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Alucard 07-12-2007 01:37 AM


Sorry man but having a cat back with a midpipe would make it REALLY loud, not to mention you are NEVER going to win the "I don't think he heard it" argument if the cop shows up. The court takes into account credibility & 99.99% of the time will side with the cop. If they are not moving violations just pay the fine & be done with it. You go to court & you will surely lose.
Couldnt have said it better...... Plus you have to take into account that most police cars are equippted with cameras....FYI

#1Stunna 07-12-2007 10:39 AM

Peter you truely are my hero. I'm a cop here in Houston, and unless he has a machine that reads decibles (or whatever its called) that reads how loud the music was, you can always fight it. Here in Texas we cops don't care about loud ricers (rx8 NOT a ricer!!) or loud music, I couldn't really tell you what to do. All I can say is when you go to court, fight it. Your court day will be rescheduled and if that cop doesn't show up, the judge will throw out the ticket. Especially if its your first offense. And in the future, roll your damn windows up, you prob were listening to Prince really loud and deserved the ticket!!!!!! Or was it that stupid Hey Baby song???!!!

eHart 07-12-2007 10:43 AM

just go to court, if the cop shows up, you have no hope, if he's not there, fight it and you have a decent shot of beating it

bottoms up 07-12-2007 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by peterisurhero (Post 1965234)
hey guys,
today, on my way home from school i was stopped by a cop and was given a ticket for two reasons.
1. my exhaust being too loud
2. my music being too loud

i tried to talk the cop to not giving me the ticket, but he was a fucking ass hole and still gave it to me. I tried to tell him that i wasn't dirupting the peace but he was just a bitch.

can anybody give me any advice on how i could refute these tickets? I told him i was going to take him to court:). i hate cops that irrational about shit like this.

Honestly if you had that attitude when being pulled over I would have given you a ticket as well. I get pulled alot I have found that the best thing to do is understand they are doing thier JOB. If your nice to them they will more than likely see that and try to help ya out a lil bit. At least that is what I have found. The second your an asshole to a police officer not only will you prob. get a ticket but you in my opinion f'n deserve it just for the attitude. And Im not saying I am always nice sometimes I get pissed for being pulled but after I cool down think about it yea I deserved it!

Keef 07-12-2007 11:09 AM

I hate the police, I'm always aware of what pigs are around me... When I see one I think of all the evil inside of me and just stare them down... When you get pulled over you just pwn em by acting... Begin acting and within 5 minutes you'll be able too see how gullible/dumb the officer your dealing with actually is. Most of the time an officer is a person who just wants more power (meaning they didn't have enough in the beginning). They could either be short or just not contain enough power within themselves too be content with themselves.

P.S. - This post contains a lot of generalizing

Ben98gs 07-12-2007 11:09 AM

Just pay it and be done with it. It should not be a "points" ticket, but might want to make sure.

Just be glad you do not live down in Australia... You should hear some of the shit they have to put up with. (They can do things like ticketing you if your car is leaking oil, etc)

Ben98gs 07-12-2007 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Keef (Post 1966972)
I hate the police, I'm always aware of what pigs are around me... When I see one I think of all the evil inside of me and just stare them down... When you get pulled over you just pwn em by acting... Begin acting and within 5 minutes you'll be able too see how gullible/dumb the officer your dealing with actually is.


Wow... glad you feel that way about your public servants. I hope the next time you need an officer they take their time because you sure do no deserve/warrant their attention when you are in trouble/need their help :icon_no2:

Keef 07-12-2007 11:32 AM

an effective public servant is one that stop's murderer's, rapists, and drug addicts from committing wrong actions... That officer must really be cleaning up those streets by telling someone too lower the volume of there sound system! What an efficient use of our tax money!

Trekk 07-12-2007 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 1965541)
you can't see the cat from under the hood... :rofl:

I said "car" not hood. and yes they can do that. If you are to low, well then that's another ticket in most places.

NgoRX8 07-12-2007 11:54 AM

haha... jedi failed

early 30's crisis 07-12-2007 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Keef (Post 1967009)
an effective public servant is one that stop's murderer's, rapists, and drug addicts from committing wrong actions... That officer must really be cleaning up those streets by telling someone too lower the volume of there sound system! What an efficient use of our tax money!

