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bren5279 04-10-2011 10:43 PM

Oil level guage???
 
Anyone know if there is a guage for oil level?
Is there any kind of oil level sensor in the car that say dashcommand could show?

Beodude 04-10-2011 10:44 PM

There is an oil low light, but it only comes on after your level is too low.

bren5279 04-10-2011 11:59 PM

well yeah I know that... I mean like is there anything for above that...? maybe any way of making one that could go in place of the oil dipstick.

jasonrxeight 04-11-2011 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by bren5279 (Post 3941418)
well yeah I know that... I mean like is there anything for above that...? maybe any way of making one that could go in place of the oil dipstick.

how hard it is to use a dipstick?

laythor 04-11-2011 12:22 AM

anything is possible to do. a simple sender attacked to a tube coming off the oil pan raised to the height of full oil would be easiest.
Not sure why you want to do that, but it could be done.

I would suggest a sohn adapter and separate clear plastic container for the oil as a better alternate solution. You could even find a washer bottle with a fluid level sensor in it.

Jedi54 04-11-2011 12:29 AM

:banghead:

that's what the dipstick is for. why would one POSSIBLY need a gauge to tell you when oil is low?!

laythor 04-11-2011 12:38 AM

easy tiger, nothing wrong with wanting to do something different

Beodude 04-11-2011 12:51 AM

Sohn is the best option there is, bar none.

Novoken 04-11-2011 07:08 AM

Why the flaming? If you guys dont have info for the OP then dont post at all. Is true what some noobs are saying about this forum. 99% of 20 page thread is flaming the OP. Takes hours to go trough pages and pages of crap to find a descent answer.

OP are you talking about something you can monitor from inside the car?

terch1 04-11-2011 07:52 AM

I also see what the OP is trying to accomplish here. He wants to monitor the oil level from in the car....right? Just check the dipstick when you fill up. You might as well make good use of the time. The Sohn is not the answer here. I have the Sohn and still have to pop my hood every fill up to check the level. You can run the Sohn reservoir empty too.

wcs 04-11-2011 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Novoken (Post 3941526)
Why the flaming? If you guys dont have info for the OP then dont post at all. Is true what some noobs are saying about this forum. 99% of 20 page thread is flaming the OP. Takes hours to go trough pages and pages of crap to find a descent answer.

OP are you talking about something you can monitor from inside the car?

So what is it you have added to this thread?
You're in violation of your own flame to the flamers, haha!

Ummm I'm with the Sohn solution for a couple of reasons.

1) I think the oil in the pan maybe too foamy to use a level sensor and may slosh around to much to get an accurate reading.

2) Installing the Sohn adapter and some sort of oil container solution with a oil level sensor may well be easier than modifying the oil pan.

However installing a Sohn adapter doesn't really solve the problem of knowing what the oil level is in the engine (oil pan) if the OP truly is interested in the that level.
Yes, yes, yes I know you've removed the major consumer of the oil in the engine, but technically you haven't solved the problem of how to monitor the oil level remotely (in the car). Which I believe was the OP's question.

Reflecting on this .... I don't think I've ever seen a car that can tell you the oil level while it's operating. All the ones I've owned/driven you have to check the oil level with the dip stick.

jasonrxeight 04-11-2011 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by wcs (Post 3941591)
So what is it you have added to this thread?
You're in violation of your own flame to the flamers, haha!

Ummm I'm with the Sohn solution for a couple of reasons.

1) I think the oil in the pan maybe too foamy to use a level sensor and may slosh around to much to get an accurate reading.

2) Installing the Sohn adapter and some sort of oil container solution with a oil level sensor may well be easier than modifying the oil pan.

However installing a Sohn adapter doesn't really solve the problem of knowing what the oil level is in the engine (oil pan) if the OP truly is interested in the that level.
Yes, yes, yes I know you've removed the major consumer of the oil in the engine, but technically you haven't solved the problem of how to monitor the oil level remotely (in the car). Which I believe was the OP's question.

Reflecting on this .... I don't think I've ever seen a car that can tell you the oil level while it's operating. All the ones I've owned/driven you have to check the oil level with the dip stick.

because there is a reason why. when engines turning the oil level would go down. all car manufactures suggest reading oil level at least 10 min after shutting off the engine. why would someone want a gauge that can only read correctly 10 min after the car is off? wouldnt it be just as hassle as using the dipstick?

DarkBrew 04-11-2011 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by wcs (Post 3941591)
...
Reflecting on this .... I don't think I've ever seen a car that can tell you the oil level while it's operating. All the ones I've owned/driven you have to check the oil level with the dip stick.

BMW tried it...

They were so confident in the system that they removed the dip stick...

Let's say it didn't work out all that well...

Now to measure oil level in those cars they have to drain the oil, measure it and re-install it...

On another track...
I'm with Beodude and WCS on using the Sohn to eliminate 90% or more of the consumption from the oil pan.
A level gauge will be quite feasible in the remote oil tank used with the Sohn.

