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complex 12-16-2008 11:07 AM

i really hate posting about this
 
my car has been at the shop for a while to get some work done on it and on the day i was going to go pick it up i was told over the phone that they flooded the car..i asked them how many times? they replied "atleast 3" .they went on to say they have it running now but its shaking a little bit while driving around and that it should clear up by itself after driving it a bit.they said they would change the plugs if it doesnt clear up... what should i do when i go to pick it up later on today?! not pay them? make them change the plugs? get them to make a note on the receipt about the plugs before i pay them for the work they did on the car? i have NEVER flooded this car in the 5 years ive been driving it :rant:

9krpmrx8 12-16-2008 11:12 AM

I would make them to drive around with you and if teh car is not running right then have them replace the plugs. If you don't them get it in writing. A persons word does not mean shit anymore. How can you flood a car three times? You sure they weren't dogging on it?

swiftnet 12-16-2008 11:18 AM

I agree, take a test drive with the service mgr. If the car is not running properly when you pick it up, then the plugs need to be replaced ***before*** you leave. I have flooded my car three times. Never because it was not warmed up. I flooded after long highway drives. I now rev to 4k and turn it off with the rotors spinning. Never had a 'flooding' issue since.

dozer 12-16-2008 11:22 AM

yeah WTF! it their fault, and they have to pay the consequences

dmc27 12-16-2008 11:24 AM

At the very least make sure there is some documentation about what happened. So if you have a problem they can't give you a blank stare and say they have no idea what you're talking about.


OT - sort of - seems like a perfectly legitimate issue to post about, so I'm not sure why you "really hate posting about this" :scratchhe

Good luck with them!

RIWWP 12-16-2008 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by swiftnet (Post 2771524)
I agree, take a test drive with the service mgr. If the car is not running properly when you pick it up, then the plugs need to be replaced ***before*** you leave. I have flooded my car three times. Never because it was not warmed up. I flooded after long highway drives. I now rev to 4k and turn it off with the rotors spinning. Never had a 'flooding' issue since.

Interesting information / tactic. I haven't flooded since I got my 8, but I have noticed it takes a bit longer to start after I have been on long highway drives, such as restarting at the pump during a refill. Maybe 1-2 seconds of cranking extra.

I will keep the tactic of shut-off during higher rpms in mind, see if it changes the behavior.

And to the OP, yeah, get everything in writing. Not just what they will do for you, but get it in writing that they flooded 3 times, and that it was shaking. They can fight you without it in writing, and while you still might win, it is easier to get it in writing up front. It is one reason I tape flood warning notes to the inside of my windshield a few inches above eye level of the driver and exterior driver's A pillar the few times I have dropped my car off for more than an hour or so.

laythor 12-16-2008 11:28 AM

I'd make them change the plugs while I watched. Then go for a test drive.

alnielsen 12-16-2008 11:35 AM

Have them do a compression check. It may not be a flood condition. Just a won't start. Twice I have had an engine replace due to problems when it had warmed up.

complex 12-16-2008 11:38 AM

this wasnt at a mazda dealership. my warranty period is over anyway and i dont want to pay a premium to get anything done on it. no doubt i will be doing the test drive with them and get it in writing before i leave. i just hate having to deal with this but i suppose i should be used to it by now with a car like this. the reason why i said i really hate posting about this is because theres so many posts about flooded rx8's as it is and i didnt want to be in this growing list. where can i get a good extended warranty on this thing?

zoom44 12-16-2008 11:44 AM

here's an idea-instead of paying someone x dollars each month for a warranty put that same amount in the bank each month

complex 12-16-2008 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 2771577)
here's an idea-instead of paying someone x dollars each month for a warranty put that same amount in the bank each month

replace bank with credit union and ill take that into consideration.

04RX8man 12-16-2008 12:10 PM

yeah ride with them and have them change plugs....if it's a good place u should not have any problems!!!

