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ric3583 05-31-2010 05:23 PM

Need more Torque
 
Hello,

I have a 2004 RX8 and I am looking to increase the Torque in it. I just got the K&N Typhoon kit installed, but that seems to have decreased my Torque. Some people have mentioned to get Headers, but what brand would be good?
How about getting the exhaust system done?
Any suggestions?

dshiznit1489 05-31-2010 05:27 PM

A search of the word "torque" would be the most optimal way to find an answer to your inquiry.

tubingchamp 05-31-2010 05:30 PM

Get a turbo.

Otherwise the most your torque will go up would be 5FT/lb

deadphoenix52 05-31-2010 05:40 PM

v8 swap

ric3583 05-31-2010 05:50 PM

My 2004 RX8 is also auto so the lack of 1st to 2nd is not an option.

tubingchamp 05-31-2010 06:04 PM

Trade for MT if you want more torque.

The only way you will reach the same power levels is with FI.

Kaiser bun 05-31-2010 06:14 PM

Seems like a troll to me >.>, but i could be wrong.

MICHGoBlue 06-01-2010 08:59 AM

Forged Pistons.

Cf05 06-01-2010 09:05 AM

^+1 that will do it

adamwzl 06-01-2010 09:06 AM

Gold rotors

CTrx8 06-01-2010 09:10 AM

diamond studded cam shaft

Huey52 06-01-2010 10:19 AM

All of us non-FI equipped '8 drivers need more torque, but somehow we've learned to live with it. ;)

supergoat 06-01-2010 10:43 AM

You have the wrong car if you want torque unfortunately. But this car really doesn't need a lot of torque thanks to the gearing and it's willingness to rev.

Sure there are times I wish it had more torque but then I take it past 4000rpm and the power kicks in completely killing that desire for more torque.

jasonrxeight 06-01-2010 12:35 PM

want more torque? downshift.

CrazyJek 06-01-2010 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by jasonrxeight (Post 3581480)
want more torque? downshift.

That would be horsepower...

RotaryResurrection 06-02-2010 12:05 AM

Torque is mostly inherent to the engine design. No rotary produces much torque because the shaft has very little "stroke" to the journals in comparison to a piston engine. This is also part of what makes it so willing to rev to high rpm, though.

In general, any modification from stock will generally reduce low rpm torque but increase high rpm hp output. This would include intake and header, in my experience.

laythor 06-02-2010 12:10 AM

why are so many people looking for torque? I can understand the need for track but in a daily driver what's the purpose? If you want the "shoved into the back of your seat feeling" eat more.

WTBRotary! 06-02-2010 12:12 AM

^^^ lol well a good solid 200ft-lbs of torque and 300hp would be perfect... gotta have that 10:1 weight to hp ratio...

laythor 06-02-2010 12:13 AM

my question stands... perfect for what?

WTBRotary! 06-02-2010 12:16 AM

Well, so a Honda Civic doesnt beat me off the line, and so my car can compete with other cars around the same price range, even possibly higher. Hell cheap HP is out there where even though their handling SUCKS, the HP makes up for it and they will beat the 8 around a track, Even though we will have a more fun in the 8, id still like to see the 8 compete against cars in its price range...

laythor 06-02-2010 12:20 AM

you said it yourself. it comes down to fun, for most of us. I personally think that the 8 is the most fun car to drive i have ever owned. The sound, the handling, the lines, just the whole experience. When I'm driving around in my 8 the though of "more torque" never enters my mind, it's just pure fun from start to finish.

I think the whole idea of more torque has become a the grass is greener on the other side thing. Could the car handle more torque, hell yeah. Does it need it to make it more fun, maybe. Can you you have a NA RX8 your whole life and be happy, why not?

RotaryResurrection 06-02-2010 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by laythor (Post 3582291)
why are so many people looking for torque? I can understand the need for track but in a daily driver what's the purpose? If you want the "shoved into the back of your seat feeling" eat more.

Torque is what moves your car from a stop at low speeds, it is what you use during 90% of your normal daily driving. More of it is never a bad thing. The car could certainly benefit from more of it, but "need" may be too strong a word.

laythor 06-02-2010 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection (Post 3582303)
, but "need" may be too strong a word.

thanks RR, that's what i was trying to say

WTBRotary! 06-02-2010 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by laythor (Post 3582302)
you said it yourself. it comes down to fun, for most of us. I personally think that the 8 is the most fun car to drive i have ever owned. The sound, the handling, the lines, just the whole experience. When I'm driving around in my 8 the though of "more torque" never enters my mind, it's just pure fun from start to finish.

I think the whole idea of more torque has become a the grass is greener on the other side thing. Could the car handle more torque, hell yeah. Does it need it to make it more fun, maybe. Can you you have a NA RX8 your whole life and be happy, why not?

I agree with you, im not gonna say I dont :smoker: , I just think we need a little more hp and torque, thats all

Huey52 06-02-2010 09:05 AM

Heartily concur. "Torque does the work but horsepower gets the credit."

The '8 is a super handling machine, but the 16X's purported 20% more torque sure would be nice (want, not need)!


Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection (Post 3582303)
Torque is what moves your car from a stop at low speeds, it is what you use during 90% of your normal daily driving. More of it is never a bad thing. The car could certainly benefit from more of it, but "need" may be too strong a word.


yiksing 06-02-2010 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by ric3583 (Post 3580503)
Hello,

I have a 2004 RX8 and I am looking to increase the Torque in it. I just got the K&N Typhoon kit installed, but that seems to have decreased my Torque. Some people have mentioned to get Headers, but what brand would be good?
How about getting the exhaust system done?
Any suggestions?

Swap the Final Gear

Huey52 06-02-2010 11:19 AM

A scant 90 minutes after my last post in this thread I easily maintained pace with a much more powerful 'stang on a spirited (well, a tad more than that) entry ramp thanks to the incredible cornering ability of the RX-8 (augmented by sticky 265x35 tires). So again, we want more torque, but don't really need it. As always it mostly comes down to driver skills well suited to and experienced with the vehicle at hand.

RotaryResurrection 06-02-2010 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 3582721)
A scant 90 minutes after my last post in this thread I easily maintained pace with a much more powerful 'stang on a spirited (well, a tad more than that) entry ramp thanks to the incredible cornering ability of the RX-8 (augmented by sticky 265x35 tires). So again, we want more torque, but don't really need it. As always it mostly comes down to driver skills well suited to and experienced with the vehicle at hand.

There may be a similar post on a mustang forum starting that an rx8 rode his ass on an on ramp, but he easily walked away once on the highway without even down shifting.....and actually got better mpg on the way home too.

I'm no domestic or ford fan, but lets be realistic.

Huey52 06-02-2010 12:21 PM

^ ROTFLMAO!!! :) Actually, I was leading the parade. Of course I was again a mild mannered reporter by the time I actually got on the highway (long twisty ramp) where I was fully realistic in that he could of course easily walk away from me in a straight line without even breathing hard.

The saliant point is to enjoy the strengths of our vehicles and let it go at that. "A man's got to know his (and his vehicle's) limitations." -Dirty Harry


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