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Clavius 08-16-2006 03:03 PM

Headlight Restoration Kit? Huh!?
 
Alright brought my 8 in for her first Oil Change today and for 2 other problems. The first was my drivers side visor was broken and needed to be replaced, they had none in stock so one was ordered. The second was I had some "film" in my headlights, looked like technicolor waste on the inside of the housing.

Well when I was talking to the service rep I was hoping he was gonna tell me "and your headlights yeah we are just gonna replace them because of the film." nope what I heard was "and your headlights we ordered a headlight restoratoin kit since we dont have that in stock either." Now what the hell is a headlight restoration kit.. beyond the obvious but thing is I have never heard of this or such a thing. I did some research on my headlights on this forum so as to not be railroaded but this "restoration kit" is a definitive curveball. Anyone ever have this done to their headlights via Mazda?? Any help would be well helpful I'm just confused here since I though the headlights where a two peice unit that couldnt be taken apart without breaking anything.

Gomez 08-16-2006 08:07 PM

Sounds like Mazda have gotten jack of replacing headlights. Plan B is to send a kit to the dealers that allows them to service them on-site. Split, clean, reseal is my bet.

Fill us in when you find out what the restoration entails.

my10ae 08-16-2006 08:18 PM

Clavius:

What dealer did you bring your 8 too? Next time I'm in for an oil change, I'm gonna inquire about the replacement of my headlights also as I have the "technicolor" issue also.

SayNoToPistons 08-16-2006 08:19 PM

Headlight Restoration kit = usually fine sandpaper, compounds, and yeah thats about it... not really a kit.

tucker 08-16-2006 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
Headlight Restoration kit = usually fine sandpaper, compounds, and yeah thats about it... not really a kit.

yeah... that's probably what it is.. and maybe soap and water for lube when they're sanding it. I did that on an old mazda 929 once... worked like a charm!

NgoRX8 08-16-2006 09:03 PM

most of the problems people have with headlights is the haze and condensation on the inside... so this might not work.

Gomez 08-16-2006 09:05 PM

Yup, you boys are missing the point. This film is on the inside of the lenses.

Clavius 08-16-2006 10:40 PM

This is what I got.. should of posted this along with my orginal post but I was some what rushed at the time. Oh also it now looks worse on both sides whee!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...avius/Film.jpg

I hope its not just some soapy water and sandpaper grit b.s. maybe new seals along with it or sumthing. All I know is after this they better look close to brand new. ><!

SayNoToPistons 08-17-2006 01:00 AM


Originally Posted by NgoRX8
most of the problems people have with headlights is the haze and condensation on the inside... so this might not work.

only when you have leaking headlights. worn headlights with worn seals or fairly new headlights with faulty seals.

NgoRX8 08-17-2006 01:18 AM

yes, which is most of the problem people have. i would figure that the exterior damage is more caused by the environment than by something a dealer must fix.

Papapump51 08-17-2006 08:33 AM

I just got both my headlights replaced due to the same thing, and I also had some moisture in them so no problem they swapped them, also I am pretty cool with the service mgr and he said that if you notice Mazda took down that SB, it is not posted so they must have gotten beat up on the headlight ordeal.

zoom44 08-17-2006 12:08 PM

why did you not ask THEM what the restoration kit was and what they were going to do?

CosmosMpower 08-17-2006 12:21 PM

Take it into the dealer and get them replaced. I complained that mine had the same problem and they swapped em out no questions asked. Also make sure they are properly aligned before you leave, I had to take mine back to get that done and it was annoying.

Clavius 08-17-2006 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44
why did you not ask THEM what the restoration kit was and what they were going to do?

Because with them I'd get a 'round 'bout answer.. and from you guys I'd get the real answer. I'm starting to think its gonna be a sandpaper/cleaning solution mix. If it looks like crap afterwards trust me I'll be asking for new headlights. Still not sure how that odd film happened, I just noticed after we had a heatwave so I think that was part of how it happened. Well I'm just hoping by Saturday I get a call saying my stuff is in. My vacation is next week and if they have to have my car for a day or so I'm demanding a nice frigging rental! I think Enterpise had cadi's hehe

Nubo 08-17-2006 03:32 PM

If they give you a hard time, point out to them that film on the inside of the cover constitutes a safety hazard. It could scatter the light into oncoming drivers' eyes. The DOT specifications for beam cutoff are strict. If you're shining more light outside of that zone because of fogged lenses, that's illegal.

Clavius 08-17-2006 03:38 PM

If anything Nubo I think I'm getting less light out onto the road because of the film/haze.

ibfubar2000 08-17-2006 04:06 PM

Mazda Headlight Restoration Kit part number 0000-HL-5178. (sorry no pics to post) To summarize:

1.Remove the front Bumper from vehicle. Remove both headlight assemblies (be careful not to break the mounting clip, made of plastic if you break the clip you can not remount headlights, will need to buuy new mounting brackets as the clips are not available seperately, not warrantable for the clips either because they broke. part number for mounting bracket BKL3-65-7586 $85.00 each (need 2 per headlight)

2. remove light bulbs/sockets from both headlight assemslies.


