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nycgps 05-19-2011 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by 1.3_LittersOfFurry (Post 3981781)
I know I'll be trying when I hit it . :smoker:

*cough*me too*cough* :SHOCKED::eek::naughty:

pasngr46n2 05-19-2011 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Vic-Viper (Post 3981295)
My 2004 RX-8 GT just went over 30,000 miles. I thought it was time to request an engine replacement since the warranty expires soon. The mechanic worked with me and got approval for a replacement. It should be here on Friday or Monday :D


Lucky SOB, I'm still waiting to hear about mine. :fingersx: I got less than 45k on mine. Second owner. She wouldn't start, figured it was flooded but my folks couldn't get it started either using the de-flooding procedures. Got it sent to the dealership and they said it failed the compression test. They said in order to get it warrantied they need to make sure the emissions system passes all readiness tests. BUT, since the battery died it erased all that data so they need to run and drive the vehicle to recreate the "readiness" information. They said this can take several days and it's driving me MAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!:SHOCKED::Eyecrazy: :wallbash::pfanndina Oh they haven't asked for maintenance records ro anything yet. I don't have them anyway. Didn't know they extended the warranty till i joined rx8club.

Vic-Viper 05-19-2011 01:24 PM

I didn't need to provide records either. I have them on hand just in case though.

Nadrealista 05-19-2011 02:41 PM

not quite sure how would emissions system readiness tests be relevant to getting a new engine, especially if it failed compression test..

what wold happen if you had a catless midpipe on the car? that in no way, shape or form could cause an engine failure?

pasngr46n2 05-19-2011 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by Nadrealista (Post 3982119)
not quite sure how would emissions system readiness tests be relevant to getting a new engine, especially if it failed compression test..

what wold happen if you had a catless midpipe on the car? that in no way, shape or form could cause an engine failure?


That's what they descibed as the deciding factor from what i got after reading there reply. This is what they said.

"The engine failed the compression test in all but one chamber so the engine will need to be replaced. Mazda does have some extended warranty coverage on the RX8 rotory engine but only under very specific cirumstances. To fall under that warranty we need to perform some other tests to the vehicle and make sure the emissions system passes all readiness tests. The problem is when the vehicle's original battery went dead it erased all that data so we need to run and drive the vehicle to recreate the "readiness" information. We are in the process of doing that, but it takes time. If all emission systems pass we might be able to warranty a large portion of the engine replacement.


Bladecutter 05-19-2011 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by pasngr46n2 (Post 3982185)
The problem is when the vehicle's original battery went dead it erased all that data so we need to run and drive the vehicle to recreate the "readiness" information. We are in the process of doing that, but it takes time. If all emission systems pass we might be able to warranty a large portion of the engine replacement.


I have a problem with these two items in their response to you.

It takes, what, half an hour to run through all the items needed for the Drive Cycle?

And it should have said the WHOLE portion of the engine replacement.

Clarify those two bits with your dealer.
You can even send them the instructions on doing the drive cycle, since they don't seem to know what it involves.

BC.

nycgps 05-19-2011 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by pasngr46n2 (Post 3982185)
That's what they descibed as the deciding factor from what i got after reading there reply. This is what they said.

"The engine failed the compression test in all but one chamber so the engine will need to be replaced. Mazda does have some extended warranty coverage on the RX8 rotory engine but only under very specific cirumstances. To fall under that warranty we need to perform some other tests to the vehicle and make sure the emissions system passes all readiness tests. The problem is when the vehicle's original battery went dead it erased all that data so we need to run and drive the vehicle to recreate the "readiness" information. We are in the process of doing that, but it takes time. If all emission systems pass we might be able to warranty a large portion of the engine replacement.


Unless Mazda somehow "changed" the Engine replacement requirements ... otherwise that's really utter bs.

not to mention, most Emission equipment are, well, for emission, it means ZERO to the Engine itself, you can take all Emission stuff off the car and it will run just fine (CEL will go on, but who cares)

I like how they can come up with some new bs on engine warranty every other day, things just keep getting better and better.

pasngr46n2 05-19-2011 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3982245)
Unless Mazda somehow "changed" the Engine replacement requirements ... otherwise that's really utter bs.

not to mention, most Emission equipment are, well, for emission, it means ZERO to the Engine itself, you can take all Emission stuff off the car and it will run just fine (CEL will go on, but who cares)

I like how they can come up with some new bs on engine warranty every other day, things just keep getting better and better.


Great...:icon_no2:

Vic-Viper 05-20-2011 04:57 PM

Got pics! I have these in hi res and in hi res 3D (works with 3D displays and Nintendo 3D) if anyone wants them

Something seems to be missing? Where is my gerbil on a wheel?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6767980/RX8/DSCF2427.jpg


Old, New, Car
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6767980/RX8/DSCF2435.jpg

Old
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6767980/RX8/DSCF2421.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6767980/RX8/DSCF2426.jpg

New
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6767980/RX8/DSCF2422.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6767980/RX8/DSCF2423.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6767980/RX8/DSCF2424.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6767980/RX8/DSCF2430.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6767980/RX8/DSCF2425.jpg

Vic-Viper 05-20-2011 04:58 PM

Also, they called to tell me Mazda is going to replace the plugs for me free of charge. I replaced them 500 miles ago :p . All labor is covered so I had them replace the wires and filters while they're at it.

pasngr46n2 05-20-2011 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Vic-Viper (Post 3983185)
Also, they called to tell me Mazda is going to replace the plugs for me free of charge. I replaced them 500 miles ago :p . All labor is covered so I had them replace the wires and filters while they're at it.


