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shallowater 03-17-2010 02:44 PM

high-pitch sound when starting engine, what can it be?
 
only happens at cold engine start up when temperature is below 40F. the high pitch sound comes from under the hood and would last 4-5 seconds then disappear. the 8 drives fine.

what can it be? thanks

Jedi54 03-17-2010 02:45 PM

secondary air pump going out.

shallowater 03-17-2010 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 3474915)
secondary air pump going out.

this has to be the fastest reply i have seen...:ylsuper:

can you share more details? e.g., what is this secondary air pump and where is located..?

how do i determine that it is indeed the cause? if so, do i have to replace it immediately or can i wait when it gets worse? can i replace it myself? i am not much a mechanic here...

Easy_E1 03-17-2010 02:51 PM

Have you checked your belts?

xun4gvn4everx 03-17-2010 02:52 PM

If it sounds kind of like an airplane engine, then it is normal

shallowater 03-17-2010 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by xun4gvn4everx (Post 3474928)
If it sounds kind of like an airplane engine, then it is normal

not sure what exactly you mean like airplane engine...airplane engine does not sound high-pitch to me...anyways, it is kind of like scratching metal surface...very fast.

Jedi54 03-17-2010 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by shallowater (Post 3474924)
this has to be the fastest reply i have seen...:ylsuper:

Jedi Powers my good man. Jedi Powers. :cool:

Where is the sound coming from? Do you ONLY hear it on start up?
Is it from the front - RIGHT side of the engine bay? (passenger side)

Easy_E1 lost an air pump in his RX8 a while back, maybe he could shed some light on this.

TeeFar 03-17-2010 02:57 PM

Mine has always done that when its cold, I thought it was normal. The noise lasts for a few seconds and goes away.

2tone 03-17-2010 02:58 PM

i have this, just thought it was normal. right when i start, it's a ... well, a high-pitched squeal. it lasts maybe 4-5 secs like op said, maybe 10 secs or so, i forget. but it goes away...when it goes away it fades out smoothly, like turning down volume or something (it doesn't just stop immediately - although the fade out only takes a second or two!).

i always just assumed something was warming up.

2tone 03-17-2010 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by TeeFar (Post 3474936)
Mine has always done that when its cold, I thought it was normal.

yes, i agree. i think it happens only, or mostly when it's cold out. but yeah, i thought/think it's normal. :uhh:

xun4gvn4everx 03-17-2010 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by shallowater (Post 3474931)
not sure what exactly you mean like airplane engine...airplane engine does not sound high-pitch to me...anyways, it is kind of like scratching metal surface...very fast.

I meant like an airplane jet engine. The high pitched noise it makes. Scratching metal sound sounds like it is not the "jet engine" sound that is normal.

shallowater 03-17-2010 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 3474933)
Jedi Powers my good man. Jedi Powers. :cool:

Where is the sound coming from? Do you ONLY hear it on start up?
Is it from the front - RIGHT side of the engine bay? (passenger side)

Easy_E1 lost an air pump in his RX8 a while back, maybe he could shed some light on this.

yes, i only hear it at start up. it is kind of hard for me to tell whether it is from right or left side. since the sound only lasts for 4-5 seconds, by the time i got out of the driver seat to check it out, it would be gone...maybe i will listen more carefully next time.

2tone 03-17-2010 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 3474933)
Jedi Powers my good man. Jedi Powers. :cool:

Where is the sound coming from? Do you ONLY hear it on start up?
Is it from the front - RIGHT side of the engine bay? (passenger side)

Easy_E1 lost an air pump in his RX8 a while back, maybe he could shed some light on this.

hey jedi! i'll have to listen next time and see if i can comment on where the sound is coming from. a few months back, at my last oil change, i was told i needed a new belt...but it was a dealership so i blew them off, ha ha.

xun4gvn4everx 03-17-2010 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by shallowater (Post 3474943)
yes, i only hear it at start up. it is kind of hard for me to tell whether it is from right or left side. since the sound only lasts for 4-5 seconds, by the time i got out of the driver seat to check it out, it would be gone...maybe i will listen more carefully next time.

