astral 12-20-2006 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
Ok I got the recall done. When I got my car it came with an extra set of brand new spark plugs and I was always wondring what they were for. I showed them to the service manager and he said they were the ones required for the recall so they used them. I never got a chance to start the car becaues they brought it to me and i drove it home and turned it off, hopefully i wont have starting issues? The way I see it though is I never got the free tank of gas and i gave them spark plugs to use which i could have kept for later on. Car seems to drive the same but who knows until i get on it tomorrow.

They were supposed to get you a free tank of gas. They weren't supposed to replace spark plugs, if the car had spark plugs replaced less than 12 months ago or had the final quality inspection (i.e. a new car). I guess it doesn't hurt that they replaced them.

06RX8 12-20-2006 06:19 PM

So do you feel that its fine? They did that 4209 emmissions recall where they put in new plugs and they reprogram the PCM thing. I just hope they didnt mess anyhting up as I have no idea about Rotoray engines other then what you guys tell me.

Astral 12-20-2006 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
So do you feel that its fine? They did that 4209 emmissions recall where they put in new plugs and they reprogram the PCM thing. I just hope they didnt mess anyhting up as I have no idea about Rotoray engines other then what you guys tell me.

I'm sure you'll be fine. It's just a spark plug change and PCM reprogramming.

06RX8 12-20-2006 08:21 PM

Actually, I just started the car to go to best buy and I am so fed up with this whole thing that I punched it to redline a few times.

1. I cant believe it is so slow..seriously wtf it does not move...my old rsx s would eat this car on the road no doubt and that makes me angry.

2. Somthing is fucked up after this PCM reprogram because the car smells like gas/oil and NO POWER between 3k-4k in the RPM range. Also I have started it 2 times now since this PCM/spark plug crap and it has to turn over 3 to 4 times before it starts. BEFORE the "recall" It would start right away. Why the hell does it start like that now?????

3. I redlined it 2 times and between 8-9k there is a HUGE/LOUD rattle sound comming from the engine. Is this normal, because i never redlined the car before.

4. I can hear the engine KNOCKING/pinging when the car is at idle. It never did this before either. ????

06RX8 12-20-2006 09:41 PM

I am so upset that the car doesnt start like it did before the recall. It has to turn over like 3-4 times before it starts. I dont undertand how that can be. Also this whole loss of power between 3-4k ...i even wathed the miles per hour and the car is just slow. It was never like that before this godforsaken recall. How can i even prove this to them now???

ken-x8 12-20-2006 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by 06RX8
...How can i even prove this to them now???

Hang onto your mood, and go back to the dealer and tell them what's wrong.

There are posts here by others who had 4206f go bad. Mine went just fine, so I didn't keep track of them, but if you search you should find them. Knowledge is power.

Ken

4444 12-21-2006 01:42 PM

This is me under a new name at work because i forgot my PW and GMAIL is blocked here.

Anyhow, I took the car in this morning, said it drives like shit ( in the exact words). They brought the mechanic out that worked on the car and we went for a test drive. The car started like crap right infront of him and after the test drive he told me he will put the stock plugs back in. After he put them in, the car started normal and now drives fine. So pretty much what happend was I gave them a perfect car, them put in plugs that came with it when i bought it in a seperate box and did that computer reprogram. After they put in my stock plugs which i guess he had laying around from the day before and now the car runs like it did when I bought it. I am still worried because i dont know if the plugs I got in now( the ones that came with the car) are the recall ones. Also I dont nkow what this PCM thing did to my car. My guess is that somthing will go wrong sooner or later with this engine.

Also is it possible to replace spark plugs in a matter of 10 minutes? I honestly think that he may have forgot to put a plug wire back on and thats why i was getting bad starts and powerloss thru the whole rpm range.

What are your thoughts guys?

ken-x8 12-21-2006 04:44 PM

Ten minutes is more than enough time to change plugs and examine them.

Sounds like it was a bad plug. If he missed putting a plug wire on, he'd have spotted that immediately, and not changed plugs again.

PCM flash will not hurt your car. It does good things to protect your engine against a couple of fringe possibilities. On an '06 it also corrects a data-reporting fault on temperature.

Plugs were not an actual recall item, just a potential victim of the things the recall fixed. As long as your old ones were clean they're fine.

Now go out and find a nice twisty road!

Ken

06RX8 12-21-2006 05:20 PM

Thanks for your help man!!


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