Marklar 12-16-2008 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by complex (Post 2771500)
they went on to say they have it running now but its shaking a little bit while driving around and that it should clear up by itself after driving it a bit.they said they would change the plugs if it doesnt clear up

Fuck that. They flooded it (three times?!), so they should replace the plugs. Don't let them give you this "it'll fix itself after you leave our shop" horseshit.

dmc27 12-16-2008 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by complex (Post 2771565)
this wasnt at a mazda dealership. my warranty period is over anyway and i dont want to pay a premium to get anything done on it. no doubt i will be doing the test drive with them and get it in writing before i leave. i just hate having to deal with this but i suppose i should be used to it by now with a car like this. the reason why i said i really hate posting about this is because theres so many posts about flooded rx8's as it is and i didnt want to be in this growing list. where can i get a good extended warranty on this thing?

ahh. now I understand. There's a big difference between a "duh, car won't start after I shut it off cold" and this thread, though. ;)

anywho . . .

Just in case . . . you do know Mazda extended the engine warranty to 100k, right?

Also - when was the last time you changed the plugs? If it's been more than 15k just have them replace them anyway.

Socr8tes 12-16-2008 01:55 PM

Just something to consider: flooding will likely shorten cat life significantly.

Never L8 12-16-2008 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by swiftnet (Post 2771524)
I agree, take a test drive with the service mgr. If the car is not running properly when you pick it up, then the plugs need to be replaced ***before*** you leave. I have flooded my car three times. Never because it was not warmed up. I flooded after long highway drives. I now rev to 4k and turn it off with the rotors spinning. Never had a 'flooding' issue since.

I do this, too. It works like a charm!

Great advice, too. I would go this route. Whatever you do, don't leave it at their word or leave at all before getting some sort of resolve. The second you accept your car, they will act like your conversation never occurred.

j67345 12-16-2008 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Socr8tes (Post 2771792)
Just something to consider: flooding will likely shorten cat life significantly.

I was just going to say the same thing...

04RX8man 12-16-2008 06:45 PM

yeah if they flooded it 3 times it's prob time to replace the cat i would make them check that also!!!!! Evindentally they knew that they were prone to flooding if they KNEW that's what they did so they should def reimberse u for something

complex 12-16-2008 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by dmc27 (Post 2771701)
Just in case . . . you do know Mazda extended the engine warranty to 100k, right?

Also - when was the last time you changed the plugs? If it's been more than 15k just have them replace them anyway.

yea the papers i have here say rotary engine core has been extended to 8 yrs / 100,000 miles. what exactly is the core components?



i went out there and took a look and while the car drove ok it was shaking uncontrolably so i left it and told them to take care of it before i pick it up. they will likely clean out the plugs and not replace them unless i push for it. how often should they be replaced anyway? i was also told that they didnt flood the engine 3 times, they say they turned it off while it was still cold atleast 3 times and flooded it once which makes more sense.

robrecht 12-16-2008 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by complex (Post 2772362)
yea the papers i have here say rotary engine core has been extended to 8 yrs / 100,000 miles. what exactly is the core components?



i went out there and took a look and while the car drove ok it was shaking uncontrolably so i left it and told them to take care of it before i pick it up. they will likely clean out the plugs and not replace them unless i push for it. how often should they be replaced anyway? i was also told that they didnt flood the engine 3 times, they say they turned it off while it was still cold atleast 3 times and flooded it once which makes more sense.

Insist they change the plugs and make sure they put good plugs in, not crappy ones. Ask for a receipt verifying the plugs they used. Did you already get the recall done with the upgraded plugs? I think plugs are changed every 37,500 miles.

complex 12-16-2008 07:45 PM

theres been so many recalls done on this car i dont even remember. when was the recall issued?

robrecht 12-16-2008 08:04 PM

Recall 4206F, August 2006; just call Mazda (1-800-222-5500) with your VIN and make sure all your recalls have been done and when this one was done.

simplyphp 12-16-2008 09:19 PM

Then dont post.

complex 12-16-2008 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by robrecht (Post 2772413)
Recall 4206F, August 2006; just call Mazda (1-800-222-5500) with your VIN and make sure all your recalls have been done and when this one was done.

my records say i got it done in feb 2007 oh well.



Originally Posted by simplyphp (Post 2772578)
Then dont post.


shouldnt you be posting in the I HATE MY RX8!!!!! thread right about now?

simplyphp 12-16-2008 10:15 PM

Lmfao :) You're good.


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