9krpmrx8 04-11-2011 11:52 AM

My bosses Porsche has a built in gauge, not sure how it works but it only works with the car off and then you have to wait a while. It's lame and a waste of time, with a dipstick I could have figured out how low it was in two seconds. Oh and the first oil change is at 10,000 miles and it used two quarts in 5,000 miles and they said that was normal :eek:

laythor 04-11-2011 12:03 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3FkQelaL-A


How to Check the oil in a Porsche 911
For Porsche models 3.0 SC, 3.2 Carrera, 964, Turbo I, Turbo II, 993.



So often its done wrong, and not just by the owners. You must check whilst running and when truly hot.



Often garages who are unfamiliar with the correct procedure get it wrong. And too much oil can be bad news. Its easiest to check after a drive.



Inside the car you have an oil level indicator (right beside the fuel level). This shows the level in the oil tank.



In the engine compartment you have a dipstick. It too shows the oil level in the tank. You can check the dipstick to make sure the guage is telling the truth. The procedure is exactly the same.



1. Your Porsche must be at running temperature - i.e. it must have been running for 15 minutes or more (more in cold weather).



2. With the engine hot you must let it idle for 60 seconds (this allows the oil to settle and a true reading).



3. The gauge should read between a third and two thirds.



4. The dipstick will reflect the level on the gauge.



5. Add oil as required. There is less than two litres between the 'full and empty' marks. Add 1/2 litre at a time.



That's it. Job done.



Check the oil during or after a drive - most 911 will use some.



Note:



When the engine is cold (first thing in the morning) the gauge will read empty.



When the engine is turned off it will read empty.



When you drive the reading is inaccurate - it may swing around but means nothing.



Don't panic and overfill.

Sounds like it's using a float, and from the posts i read about it sounds like it's pretty much universally ignored/disliked by the users in favor of the dipstick.

When I do get around to installing the shohn adapter (that i purchased a year ago, shut up) I wouldn't mind a way of checking the level of the tank inside the car.

jasonrxeight 04-11-2011 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 3941800)
My bosses Porsche has a built in gauge, not sure how it works but it only works with the car off and then you have to wait a while. It's lame and a waste of time, with a dipstick I could have figured out how low it was in two seconds. Oh and the first oil change is at 10,000 miles and it used two quarts in 5,000 miles and they said that was normal :eek:

well those BMW inline 6's have a 7 quart sump tho.

Beodude 04-11-2011 12:55 PM

I bet if you went dry sump, you would probably be able to have a level indicator. But the work to do that would probably be a lot.

RotaryP7 04-11-2011 12:56 PM

I wish you could. I'd buy it. I even searched the forums some time ago.

lilring 04-11-2011 01:33 PM

Just THINK WITH YOUR DIPSTICK JIMMY!

bren5279 04-11-2011 01:46 PM

So I think what I was kind of thinking at this point is it would be a guage (probably with that sohn idea) that would show the oil level ONLY RIGHT BEFORE THE CAR IS STARTED because it wouldnt be accurate at all for during the engine running for obvious reasons. I was just wondering if there was any kind of simple say tube and resivoir with sensor that went in where the dipstick goes or in conjunction with it.

Im an engineer so I think of things like that..... because we are all lazy and I know there are at least 20 people who would buy something simple like that for say $25 or so....
my main reasoning is that I usually drive when its dark out and can never see the dam opening..... guess Ill just wire in some engine illumination led's so I can see it...

Beodude 04-11-2011 03:20 PM

It does kind of suck checking oil on the early models. I hate where they put the dipstick. Thankfully with the Sohn, and a clear reservoir, it's really easy to see. I only need to check mine every couple tanks.

Novoken 04-11-2011 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by wcs (Post 3941591)

So what is it you have added to this thread?

"OP are you talking about something you can monitor from inside the car?"

A question to get a better understanding from the OP thread.... lol

jasonrxeight 04-11-2011 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by bren5279 (Post 3941920)
So I think what I was kind of thinking at this point is it would be a guage (probably with that sohn idea) that would show the oil level ONLY RIGHT BEFORE THE CAR IS STARTED because it wouldnt be accurate at all for during the engine running for obvious reasons. I was just wondering if there was any kind of simple say tube and resivoir with sensor that went in where the dipstick goes or in conjunction with it.

Im an engineer so I think of things like that..... because we are all lazy and I know there are at least 20 people who would buy something simple like that for say $25 or so....
my main reasoning is that I usually drive when its dark out and can never see the dam opening..... guess Ill just wire in some engine illumination led's so I can see it...

or just check it when its bright outside?:suspect:
or use a flash light?

9krpmrx8 04-11-2011 04:56 PM

Or get the Lebren dipstick light. It's the most functional mod I have done :lol:

laythor 04-11-2011 07:44 PM

florescent motor oil.. discuss.


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