Try having someone else start your car while you stand by the engine with the hood up and listen

Easy_E1 03-17-2010 03:01 PM

Air Pump is located next to the right side strut tower. Black squarish plate 5"x5" with a dome thing on top.
That's funny. Sorry.
Anyway if you open your hood when the car is cold in the morning and stand by the right front tire looking at the engine. Have someone start the car and listen for the sound. Should be quite evident if it is the air pump. or something else.

shallowater 03-17-2010 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by 2tone (Post 3474938)
i have this, just thought it was normal. right when i start, it's a ... well, a high-pitched squeal. it lasts maybe 4-5 secs like op said, maybe 10 secs or so, i forget. but it goes away...when it goes away it fades out smoothly, like turning down volume or something (it doesn't just stop immediately - although the fade out only takes a second or two!).

i always just assumed something was warming up.

yes, it is exactly like what you described... maybe it is normal then?
what year/mileage you have? mine is a 07 with 25K on it.

2tone 03-17-2010 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by shallowater (Post 3474950)
yes, it is exactly like what you described... maybe it is normal then?
what year/mileage you have? mine is a 07 with 25K on it.

ha ha, well, who knows. i don't want to say it's normal and then have something crap out on us! i wish i had one of those little usb flash video camera things!

mine is an '04, 59k. no clue as to how long i've been hearing that though, it always went away fairly quickly and was only at start-up, so i have always assumed she was just warming up, stretching her legs, etc. before take off!

shallowater 03-17-2010 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Easy_E1 (Post 3474949)
Air Pump is located next to the right side strut tower. Black squarish plate 5"x5" with a dome thing on top.
That's funny. Sorry.
Anyway if you open your hood when the car is cold in the morning and stand by the right front tire looking at the engine. Have someone start the car and listen for the sound. Should be quite evident if it is the air pump. or something else.

will do this next time...just thought i should seek some advice here first. it would be really dumb if i ask my friend to stop by and then the high-pitch sound does not come up...:banghead: , you know, when the weather is not so cold...

xun4gvn4everx 03-17-2010 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by 2tone (Post 3474956)
ha ha, well, who knows. i don't want to say it's normal and then have something crap out on us! i wish i had one of those little usb flash video camera things!

mine is an '04, 59k. no clue as to how long i've been hearing that though, it always went away fairly quickly and was only at start-up, so i have always assumed she was just warming up, stretching her legs, etc. before take off!

Yes, it is normal. I also had an '04 and it made the same "jet engine" sound (as I call it) and it does exactly as you stated.

Jedi54 03-17-2010 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Easy_E1 (Post 3474949)
Air Pump is located next to the right side strut tower. Black squarish plate 5"x5" with a dome thing on top.
That's funny. Sorry.
Anyway if you open your hood when the car is cold in the morning and stand by the right front tire looking at the engine. Have someone start the car and listen for the sound. Should be quite evident if it is the air pump. or something else.

^^^ listen to Easy, he speaketh the truth.

2tone 03-17-2010 03:09 PM

^ yeah i'll pay more attn too. glad you posted, b/c i should have paid more attn to it instead of blowing it off!!

for curiosity's sake, what does a bad air pump result in and what is cost to replace?

2tone 03-17-2010 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by xun4gvn4everx (Post 3474958)
Yes, it is normal. I also had an '04 and it made the same "jet engine" sound (as I call it) and it does exactly as you stated.

well that's good, at least we're not alone! i kinda like it, it is like a jet engine 'engage' kind of sound. :ylsuper:


is this thread the same thing?? the only difference for me is i don't remember it after driving...mine is only at start-up. maybe this is a different noise he's talking about though.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/high-pitch-noise-engine-83862/

xun4gvn4everx 03-17-2010 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by 2tone (Post 3474966)
well that's good, at least we're not alone! i kinda like it, it is like a jet engine 'engage' kind of sound. :ylsuper:

It is telling you the car is ready for take-off :p:

The Reverend 03-17-2010 03:15 PM

Don't forget to raise the landing gear O_O

xun4gvn4everx 03-17-2010 03:18 PM

And sit down and buckle up in an upright position with your tray tables up.


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