They have to do something while waiting for murderers, rapists and drug addicts to commit their act. Would you rather they congregate somewhere and polish off piles of donuts, or stay out on the streets where they are needed? Perhaps in a day he might write noise tickets, speeding tickets, find people with no insurance, no licenses and outstanding warrants... or maybe someday, find someone driving your car after they stole it.

Please remember they are catching all those murderers etc to keep us all safe. Is a crappy job, highly underpaid and very risky.. and sure, they have assholes. I think comments like yours might have a little something to do with it...?

Vasichko 07-12-2007 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by peterisurhero (Post 1965333)
i wasn't on school grounds. it was about a block away from school.

hahah i would get a lawyer, but not sure if its worth the $$$. haha

if he did not have any sound level reading to back up his assumption of how loud my car is, i can argue that right?

I dont know what you could do, in Texas they probably wouldnt have don that with all the loud monster cammed Z06s we have running around.

I dont know.

I have fought a couple of tickets in the past and won. Then agian it is a benefit of working for a Fortune 500 company. For $5 a month I get legal representation from our legal department regardless of what it is. :hahano:

Trekk 07-12-2007 12:05 PM

Keef is an idiot.

I have alot of cops in my family and they spend a large amount of time domestic disputes and other crap, were people just want a moderator. They even spend a huge part of the day going to houses that the alarm got set off for some reason. You can't just pull someone over that looks like a "bad" then you'd be profiling. You have an area you work in, and can get in alot of trouble if you leave that. Most cops dont even like to write tickets cause everyone wants to beat it in court. You think they wanna go to court all the time? Most have to do it on personal time. They are not detectives, they wait for calls to come in and they go to them.
They keep the peace.

peterisurhero 07-12-2007 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Razz1 (Post 1966433)
What !!!!!

How can a music ticket, AKA noise ticket be a moving violation?

You have the penal code. Look it up on line under Calif. Gove. and advise if I'm wrong.

maybe becuz he heard my music while i passed him? hahaha

peterisurhero 07-12-2007 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by #1Stunna (Post 1966929)
Peter you truely are my hero. I'm a cop here in Houston, and unless he has a machine that reads decibles (or whatever its called) that reads how loud the music was, you can always fight it. Here in Texas we cops don't care about loud ricers (rx8 NOT a ricer!!) or loud music, I couldn't really tell you what to do. All I can say is when you go to court, fight it. Your court day will be rescheduled and if that cop doesn't show up, the judge will throw out the ticket. Especially if its your first offense. And in the future, roll your damn windows up, you prob were listening to Prince really loud and deserved the ticket!!!!!! Or was it that stupid Hey Baby song???!!!

hahah thanks man:). i will make sure i try to nail him in court. (i hope he doesn't do that to me tho. if he shows up.) hahaah any advice on what i should argue about except the machine that reads the loudness of my system? i think i might show pictures of the car having a stock system:)

peterisurhero 07-12-2007 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by early 30's crisis (Post 1967053)
They have to do something while waiting for murderers, rapists and drug addicts to commit their act. Would you rather they congregate somewhere and polish off piles of donuts, or stay out on the streets where they are needed? Perhaps in a day he might write noise tickets, speeding tickets, find people with no insurance, no licenses and outstanding warrants... or maybe someday, find someone driving your car after they stole it.

Please remember they are catching all those murderers etc to keep us all safe. Is a crappy job, highly underpaid and very risky.. and sure, they have assholes. I think comments like yours might have a little something to do with it...?

haha yea i give them respect for what they do. but the in most cases, the only reason why the are cops is because they had nothing else to do. They are too damn stupid and wanted a job to feel superior than others. what else but a cop? hahah

no offense to any cops on this site. mostly #1. hahah im just trying to vent...:(

peterisurhero 07-12-2007 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Vasichko (Post 1967068)
I dont know what you could do, in Texas they probably wouldnt have don that with all the loud monster cammed Z06s we have running around.

I dont know.

I have fought a couple of tickets in the past and won. Then agian it is a benefit of working for a Fortune 500 company. For $5 a month I get legal representation from our legal department regardless of what it is. :hahano:

lol damn you!!! hahah i guess i'll just have to wait till after law school maybe some freinds will represent me then:) hahaha

peterisurhero 07-12-2007 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Trekk (Post 1967083)
Keef is an idiot.