3. mix the Headlight retoration solution (Liquid Glass) 3 diferent bottles of very thick liquid that gets mixed together.

4. pour the mixture into the lens, careful not to spill on outside of lens. swirl misture inside lens covering all of the lens, let set for 15 minutes. then swirl every 15 minutes for 2 hours to have even coating inside lens.

5.after film has set for 2 hours leave the lens out for 1 more hour for solution to harden (will harden like glass, ie Liqud glass)

6. replace headlight assemblies and front bumper back in place. if vehicle has HID headlights DO NOT TURN ON HEADLIGHTS FOR 24 HOURS or else the liquid will ignite and catch fire from ther heat (fire damage not covered by warranty).

I think this is probably what they were talk about. If you can find the bulletin for it you can read the details, I just summarized it to make it easier.
Bulletin TSB 03-125/06

Hope this helps!

NgoRX8 08-17-2006 04:12 PM

wow... then that would work. thanks robert

ibfubar2000 08-17-2006 04:17 PM

oh yeah I forgot step 7.

7. Ignore steps 1-6

LOL seriously though, I talked to the parts dept. and the techs here no such thiong as a "restoration kit" should just be a replacement lens, the "kit" might include bulbs if it is not a HID unit. but that is it no way possible to seperate lens, no way to get in lens to clean.

I guess I was too slow posting the first answer I was really hoping Clavius would have been on long enough to read it.

Clavius 08-17-2006 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by ibfubar2000
oh yeah I forgot step 7.

7. Ignore steps 1-6

LOL seriously though, I talked to the parts dept. and the techs here no such thiong as a "restoration kit" should just be a replacement lens, the "kit" might include bulbs if it is not a HID unit. but that is it no way possible to seperate lens, no way to get in lens to clean.

I guess I was too slow posting the first answer I was really hoping Clavius would have been on long enough to read it.

Grrr very funny lol.. I read it and was gonna respond then had to go back to make sure I read it right but you already responded. So pretty much no one has any idea what this "Restoration Kit" is.. hm think tomorrow durring my break I may stop by my service dept or call them up and ask what it is since I asked a "few friends" what it is and they had no clue.

NgoRX8 08-17-2006 04:28 PM

lol, darn u robert!

i wish someone could open up the headlight lenses. i wanna work on the headlights.

LiveToRev 08-17-2006 04:34 PM

Clavius, what year/production date is your 8?

Clavius 08-17-2006 04:37 PM

its a 04 with a build date of (took some time to find this ugh!) Oct 2003. I only have 33k miles on her now also.

DOMINION 08-18-2006 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Clavius
Alright brought my 8 in for her first Oil Change today and for 2 other problems. The first was my drivers side visor was broken and needed to be replaced, they had none in stock so one was ordered. The second was I had some "film" in my headlights, looked like technicolor waste on the inside of the housing.

Well when I was talking to the service rep I was hoping he was gonna tell me "and your headlights yeah we are just gonna replace them because of the film." nope what I heard was "and your headlights we ordered a headlight restoratoin kit since we dont have that in stock either." Now what the hell is a headlight restoration kit.. beyond the obvious but thing is I have never heard of this or such a thing. I did some research on my headlights on this forum so as to not be railroaded but this "restoration kit" is a definitive curveball. Anyone ever have this done to their headlights via Mazda?? Any help would be well helpful I'm just confused here since I though the headlights where a two peice unit that couldnt be taken apart without breaking anything.

Wow...

Clavius 08-22-2006 03:18 PM

Grrr....
 
Well so far its been close to a week (Tomorrow makes it offically a week ugh!) and no "headlight restoration kit". I went in today to possibly have my d.s. visor installed but had to schedule it for Thursday in the morning (yeah I dont get that takes less than 30min to do lol) and I asked about the "headlight restoration kit" and what it is since I posted about it and no one knows what it is.. and I noted I asked a few people who actually work for Mazda (otherside thanks for responding to that pm :) ).

Well he called around but couldnt find someone.. then he called someone else over.. but he wasnt the tech (I guess they give them number lol "Your 30 right...?" "No I'm 28 man..") and once they figured out who the Tech was.. you guessed it.. he wasnt in. I'm at a complete loss right now, my Evo-R eyelids are coming in possibly by tomorrow and I really wanted to put them on :(

I swear if they tell me on Thursday that "Oh the headlight restoration kit isnt for your vehicle sorry he didnt know what he was doing." I think I might flip.. and go off about Mulligan Gate. grrr... I'm really annoyed now since this dealership hasnt heard about this upcoming recall and called this board silly in few words or less.


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