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Jarred82 08-24-2009 02:52 PM

Radar/Laser detectors/diffusers
 
Does anyone here use a K40 product? I searched the threads and didn't reallư find what I was looking for. If I'm going to spend 600+ on a V1 that only detects radar and leaves me open to laser, I'd rather spend more and actually be protected from anything the cops can point at me.

I use common sense and currently have no speeding tickets and I'd like to keep it that way. I just want a little bit more protection, especially for when I'm out of state as I travel to NH frequently.

Looking for some help, thanks in advance.

Razz1 08-26-2009 10:30 AM

Best thing to do is to go take some HPDE courses.

No need to spped when you can track it.

Flashwing 08-26-2009 10:41 AM

I've had a lot of experience with escort products and highly suggest them to anyone looking for a high quality radar detector. It's saved me quite a few times in situations where being caught for speeding could have occurred.

I know some people have strong feelings about using radar detectors. I have a more offensive style of driving as it has proven to be a safer way to drive then always following the limit and risk getting ran into.

A detector is a tool and like any tool when it's not used properly it will probably do more harm than good.

If you are looking for laser protection I'd suggest looking into some type of a laser jammer. Because of the nature of laser just having detection will do nothing for you. It's an instant on and off device. Once you detect it you are already nailed.

A jammer can detect the incoming laser and then respond with a stronger signal that will prevent the gun from getting any reading at all. It's not fool proof as most jammers won't protect within 500 ft. from the gun. It will, however, give you enough time to slow down.

Laser jamming (I think with very few exceptions) is legal in all states because lasers are regulated by the FDA where radar is regulated by the FCC.

Jammers vary in price and usage. Some offer only front protection while at least the escort unit offers both front and rear.

Jarred82 08-26-2009 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Razz1 (Post 3189925)
Best thing to do is to go take some HPDE courses.

No need to spped when you can track it.

I don't know what HPDE is...

The Reverend 08-26-2009 01:42 PM

High Performance Driving Event. You won't feel the urge to speed on the street when you drive the car safely on a track

http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/

Jarred82 08-26-2009 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Flashwing (Post 3189948)
I've had a lot of experience with escort products and highly suggest them to anyone looking for a high quality radar detector. It's saved me quite a few times in situations where being caught for speeding could have occurred.

I know some people have strong feelings about using radar detectors. I have a more offensive style of driving as it has proven to be a safer way to drive then always following the limit and risk getting ran into.

A detector is a tool and like any tool when it's not used properly it will probably do more harm than good.

If you are looking for laser protection I'd suggest looking into some type of a laser jammer. Because of the nature of laser just having detection will do nothing for you. It's an instant on and off device. Once you detect it you are already nailed.

A jammer can detect the incoming laser and then respond with a stronger signal that will prevent the gun from getting any reading at all. It's not fool proof as most jammers won't protect within 500 ft. from the gun. It will, however, give you enough time to slow down.

Laser jamming (I think with very few exceptions) is legal in all states because lasers are regulated by the FDA where radar is regulated by the FCC.

Jammers vary in price and usage. Some offer only front protection while at least the escort unit offers both front and rear.

I appreciate the well thought out response.

Google K40, I found this product on an M5 forum. It offers front and rear protection from radar on all bands and blocks laser. Its really expensive though.

I was looking into V1, bell and escort, but they only block radar. I wasn't sure if they blocked radar detector-detectors either. Do you know?

Again, thank you for your time and well thought out response. I am a very responsible driver, however, with my 8 I feel as if I will be picked out of a crowd due to the type of car it is.

Kevo 08-26-2009 02:16 PM

here are the ones I know of from Escort...

9500ci gps enabled that detects radar and laser as well as jams laser. very expensive and time consuming install.

9500ix gps enabled that detects radar and laser and can be upgraded to jam laser. it is a dashmount unit of average cost...laser jammer costs extra.

Redline that is undetectable to "radar detector" detectors. not sure what redline detects...prolly radar and laser both just like the 9500ix without the gps.

DubbsLuvs8s 08-26-2009 02:17 PM

I don't think NY, LI in particular uses radar at all...I believe they're strictly laser.

peterlemonjello 08-26-2009 04:25 PM

First, let me say I love and own several Escort radar detectors. The Escort 9500 series IMHO is the best radar detector on the market. However, Escort's laser jamming products don't get very good reviews. If you're interested in laser jammers then do a Google search on laser jammer reviews. Most of the reputable sites come to similar conclusions on what the best jammers are. Unfortunately, there's not a single solution to cover both radar detection and laser jamming.

Flashwing 08-26-2009 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Jarred82 (Post 3190299)
I appreciate the well thought out response.

Google K40, I found this product on an M5 forum. It offers front and rear protection from radar on all bands and blocks laser. Its really expensive though.

I was looking into V1, bell and escort, but they only block radar. I wasn't sure if they blocked radar detector-detectors either. Do you know?

Again, thank you for your time and well thought out response. I am a very responsible driver, however, with my 8 I feel as if I will be picked out of a crowd due to the type of car it is.

You're very welcome! I believe the escort units are designed to defeat some of the detection equipment out there but I imagine the only police departments using that sort of thing would be in places where radar detectors are illegal. That makes the most sense to me.

I've often been told the V1 is an "investment" and not so much a purchase.

I suffer from the same fears as you do in that the RX8 stands out from other vehicles and since mine is also clearly modified it makes it an even bigger target.