That's pretty awsome. I'm hoping I'm as fortunate. It's been two days and i haven't gotten any word on a decision yet. which leads to more of this of course. :wallbash: What about a rental. Did they hook you up or offer it?

Vic-Viper 05-20-2011 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by pasngr46n2 (Post 3983239)
That's pretty awsome. I'm hoping I'm as fortunate. It's been two days and i haven't gotten any word on a decision yet. which leads to more of this of course. :wallbash: What about a rental. Did they hook you up or offer it?

They offered a ride, but I have a 2nd car so I declined. Not sure if they would have provided a full rental.

Vic-Viper 05-23-2011 12:02 PM

Just to be clear. Mazda is doing / has done the following under the warranty (and not out of my pocket)

Compression Test
Check Spark Plugs
Check Fluid Levels
Replace Engine
Replace Sparks (Even though mine where only 500 miles old)
Replace Fluids

Not covered
Coil replacement
Air Filters
Spark plug wire replacement

Since the labor was covered by Mazda, no labor costs where applied to the coils, filters, and wires.

I didn't bring any maintenance history when I asked them to look at my car. I just set an appointment, asked them to check the engine since the warranty expires soon, and went from there. They did all the tests under the warranty and notified me of everything they could replace while the engine was out. It took a few extra days to get the coils due to the earthquake in Japan.

pasngr46n2 05-23-2011 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Vic-Viper (Post 3985010)
Just to be clear. Mazda is doing / has done the following under the warranty (and not out of my pocket)

Thanx Boss, dealership got back to me with the good news. They approved my replacement as well. I'm effin' relieved. :D:

Maries8 05-23-2011 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Vic-Viper (Post 3985010)
Just to be clear. Mazda is doing / has done the following under the warranty (and not out of my pocket)

Compression Test
Check Spark Plugs
Check Fluid Levels
Replace Engine
Replace Sparks (Even though mine where only 500 miles old)
Replace Fluids

Very nice! I do love Mazda, they've always been good to me too.

I'm surprised (and delighted to see) they covered the compression test, but I guess that makes sense in a way since it turned out you did need a new engine, so it's all kinda part of the warranty repair in a way.

cougarrx8 05-23-2011 02:48 PM

what dealership location did you go to??

7to8 05-24-2011 11:00 AM

4000 miles and new engine
 
I just joined the new engine club. I got my 2004 RX-8 on 13 JUly 2003 and had 2 months left on the 8 year warranty. It was getting hard to start,low on power and finally just failed to start.


Had it towed in and the analysis was like all the above replacements. All I paid for was new coils and plug wires. Just got it back yesterday and it sure runs great. It took the dealer 2 weeks to get er done.

I dodged a big bill by 2 months

nycgps 05-24-2011 12:48 PM

nice pics :D

Beodude 05-24-2011 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by monchie (Post 3981530)
Anyway, scheduled and preventive maintenance is the key for longer engine life.

While I would agree with you, changing oil and other fluids can only do so much for an engine. The standard schedule for plug and coil changes seems way extended for what should be the schedule for the Renesis.

Afterburner 05-24-2011 09:06 PM

Just to attest to Mazda's good service, my sister's then fiance bought her a brand new 2006 Mazda 3 and she essentially ignored the oil for the first 10000 miles of the engine's life. Started hearing a clicking noise and took it to a shop (not mazda) where they told her there was no oil in her engine. They put oil in but when she took it to Mazda and they said her engine was destroyed they still replaced it despite knowing that she didn't put the oil in and was completely at fault for her negligence. I just wanted to slap her for being a moron.

Bladecutter 05-25-2011 11:01 AM

While it was great of Mazda to replace your sister's engine after she completely ignored it for 10k miles, they shouldn't have.

In fact, there are way too many people who deserve to have their engine's replaced under warranty, yet don't get taken care of, but then your sister gets a new engine that she clearly doesn't deserve.

Life isn't always fair.

BC.

MariesRX8 05-25-2011 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Bladecutter (Post 3986981)
While it was great of Mazda to replace your sister's engine after she completely ignored it for 10k miles, they shouldn't have.

True, but Mazda seems to make a point of trying to create loyal customers. Just think, they made enough of an impression that it's been posted to a popular forum, people are reading how forgiving they are, telling other people about it... the overall benefits may outweigh the costs of that one unfortunate case.

Vic-Viper 05-25-2011 12:20 PM

Got my car back and its running f*cking great :D

starsky1231 10-03-2011 06:05 PM

Does anyone have a chart or know what the compression levels should be on the rotors? I keep looking without success to find this standard. Thanks.

1.3_LittersOfFurry 10-03-2011 06:32 PM

Here ya go

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...6&d=1266716801


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