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colnago1331 02-10-2010 10:13 AM

If it were me, and I were coming from the RX8, I'd look at a Mini Cooper S Clubman. It comes in automatic. It's a blast to drive (though less so in an automatic). It theoretically has four doors. :D: It's a blast to drive. Given your requirements, I think the S Clubman is definitely something you should look at.

http://www.carphotos.org/wp-content/...er_clubman.jpg

https://www.edmunds.com/media/review...lubman.500.jpg

alz0rz 02-10-2010 10:15 AM

Evo X.

MICHGoBlue 02-10-2010 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by colnago1331 (Post 3424870)
It comes in automatic. It's a blast to drive (though less so in an automatic).

How so?

When I test drove a regular Mini Cooper S, the manual gearbox wasn't all that great, and the clutch pedal had almost no feel of engagement point.

Obviously, I've never driven the auto-equipped Cooper S, so obviously I don't know which transmission is the best for the car.

But not every car has a superior manual transmission over their auto counterparts.

Of course there are the people that has the need for stick for every vehicles they drive.

I don't "drive" my 6 speed MT in the 8, I "enjoy" it.

Even magazine editors sometimes prefer auto transmission over the manual on some cars because it is superior.

Toly 02-10-2010 11:24 AM

Forgot to add... With two kids I need something midsize, like 5-series or A6 type. And obviously, four doors.

9krpmrx8 02-10-2010 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by colnago1331 (Post 3424870)
If it were me, and I were coming from the RX8, I'd look at a Mini Cooper S Clubman. It comes in automatic. It's a blast to drive (though less so in an automatic). It theoretically has four doors. :D: It's a blast to drive. Given your requirements, I think the S Clubman is definitely something you should look at.

http://www.carphotos.org/wp-content/...er_clubman.jpg

http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews...lubman.500.jpg



Wow, that is really gay.

colnago1331 02-10-2010 12:33 PM

Ever driven one?

brandini 02-10-2010 02:34 PM

Trade ya for an 07 Mazda 6i auto

prighello 02-10-2010 02:45 PM

The Lancer Ralliart is $27K brand new, only comes in AT w/ paddle shifters and a detuned Evo X drivetrain. I've heard its a low 14 sec 1/4 mi. and handles well. It's suspension is similar to the Lancer GTS so its not super stiff but still sporty.

9krpmrx8 02-10-2010 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by colnago1331 (Post 3425123)
Ever driven one?

Yes, on an autox course actually and it was great. But an automatic wagon version is just lame IMO.

:)

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9...achmentsr5.jpg

PaPaBear 02-10-2010 03:48 PM

Drive the new Mazda 6 GT. Super nice sedan.

JantzenRX-8 02-10-2010 04:09 PM

Is this your car or your wifes car? Sounds like its going to be your car so if your wife is going to drive it she better learn how to drive a manual. Sorry dude, buying an auto for this reason violates man law on so many levels.

Toly 02-10-2010 04:18 PM

Actually it's going to be wife's car. I could keep the 8 as well, but I would barely get to drive it. OTOH, if I were to drive it, I want it to be fun. I've been thinking about A6 but yet not so sure about it.

Razz1 02-10-2010 04:37 PM

Whats wrong with her car?

Replace her car.

Edit: Stay away from Toyota
My friends wife had the car accerate automatically about two years ago and totaled the car. The insurance company laughed at her. saying driving error.

zoom44 02-10-2010 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Toly (Post 3424979)
Forgot to add... With two kids I need something midsize, like 5-series or A6 type. And obviously, four doors.

why? I have 2 kids(under 2 and 5) and me the wife and kids do the grocery shopping in the 8.

but you shoudl seriously go drive the Mazda 6 gt. or get the bmw

zoom44 02-10-2010 04:51 PM

the mini clubman has LESS room than the 8.

9291150 02-10-2010 05:38 PM

Soul + auto + 4dr...I'd say only the rx8 IMO. Fast + auto + 4dr...many of those have been suggested.

If price were no option; maybe a Panamera or a Quattroporte. That's it for soul - a M5 is an amazing car for sure, but more of an appliance than a car that speaks to you - though a sub-zero appliance. A 300C SRT8 comes close, all american muscle and attitude, but still not quite.

Soul in a machine is hard for most people to define, but those that get it, do.

colnago1331 02-10-2010 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 3425366)
Yes, on an autox course actually and it was great. But an automatic wagon version is just lame IMO.

Well really, the automatic wagon version of anything is lame. :D:

The manual Clubman S is a lot of fun. Not as much fun as the regular S, but pretty close.

911SC 02-10-2010 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by colnago1331 (Post 3425824)
Well really, the automatic wagon version of anything is lame. :D:

The manual Clubman S is a lot of fun. Not as much fun as the regular S, but pretty close.

Really? Automatic wagon versions of anything are lame? Audi S4 Avant.

XDEEDUBBX 02-10-2010 10:17 PM

get a 335i. I picked one up in exchange for the wifey's FX35. A used one would be ideal but make sure you get an extended warranty. These cars can be made extremely fast, you'll be at a level RX8's can only dream about. Invest only 2-3k in mods and you can keep up with GTR's (almost!) at the 1/4 drag strip. Don't believe me? check out dragtimes

http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

Trekk 02-10-2010 10:17 PM

Dodge Charger
Anything with a V8 in it is fun to drive as an Auto. Just take it to a tunner and get the shifts firmed up, and lower the TQ management level.

Symbioticgenius 02-10-2010 10:31 PM

Keep the 8. Get her an Altima.

tza0001 02-10-2010 11:30 PM

And why don't you just help your wife to learn driving with a stick drive and keep the 8, the money, and the fun.

ARE-EX-8 02-10-2010 11:30 PM

new nissan maxima MMMMMMMMM prbly more than ur budget though

colnago1331 02-10-2010 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by 911SC (Post 3426143)
Really? Automatic wagon versions of anything are lame? Audi S4 Avant.

Compared to a manual S4 Avant or a manual (or auto) S4 sedan - yes.

Of course not all automatic wagons are lame. Notice the joking smiley at the end? The S4 Avant and Magnum Hemi are two nice wagons in automatic, as is the V70R. I'd still rather have a manual though.

To the OP: can you explain why it is you have to get rid of the 8? I've got two kids and the 8 works great for us. :dunno:

Toly 02-11-2010 09:16 AM

I could keep the 8, but we would need to get another car. The wife isn't interested in learning to drive a stick, and the 8 has no room if you want to take kids out with bicycles, skiing gear or what not. So, a second car is an option, but the budget would be limited to 20K tops, besides the expense of insurance & maintenance on two cars. Alternatively, if I sell Rx8 for around 10K, I could put this money towards a better family car. By "better" I mean high-performance, good-handling vehicle. I believe there's a lot of great new or used cars there that 30K would buy, but I haven't experienced any beyond a quick test drive.


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