Originally Posted by peterlemonjello (Post 3190713)
First, let me say I love and own several Escort radar detectors. The Escort 9500 series IMHO is the best radar detector on the market. However, Escort's laser jamming products don't get very good reviews. If you're interested in laser jammers then do a Google search on laser jammer reviews. Most of the reputable sites come to similar conclusions on what the best jammers are. Unfortunately, there's not a single solution to cover both radar detection and laser jamming.

That's correct in that laser jamming is going to be a totally seperate device and will require some installation on the part of the owner. The nice thing is the majority of the devices are designed to be rather stealthy and are not something that can be detected per say. Even if the police officer suspects that his laser was jammed there will be little to nothing they can do about it.

Jarred82 08-26-2009 08:48 PM

Here is a site that tests/reviews laser jammers: http://www.laserjammertests.com/

I read through it and they seem to be pretty tough

peterlemonjello 08-27-2009 08:22 AM

Here's a few others

http://www.guysoflidar.com/
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/

DRFTGTO 08-27-2009 08:45 AM

V1 valentine is the best detector for the money also used by team polizea(they break speed records like point to point on public roads and participate in many rallies)

Too bad i wont be in the states for a while i used to sell these for 300-350, and no they were not solen ones. Always fully software upgraded too (euro mode pop 2s)
also laser jammers are not worth the money in my mind, if you are familier with an area you know when and where to speed, hence why i was valentine less most of the time, didnt really make a big difference to me, more like an extra safety blanket

Jarred82 09-04-2009 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by peterlemonjello (Post 3191936)

Guysoflidar was great as was the forum. The only problem was I got banned from the forum on my first post. Apparently if you mention K40 or any other product line they don't sell they just give you the boot.

czar 09-04-2009 02:02 PM

i like my laser interceptor, it works i guess, havent driven the car much recently though

dougsears 10-11-2009 05:20 PM

Laser Jammers own
 
I have a passport 8500 X50 radar detector. A Blinder m25 J16 laser jammer with cheetah wireless install.

This combination is awesome. I have a mile notice on radar detection, and the confidence of never getting a laser ticket. It kind of enjoy jamming the gun, it is more fun than the notice the radar detector gives. My jammer does not cover the rear, but it comes with a standard one year (extendible) laser speeding ticket refund. I use my jammer at least once a week driving through Lowell. It works great, and I recommend it to anyone.

It is very easy to install. I installed it on the lower bumper, and kept the control box in the battery compartment. It took about a half hour.

Rote8 10-11-2009 06:45 PM

HERF Gun?

rodjonathan 10-11-2009 07:33 PM

^^ im thinking about sth like that too my only question is what if a cop realizes you have a jammer? what CAN he do?

DarkLord7854 10-11-2009 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Jarred82 (Post 3190299)
I was looking into V1, bell and escort, but they only block radar. I wasn't sure if they blocked radar detector-detectors either. Do you know?


Last I checked, no products blocks radar, only detects. You can't block radar, unless you have special materials specifically designed to absorb or deflect the radar waves (correct me if I'm wrong).

I personally use a Passport 9500ix and it's been great, it does detect laser (the V1 can detect laser too I think) but it does not jam it.

Jammers are expensive.

Spoolin8 10-11-2009 11:40 PM

there is one radar jammer (that works) and it costs 1,500. If caught using it, its a federal crime and jail time along with big fines. Now onto laser jamming as i have used them on my past vehicle. They work great when you are hit at ranges 500ft plus. Normally it gives the cop an error on his gun and what i would do, is when i was hit i would slow down to the PSL and turn off the jammer so he could then get a reading. Well one time i didnt turn it off and fully jammed it (even within 100ft). Now there is no set ticket or law against it but they can get you for a "preventing an officer from doing his job" which is like a class B or something and some serious stuff. I was nice though and able to talk my way out of it. Over all it helped me a few times but i dont speed nearly as much as i used to so i no longer use a laser jammer and even a radar detector is an item i sometimes run.

DarkLord7854 10-11-2009 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by Spoolin8 (Post 3273380)
Now there is no set ticket or law against it but they can get you for a "preventing an officer from doing his job" which is like a class B or something and some serious stuff. I was nice though and able to talk my way out of it. Over all it helped me a few times but i dont speed nearly as much as i used to so i no longer use a laser jammer and even a radar detector is an item i sometimes run.

Didn't know about that, thanks for sharing. That's good to know.

Spoolin8 10-11-2009 11:59 PM

ive been a member on the radar detector forum for almost 5 years now so when it comes to that stuff i carry a wealth of information lol and have used just about every detector possible and i have my favorites :). It interested me more though when i was slightly younger and sped much more often... Now im about to be 21 and im much more mature ;)

DarkLord7854 10-12-2009 12:13 AM

Watcha use now? I've been considering the ZR4 for my 9500ix

Cf05 10-12-2009 12:51 AM

I use a Valentine 1 and its incredible... also you can pick one up for about 400 plus shipping at valentine1.com Anyways on to the important things, It has great detection range for all bands including laser(if you get lucky and catch a reflected beam) and I absolutley love the directional arrows and threat counter. I highly recommend it, everytime I've been driving with friends it usually picks up the signal before any of their detectors or at the very least at the same moment.

RedRocket8 10-12-2009 01:35 AM

I used to use passport, and then i went to Cobra. I heard Valentine one is the best, but not really looking to spend 600 dollars on a radar unit. Lately i just pulled it out of my car, it seems with it off and out of my car i'm more aware of the road/cops so i don't need any type of detector, just my opinion of course.


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