I have alot of cops in my family and they spend a large amount of time domestic disputes and other crap, were people just want a moderator. They even spend a huge part of the day going to houses that the alarm got set off for some reason. You can't just pull someone over that looks like a "bad" then you'd be profiling. You have an area you work in, and can get in alot of trouble if you leave that. Most cops dont even like to write tickets cause everyone wants to beat it in court. You think they wanna go to court all the time? Most have to do it on personal time. They are not detectives, they wait for calls to come in and they go to them.
They keep the peace.

im sorry man, but its their job. if they dont like it, do somehting else. they have nothing better to do than give out damn tickets. i mean, give a fuckn warning. i even asked him NICELY, before i gave him the attitude, to please let me go. but htat cop was being arrogant and was not even listening to me. he didn't even give me eye contact. Thats wat got me pist.

early 30's crisis 07-12-2007 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by peterisurhero (Post 1967335)
haha yea i give them respect for what they do. but the in most cases, the only reason why the are cops is because they had nothing else to do. They are too damn stupid and wanted a job to feel superior than others. what else but a cop? hahah

no offense to any cops on this site. mostly #1. hahah im just trying to vent...:(


I'm sorry Peter I should have clarified... I wasnt talking to you :)
Honest I dont blame you for being bitter about it, sound violations? Sheesh.. I mean if you were up and down the same road for an hour revving and pounding the tunes, okay.. ;)

My comment was geared towards Keef's complete disrespect.
I wish you good luck in court, your ticket doesnt sound fair to me.

#1Stunna 07-12-2007 04:35 PM

OMG keef, why all the cop hate. You prob didn't read my post about Houston cops, and how they don't really care about loud music and car noises. I need no power or authority, I had lots more as a staff Sgt in the army. I'm in Houston too, call me bud, we can meet up and eat donuts all day long!!! I work downtown area. :D

#1Stunna 07-12-2007 04:38 PM

Oh and keef, if you ever get a ticket here in Houston, send me an IM. Ill be glad to dismiss it for you.

Ghadrack 07-12-2007 06:04 PM

Cop h8ter
 
Cop hate is as dumb as race hate, every person on this earth deserves the same respect you do until they prove that they don't. Just like any job out there, there are people who are good at it and those who aren't and everyone has had a bad day, you don't know what happened 30 minutes before you drove by. Anyhow.... back on topic.


My advice is that you don't fight a ticket unless you really got screwed and are 100% in the right. Unless you are a canonized saint, your odds of winning a "he said, she said" arguement against a police officer's judgement call are slim to absolute zero. The most likely outcome if your local laws and caselaw support office judgement calls on public disturbance fines (which most will) is going to be the cost of the ticket you got, plus the 100 to 150 dollar court costs.

My vote is to suck it up and call it a life lesson, or ammunition for some misplaced hate on the police and move on with your life, this is just going to add stress and give you cause for three or four more bad days.

Shini 07-12-2007 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by #1Stunna (Post 1967543)
OMG keef, why all the cop hate. You prob didn't read my post about Houston cops, and how they don't really care about loud music and car noises. I need no power or authority, I had lots more as a staff Sgt in the army. I'm in Houston too, call me bud, we can meet up and eat donuts all day long!!! I work downtown area. :D

same in dallas, the cops there are total bad asses, unless you're trying to set land speed records they normally leave you alone!

peterisurhero 07-12-2007 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by early 30's crisis (Post 1967358)
I'm sorry Peter I should have clarified... I wasnt talking to you :)
Honest I dont blame you for being bitter about it, sound violations? Sheesh.. I mean if you were up and down the same road for an hour revving and pounding the tunes, okay.. ;)

My comment was geared towards Keef's complete disrespect.
I wish you good luck in court, your ticket doesnt sound fair to me.

hahah no problem man:) thanks for the clarification tho. :)

peterisurhero 07-12-2007 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by #1Stunna (Post 1967549)
Oh and keef, if you ever get a ticket here in Houston, send me an IM. Ill be glad to dismiss it for you.

lol danggg you! im moving to houston RIGHT NOW! hahah

ey #1, i didn't mean to offend you:(. im juss sayin that cuz its the stereotype about cops. (NOT TRUE AT ALL TIMES)


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