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REXTurboS 07-20-2019 03:28 PM

Made a visit to Pettit Racing
 
I happened to be driving into South Florida for a cousin’s wedding and I realized Pettit Racing’s shop is right off the highway so I decided to make a visit. I had spoken to Cam, the owner, a few times over the past few weeks as I was obtaining advice on my recently acquired 2005 RX-8.

If anyone saw my recent posts I bought my RX-8 primarily as a track car which can still be driven on the street occasionally. I’ve been trying to figure out the optimal cooling and oiling for my car.
Cam gave some great advice. First off, he advised I use 1.5oz/gallon of his Protek-R oil in the gas tank ALONG WITH using that oil in my Sohn metering pump. He said he doesn’t rely on the metering pump giving enough lubrication, especially for track purposes. He also recommended I drop my coolant to 20-30% and use water wetter to help keep the car cooler on the track. He also sold me the secondary coolant clear reservoir tank so my system becomes “closed” to lock out any potential air bubbles. (I already have his aluminum over-flow tank installed.). He also sold me a 16psi radiator cap to help to increase the system’s boiling point. (I currently have a 13psi.)

Before I left home I completely flushed my system twice with distilled water and filled it with Mazda’s FL-22 fluid. I guess when I return I’ll drain some (maybe 0.7 gallons) and then add enough distilled water (and then water wetter or purple ice) to get the coolant percent to 30%. I live in GA so still want a little freeze protection since the car may be driven when it’s in the 30’s outside.
I’m really hoping all these changes help bring my track peak water temps down some. (I already have a BHR/Griffin radiator and Davies Craig electric water pump.)

Cam’s a great guy and I really enjoyed speaking with him. If my car eventually needs engine services it will definitely be seeing his shop.

I’ll give an update once I make all the changes.
Later!

sinkas 07-21-2019 07:29 PM

Did he say why their website is dead?

Ricky SE3P 07-21-2019 07:56 PM

I would advise against putting any additives into your cooling system if you are running any percent of coolant at all. Those additives are suited for individuals running 100% water and sludge/buildup can result from the products coming in contact with coolant.


I lived in South Florida for years and dealt with plenty of hot summers. You are overthinking the coolant stuff. Stick with straight FL22, it will do just fine. Get a better, high quality radiator and ensure that you have it properly sealed along the edges as well as that the fans are working properly.

Additionally, new belts installed and replace your thermostat with a new one.

REXTurboS 07-21-2019 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by Xero Ryuu (Post 4893985)
I would advise against putting any additives into your cooling system if you are running any percent of coolant at all. Those additives are suited for individuals running 100% water and sludge/buildup can result from the products coming in contact with coolant.


I lived in South Florida for years and dealt with plenty of hot summers. You are overthinking the coolant stuff. Stick with straight FL22, it will do just fine. Get a better, high quality radiator and ensure that you have it properly sealed along the edges as well as that the fans are working properly.

Additionally, new belts installed and replace your thermostat with a new one.


Thanks for the advice.
I have been reading about the issues with sludge by using the water wetter products. Perhaps I will hold off.

REXTurboS 07-21-2019 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by sinkas (Post 4893983)
Did he say why their website is dead?


He did briefly mention that the guys running his website did a terrible job and he was redoing it.

olddragger 07-22-2019 06:09 AM

If you are having overheating problems then install a secondary radiator. It works an it is inexpensive. For the street also modify at what temp the fans activate .

TeamRX8 07-22-2019 06:16 AM

All RX8s have a closed loop coolant system. While it could be run without a pressure cap with Evans water-less coolant they still say to go ahead and use the OE cap. With the aluminum surge tank you could probably get away with a 21-23 psig racing cap for a bit more boiling resistance using water-based coolant.

In time you won’t guzzle the koolade so enthusiastically ... :)

REXTurboS 07-22-2019 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4894002)
All RX8s have a closed loop coolant system. While it could be run without a pressure cap with Evans water-less coolant they still say to go ahead and use the OE cap. With the aluminum surge tank you could probably get away with a 21-23 psig racing cap for a bit more boiling resistance using water-based coolant.

In time you won’t guzzle the koolade so enthusiastically ... :)


Are you saying the Pettit Racing secondary reservoir tank was a waste??

sinkas 07-30-2019 03:10 AM

BTW where are you going to mount it,
I have the kit,but have never fitted it
but AFAIK you need to mount the secondary thing where the OEM washer bottle goes?

REXTurboS 07-30-2019 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by sinkas (Post 4894776)
BTW where are you going to mount it,
I have the kit,but have never fitted it
but AFAIK you need to mount the secondary thing where the OEM washer bottle goes?


That's a good question and I wanting to see where other people mounted their secondary reservoir. When I was at Pettit I saw a stock RX-8 where it was mounted directly in front of the washer tank. I believe that's the intended location.
However, I have the Sohn metering pump in that location now and don't know where else I can mount the tank. Anyone else have any input or recommendations?
It needs a good solid location.

Thanks.

Brettus 07-30-2019 06:32 PM

1.5oz/gallon premix PLUS omp oil is a shit ton of oil ! The omp actually supplies enough oil for track duty but is light in the cruising ranges.... and most people use 100:1 (which is less than 1.5/gal) premix when there is NO omp.
Sounds WAY over the top to me !

sinkas 07-30-2019 06:39 PM

I cant find a single pic of one fitted, il see if the dewd I bought mine off is still alive and can find any pics of it installed

sinkas 07-30-2019 07:07 PM

the guy i bought mine off,
said he has a couple of pics on his Instagram which is @zacheryalandi

REXTurboS 07-30-2019 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4894873)
1.5oz/gallon premix PLUS omp oil is a shit ton of oil ! The omp actually supplies enough oil for track duty but is light in the cruising ranges.... and most people use 100:1 (which is less than 1.5/gal) premix when there is NO omp.
Sounds WAY over the top to me !


Do you mind explaining how the OMP supplies enough oil for track duty, but is light when cruising?

Does it supply more oil in the higher RPM ranges?

Thanks.

Brettus 07-30-2019 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by REXTurboS (Post 4894899)
Do you mind explaining how the OMP supplies enough oil for track duty, but is light when cruising?

Does it supply more oil in the higher RPM ranges?

Thanks.

It uses a ton of oil on track .... over a litre per hour . If you work it out by comparison, premixing at 100:1, the oil consumed is about half of that. The omp supplies oil based on rpm vs load. Having had contact with multiple race cars I'm confident that under race conditions ,with a correctly functioning omp, there is ample oil.
At low load and rpm however, the consumption is minute . Mazda did this to meet emissions and it is in those ranges where it is beneficial to add oil. This can be done by reflashing your ecu.

sinkas 07-30-2019 09:12 PM

he did a whole thread on it a year or 2 ago,


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